New here, and please tell me I didn't waste $10

Sock Eating Golden · 08-13-10, 05:21 AM

Hi all. First I've really enjoyed lurking on this board. I played Wolfpack years ago and have been looking for a Subsim to play now. SH3 peaked my interest and I figured since the game is 5 years old and my Netbook is only 1 year old (and meets the requirements) that it would run no problem. Wrong. I can't get past the "Can not initialiize 3D engine" disclaimer.

Is it possible to run SH3 on a netbook?
Is there any Subsim that can?

Thanks for you help.

Nick

Herr-Berbunch · 08-13-10, 05:29 AM

Are you running Win 7, and what is your screen refresh rate?

Set that to 60 Hz and you should, I think, be fine.

Also make sure you're patched correctly (1.4b even though is says 1.3)

Let us know how you get on.

Sock Eating Golden · 08-13-10, 05:32 AM

I'm running Win XP, refresh rate is at 60hz. Working on the patch. We'll see how it goes. Thanks for the quick response.

Sock Eating Golden · 08-13-10, 06:04 AM

I checked the version on the .exe file and I'm already running v1.4.0.1. so that explains my problems installing the patch. But I still can't load the game.

Jimbuna · 08-13-10, 07:51 AM

What are your machine specs?

Sock Eating Golden · 08-13-10, 08:32 AM

Win XP
1.6 Ghz Intel Atom
1Gb ram
DirectX 9 Installed
Video Mem 128 Mb (Shared)
Mobile Intel 945 Express Chipset Family
PS1.1 Installed

Thanks again for all your help!

Herr-Berbunch · 08-13-10, 08:38 AM

I'm not 100% sure, but SH3 needs to run at a certain resolution 1280x768 IIRC, if you can't display that on a small netbook's screen then I doubt it'll work. Could you connect to external monitor that is capable of that res and retry?

Edit: standard resolution for SH3 is 1024x768, duh! There is a res fix to take it up to 1280x768. I think just about all netbooks are 1024x768 but still try external monitor, you never know!

Arctic wolf · 08-13-10, 09:10 AM

Welcome aboard Sock Eating Golden!

I'm afraid I have bad news for you. Netbooks aren't usually meant for gaming. They lack the graphical juice required to run games. That's usually because of a non existent dedicated gpu (graphics processing unit). In order to play failry recent - 2005 onwards - games properly you need at least a low end dedicated graphics card. The built in Intel Chipset is just not meant for gaming. Although the more recent ones come with 512 mb dedicated memory onboard to give some extra power, it's usually only enough to play ancient games at lowest settings. Yet you might experience lags and abysmal frame rates.

Your 128 mb shared memory is not adequate to play games of the likes of SH3. Plus, the Intel Atom processor lacks the processing power of more conventional mobile processors. My sis just got a Dell netbook with exactly similar specs to your netbook and she can't even run Microsoft Office 2010 - not enough memory!.

I believe the answer is no. You won't be able to run SH3 on your netbook.

Just my 2 cents.

Mittelwaechter · 08-13-10, 09:14 AM

DX9c installed on XP?

Post your DxDiag and we'll see further.

START -> run -> dxdiag

Work through tabs and run all tests.

Save results and post here.

Gerald · 08-13-10, 09:37 AM

Artic Wolf says that it will not work and run the SH3,and I agree, but anyway I hope that there are other things that attract

Arctic wolf · 08-13-10, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendor

but anyway I hope that there are other things that attract

I hope so too mate. I can only imagine how cool it would be to be comfortably lying on your bed with the lil netbook on your chest as you navigate your boat through a violent storm.

That's the first thought i had when i saw my sis' netbook. Best of luck!

Gerald · 08-13-10, 10:35 AM

or this

Herr-Berbunch · 08-13-10, 10:56 AM

Vendor, that's just cruel showing shots that he'll (probably) never be able to recreate until alot of money spent!

Mittelwaechter · 08-13-10, 11:01 AM

Who says no 3D games run on netbooks?

It depends on the netbook hardware and software.

http://reviews.cnet.com/2300-3121_7-...s=0&o=10002002

Again - a DxDiag protocol shows your hardware components and your installed software (OS, drivers and codeces).

If the 3D tests fail, your onboard graphic is probably not capable to run the game.

Gerald · 08-13-10, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Vendor, that's just cruel showing shots that he'll (probably) never be able to recreate until alot of money spent!

to find a way to have the SH3,on a computer, it need not be a notebook,there are often other opportunities,as you know.

