SH3Gen and Windows 7

rudewarrior · 11-01-09, 11:00 AM

Hi,

Is anyone out there running SH3Gen with Windows 7 successfully. I can't seem to make it run, and I can't figure out what the issue is. It opens, but after I pick the save game, the "generate" button remains greyed out, and I can't press it in order to run the program.

Any help?

Pisces · 11-01-09, 06:26 PM

I don't know if this is the cure but I suspect that Sh3Gen tries to make files and folders inside it's own folderstructure inside c:\Program Files\Sh3Gen. But Vista and Windows 7 doesn't like it if programs do that.

Try to install it somewhere else and see if it works then.

rudewarrior · 11-01-09, 06:59 PM

Thanx for the idea, but that is not it. I have it installed under my personal folder. I also tried running it as an administrator b/c of that whole altering files issue, but that doesn't work either.

Thanx for the try, tho.

bsalyers · 11-12-09, 12:16 PM

I am running Windows 7 and have exactly the same issue. I tried the same things, running as administrator, compatibility-mode; no love. Has anyone else had any luck?

irish1958 · 11-12-09, 01:24 PM

I can't either. I PM the author without response re windows7.

FIREWALL · 11-12-09, 01:48 PM

With Win7 as with Vista you can partition on the fly and reinstall XP.

Sadly everything works on XP when it comes to SH-3 and Mods/Addons.

rudewarrior · 11-12-09, 02:43 PM

Unless the author responds, I don't think there is much merit to using the mod at this point. I like it, but I'm guessing it hasn't been maintained in a while. It was definitely a cool add-on, but I could do without the Icebergs that get plotted in the English Channel. Oh well, eventually all mods die...

Pisces · 11-12-09, 08:01 PM

Well, with Windows 7 you can use Virtual XP mode to run applications (through a virtual environment) that do not work in plain W7. I haven't seriously tried it yet so I can't help further. And it depends on your CPU (does it support virtualization technology), and edition of 7 if you can actually run it. But this link should point in the right direction:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/vir.../download.aspx

Talyllyn · 11-13-09, 08:15 PM

The virtual XP patch only works for the versions above the Home Premium unfortunately.

Pisces · 11-15-09, 07:29 PM

Yeah, that's what I meant with "edition of 7". But according to this wiki page ("I" note under the compatibility table) you can sort of bypass this limitation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows..._PC#endnote_I3

Though I do not understand how they manage to get it to install XP Sp3 as a virtual machine in Virtual PC with one of the lesser versions of 7. Maybe you could stubbornly try to download the files for the Professional version and install it anyway. Virtual PC 2007 wasn't supposed to work on my Vista Home Premium either, but it did. It just gave a meaningless 'thou shall not install' warning message when I installed it. The virtual machines didn't care it was a lesser edition of Vista.

irish1958 · 11-18-09, 08:15 AM

I checked my install of windows7 and found that I had Net Framework 3.5.1 (sp1) on my computer and I did not have NF 1 and 2. The specs for SH3Gen require NF 2.
When I checked at the Microsoft web site, there was a thread that stated that NF 2 needed to be uninstalled before installing NF 3.5
Is this the reason that SH3Gen won't work on windows7?
If so, does anyone know if it is safe to install NF 2 on windows7?
Has anybody been able to run sh3Gen on windows7?
If one installs virtual PC as Pisces suggests, is it safe to also install net framework 2 as it is not included with the virtualPC install?

Pisces · 11-19-09, 12:22 PM

A virtual pc can be considered completely seperate from the os/machine that it runs from (complete with BIOS startup). Things you install inside the OS of the virtual machine can't corrupt/disrupt the host OS. Unless there is still a serious bug, but Virtual PC 2007 has stood the test of time by now. Virtual PC for Windows 7 I don't know yet. Or possibly a virus/worm spreads via the simulated network connection from the virtual machine (if you have it enabled) into your lan to your host pc. Or through sharing the host-pc windows-folder. But that is a matter of keeping your systems updated and clean and secure. (theoretically you should install all updates and a virusscanner/firewall if you use it to go on the internet, but it does put extra strain on the system)

I've installed and run dozens of virtual machines (some times 4 at once) over the past months and I have never seen a hickup in my host OS because of them.

PS. It's probably obvious, but don't use a virtual PC when you still have the game running in the background.

GlobalExplorer · 11-28-09, 03:43 PM

Sorry guys, but there isn't much I can do for you since I don't have Windows 7, and plan to stick with XP for quite some time. Sure someone can drop me a mail if he wants the sourcecode. But I don't want to see it uploaded to the web.

slipper · 07-21-10, 06:19 PM

Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone has managed to get SH3Gen running in Win7 yet?
Just coming back to SH3 after a while a way and i miss this great little program.

