[REL] Normals Tool for SH5 Alpha

06-28-10, 09:16 PM

It's an Alpha Tool for createing the Normals texture for SH5.
I know it needs some work but I need feedback to adjust things.
You need no graphics program to use this.
It is a stand alone program based on Nvidia Texture Tools Source code.

Sean updated some code not used in this version but I'm on it.

I know that the 'faces' need reversed yet.
I also know that the matrixes codeing I used may be off some.

However, test what is here and give me feedback to improve.

http://www.mediafire.com/?1mttziynlky

SteelViking · 06-28-10, 09:27 PM

Hey cool. I have been using GIMP to do all my _N.dds editing/creating. I will try this out and see how it compares.

06-28-10, 09:36 PM

I'm sure it's reversed in a way at this point.
As it's based on the SH4 version I have.
It's also older Code which Sean has adjusted.
(Sean by the way does the Nvidia Texture Tools stuff)
Future adjustments will be:

Updated code from Nvidia,
(Sean)
selectable SH4-SH5 Normals,
(Me)
Preview Screen of Normals output,
(Me)
Adjustments to output before saveing,
(Whatever is needed, me)
Save as feature and do not overwrite!
(Cause I was lazy to start with? I need to fix this!)

TheBeast · 06-29-10, 01:25 PM

First I would like to that you for making this tool.

Would it be possible to add some kind of slider control using the current setting as max and the slider control can reduce the effect by as much as 90% of what it currently does now?

Here is a skin I am working on using the GWX Normalizer to generate the Bump Maps.

Currnetly it is a little extreme but kind of matchs the effect of this skin.

G.I.M.P. generated Bump Map + Gaussian Blur(H=0.5, V=0.6).

Even if I edit the Normalized image and add the same Gaussian Blur effect(H=0.5, V=0.6), the GWX barely smooths out at all.

reaper7 · 06-29-10, 01:40 PM

Nice. Looking good

(In between the two would be spot on

)

06-29-10, 05:20 PM

@TheBeast,

Yes, several Sliders are being added to adjust several areas.
The adjustments will then be viewable in the preview window.

The source code used was version 2.0.3.0
It's up to 2.0.8.0 now.
Lots of improvements in the latest release.

TheBeast · 06-29-10, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer

@TheBeast,

Yes, several Sliders are being added to adjust several areas.
The adjustments will then be viewable in the preview window.

The source code used was version 2.0.3.0
It's up to 2.0.8.0 now.
Lots of improvements in the latest release.

I thought as much but had to ask.

This is a very good graphics modding tool. Specially for making Skins. I don't know how much it is need for other area's as I haven't delved into any else but exterior skins as yet.

Definately on my list to keep track of.

Thanks!

NOTE: I did notice one possible problem. The filename for the new DDS does not match the original name + N01 it is clipping half of the name. i.e. Source = Uboat7_structure.dds Output GWX = Uboat7c_N01.dds

06-29-10, 05:47 PM

Good spotting on the name problem.
I'll correct that.
You'll also have the option to 'Save as'
so you could name it whatever you want.

reaper7 · 06-29-10, 05:48 PM

Cheers Privateer for taking the time to bring the community the tools to bring out the best hidden within SH5

.

Just found out how to create bump maps in Photoshop, Pretty easy too

.

TheBeast · 06-30-10, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reaper7

Cheers Privateer for taking the time to bring the community the tools to bring out the best hidden within SH5

.

Just found out how to create bump maps in Photoshop, Pretty easy too

.

I have Photo Shop Elements 5.0 and I couldn't find it in that version.

reaper7 · 06-30-10, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBeast

I have Photo Shop Elements 5.0 and I couldn't find it in that version.

There isn't actually a bump map filter or anything like that, its actually a technique that generates it.

Here is the link to the Technique that I found and used. Effect is totally user changeable (A lot of control)

http://www.hexluv.com/2008/09/17/how...photoshop-cs3/

Should work with elements I think it has that filter in it.

TheBeast · 06-30-10, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reaper7

There isn't actually a bump map filter or anything like that, its actually a technique that generates it.

Here is the link to the Technique that I found and used. Effect is totally user changeable (A lot of control)

http://www.hexluv.com/2008/09/17/how...photoshop-cs3/

Should work with elements I think it has that filter in it.