08-13-10, 05:21 AM	#1
Sock Eating Golden Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 5 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	New here, and please tell me I didn't waste $10 (SH3 on Netbook?) Hi all. First I've really enjoyed lurking on this board. I played Wolfpack years ago and have been looking for a Subsim to play now. SH3 peaked my interest and I figured since the game is 5 years old and my Netbook is only 1 year old (and meets the requirements) that it would run no problem. Wrong. I can't get past the "Can not initialiize 3D engine" disclaimer. Is it possible to run SH3 on a netbook? Is there any Subsim that can? Thanks for you help. Nick Last edited by Sock Eating Golden; 08-13-10 at 06:19 AM.

08-13-10, 05:29 AM	#2
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Are you running Win 7, and what is your screen refresh rate? Set that to 60 Hz and you should, I think, be fine. Also make sure you're patched correctly (1.4b even though is says 1.3) Let us know how you get on. __________________

08-13-10, 07:51 AM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,481 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	What are your machine specs? __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

08-13-10, 08:38 AM	#7
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	I'm not 100% sure, but SH3 needs to run at a certain resolution 1280x768 IIRC, if you can't display that on a small netbook's screen then I doubt it'll work. Could you connect to external monitor that is capable of that res and retry? Edit: standard resolution for SH3 is 1024x768, duh! There is a res fix to take it up to 1280x768. I think just about all netbooks are 1024x768 but still try external monitor, you never know! __________________

08-13-10, 09:10 AM	#8
Arctic wolf A-ganger Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Under the Iceberg Posts: 71 Downloads: 107 Uploads: 0	Welcome aboard Sock Eating Golden! I'm afraid I have bad news for you. Netbooks aren't usually meant for gaming. They lack the graphical juice required to run games. That's usually because of a non existent dedicated gpu (graphics processing unit). In order to play failry recent - 2005 onwards - games properly you need at least a low end dedicated graphics card. The built in Intel Chipset is just not meant for gaming. Although the more recent ones come with 512 mb dedicated memory onboard to give some extra power, it's usually only enough to play ancient games at lowest settings. Yet you might experience lags and abysmal frame rates. Your 128 mb shared memory is not adequate to play games of the likes of SH3. Plus, the Intel Atom processor lacks the processing power of more conventional mobile processors. My sis just got a Dell netbook with exactly similar specs to your netbook and she can't even run Microsoft Office 2010 - not enough memory!. I believe the answer is no. You won't be able to run SH3 on your netbook. Just my 2 cents. __________________ Damn the torpedoes, Full speed ahead!

08-13-10, 05:32 AM	#3
Sock Eating Golden Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 5 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'm running Win XP, refresh rate is at 60hz. Working on the patch. We'll see how it goes. Thanks for the quick response.

08-13-10, 06:04 AM	#4
Sock Eating Golden Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 5 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I checked the version on the .exe file and I'm already running v1.4.0.1. so that explains my problems installing the patch. But I still can't load the game.

08-13-10, 08:32 AM	#6
Sock Eating Golden Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 5 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Win XP 1.6 Ghz Intel Atom 1Gb ram DirectX 9 Installed Video Mem 128 Mb (Shared) Mobile Intel 945 Express Chipset Family PS1.1 Installed Thanks again for all your help!

08-13-10, 09:14 AM	#9
Mittelwaechter The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,304 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	DX9c installed on XP? Post your DxDiag and we'll see further. START -> run -> dxdiag Work through tabs and run all tests. Save results and post here. __________________ 10 happy wolves rear 90 blinded, ensnared sheep. 90 happy sheep banish the wolves. Arrest the 1% - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ6hg1oNeGE

08-13-10, 09:37 AM	#10
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Welcome Aboard! Artic Wolf says that it will not work and run the SH3,and I agree, but anyway I hope that there are other things that attract __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

08-13-10, 10:35 AM	#12
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	something like this ... or this __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

08-13-10, 10:56 AM	#13
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Vendor, that's just cruel showing shots that he'll (probably) never be able to recreate until alot of money spent! __________________

08-13-10, 11:01 AM	#14
Mittelwaechter The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,304 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Who says no 3D games run on netbooks? It depends on the netbook hardware and software. http://reviews.cnet.com/2300-3121_7-...s=0&o=10002002 Again - a DxDiag protocol shows your hardware components and your installed software (OS, drivers and codeces). If the 3D tests fail, your onboard graphic is probably not capable to run the game. __________________ 10 happy wolves rear 90 blinded, ensnared sheep. 90 happy sheep banish the wolves. Arrest the 1% - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ6hg1oNeGE