I think I will stick with GIMP or GWX Normalizer.

06-30-10, 07:05 PM

@reaper7,

There is a PhotoShop plug-in to do Normals.
It's not to bad but lacks many new features that the Source Code I'm working with has.

Why the Source Code is updated and the Plug-In is not yet?
Is anybodys guess.

The compression routines are greatly improved in the Source Code.
And beats the Plug-In like a red-headed StepChild!

I'll include a standard image converter in the next release,
that will fix the compression problems I've heard about the PhotoShop Plug-In.

06-28-10, 09:16 PM	#1
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	[REL] Normals Tool for SH5 Alpha It's an Alpha Tool for createing the Normals texture for SH5. I know it needs some work but I need feedback to adjust things. You need no graphics program to use this. It is a stand alone program based on Nvidia Texture Tools Source code. Sean updated some code not used in this version but I'm on it. I know that the 'faces' need reversed yet. I also know that the matrixes codeing I used may be off some. However, test what is here and give me feedback to improve. http://www.mediafire.com/?1mttziynlky

06-28-10, 09:27 PM	#2
SteelViking The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: U.S.A.-East Coast Posts: 1,587 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 4	Hey cool. I have been using GIMP to do all my _N.dds editing/creating. I will try this out and see how it compares. __________________ He sank 198,650 tons....who you ask?....Erich Topp, that's who!

06-28-10, 09:36 PM	#3
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I'm sure it's reversed in a way at this point. As it's based on the SH4 version I have. It's also older Code which Sean has adjusted. (Sean by the way does the Nvidia Texture Tools stuff) Future adjustments will be: Updated code from Nvidia, (Sean) selectable SH4-SH5 Normals, (Me) Preview Screen of Normals output, (Me) Adjustments to output before saveing, (Whatever is needed, me) Save as feature and do not overwrite! (Cause I was lazy to start with? I need to fix this!) Last edited by Madox58; 06-28-10 at 09:46 PM.

06-29-10, 01:25 PM	#4
TheBeast The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Lynnwood, WA Posts: 1,533 Downloads: 886 Uploads: 23	First I would like to that you for making this tool. Would it be possible to add some kind of slider control using the current setting as max and the slider control can reduce the effect by as much as 90% of what it currently does now? Here is a skin I am working on using the GWX Normalizer to generate the Bump Maps. Currnetly it is a little extreme but kind of matchs the effect of this skin. G.I.M.P. generated Bump Map + Gaussian Blur(H=0.5, V=0.6). Even if I edit the Normalized image and add the same Gaussian Blur effect(H=0.5, V=0.6), the GWX barely smooths out at all. __________________ Fear me! I am, TheBeastBelow SHIV-MediaFire \| SHV-MediaFire Last edited by TheBeast; 06-29-10 at 02:45 PM. Reason: Added request for slider control.

06-29-10, 01:40 PM	#5
reaper7 sim2reality Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: AM 82 Posts: 2,280 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 30	Nice. Looking good (In between the two would be spot on )

06-29-10, 05:20 PM	#6
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	@TheBeast, Yes, several Sliders are being added to adjust several areas. The adjustments will then be viewable in the preview window. The source code used was version 2.0.3.0 It's up to 2.0.8.0 now. Lots of improvements in the latest release.

06-29-10, 05:47 PM	#8
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Good spotting on the name problem. I'll correct that. You'll also have the option to 'Save as' so you could name it whatever you want.

06-29-10, 05:48 PM	#9
reaper7 sim2reality Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: AM 82 Posts: 2,280 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 30	Cheers Privateer for taking the time to bring the community the tools to bring out the best hidden within SH5 . Just found out how to create bump maps in Photoshop, Pretty easy too .

06-30-10, 07:05 PM	#13
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	@reaper7, There is a PhotoShop plug-in to do Normals. It's not to bad but lacks many new features that the Source Code I'm working with has. Why the Source Code is updated and the Plug-In is not yet? Is anybodys guess. The compression routines are greatly improved in the Source Code. And beats the Plug-In like a red-headed StepChild! I'll include a standard image converter in the next release, that will fix the compression problems I've heard about the PhotoShop Plug-In.