If not has there been an alternative made somewhere?

Thanks for any replies

regards

slipper

irish1958 · 07-21-10, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slipper

Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone has managed to get SH3Gen running in Win7 yet?
Just coming back to SH3 after a while a way and i miss this great little program.

If not has there been an alternative made somewhere?

Thanks for any replies

regards

slipper

Not that I know of
and Not that I know of

I really miss the program as I used it with every patrol when I had XP.

11-01-09, 11:00 AM	#1
rudewarrior Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Middlebury, VT, USA Posts: 378 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 2	SH3Gen and Windows 7 Hi, Is anyone out there running SH3Gen with Windows 7 successfully. I can't seem to make it run, and I can't figure out what the issue is. It opens, but after I pick the save game, the "generate" button remains greyed out, and I can't press it in order to run the program. Any help?

11-01-09, 06:26 PM	#2
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,904 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	I don't know if this is the cure but I suspect that Sh3Gen tries to make files and folders inside it's own folderstructure inside c:\Program Files\Sh3Gen. But Vista and Windows 7 doesn't like it if programs do that. Try to install it somewhere else and see if it works then. __________________ My site downloads: https://ricojansen.nl/downloads

11-12-09, 12:16 PM	#4
bsalyers Sparky Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: North Hollywood, CA Posts: 152 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Same Issue I am running Windows 7 and have exactly the same issue. I tried the same things, running as administrator, compatibility-mode; no love. Has anyone else had any luck? __________________ I had a life back in the Real World... before I discovered SubSims.

11-12-09, 01:24 PM	#5
irish1958 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 3,250 Downloads: 320 Uploads: 11	I can't either. I PM the author without response re windows7. __________________ Irish1958

11-12-09, 01:48 PM	#6
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	With Win7 as with Vista you can partition on the fly and reinstall XP. Sadly everything works on XP when it comes to SH-3 and Mods/Addons. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

11-01-09, 06:59 PM	#3
rudewarrior Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Middlebury, VT, USA Posts: 378 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 2	Thanx for the idea, but that is not it. I have it installed under my personal folder. I also tried running it as an administrator b/c of that whole altering files issue, but that doesn't work either. Thanx for the try, tho.

11-12-09, 02:43 PM	#7
rudewarrior Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Middlebury, VT, USA Posts: 378 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 2	Unless the author responds, I don't think there is much merit to using the mod at this point. I like it, but I'm guessing it hasn't been maintained in a while. It was definitely a cool add-on, but I could do without the Icebergs that get plotted in the English Channel. Oh well, eventually all mods die...

11-12-09, 08:01 PM	#8
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,904 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	Well, with Windows 7 you can use Virtual XP mode to run applications (through a virtual environment) that do not work in plain W7. I haven't seriously tried it yet so I can't help further. And it depends on your CPU (does it support virtualization technology), and edition of 7 if you can actually run it. But this link should point in the right direction: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/vir.../download.aspx __________________ My site downloads: https://ricojansen.nl/downloads

11-13-09, 08:15 PM	#9
Talyllyn Watch Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Wirral, UK Posts: 19 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	Virtual XP The virtual XP patch only works for the versions above the Home Premium unfortunately.

11-15-09, 07:29 PM	#10
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,904 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	Yeah, that's what I meant with "edition of 7". But according to this wiki page ("I" note under the compatibility table) you can sort of bypass this limitation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows..._PC#endnote_I3 Though I do not understand how they manage to get it to install XP Sp3 as a virtual machine in Virtual PC with one of the lesser versions of 7. Maybe you could stubbornly try to download the files for the Professional version and install it anyway. Virtual PC 2007 wasn't supposed to work on my Vista Home Premium either, but it did. It just gave a meaningless 'thou shall not install' warning message when I installed it. The virtual machines didn't care it was a lesser edition of Vista. __________________ My site downloads: https://ricojansen.nl/downloads

11-18-09, 08:15 AM	#11
irish1958 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 3,250 Downloads: 320 Uploads: 11	I checked my install of windows7 and found that I had Net Framework 3.5.1 (sp1) on my computer and I did not have NF 1 and 2. The specs for SH3Gen require NF 2. When I checked at the Microsoft web site, there was a thread that stated that NF 2 needed to be uninstalled before installing NF 3.5 Is this the reason that SH3Gen won't work on windows7? If so, does anyone know if it is safe to install NF 2 on windows7? Has anybody been able to run sh3Gen on windows7? If one installs virtual PC as Pisces suggests, is it safe to also install net framework 2 as it is not included with the virtualPC install? __________________ Irish1958 Last edited by irish1958; 11-18-09 at 08:16 AM. Reason: spelling correction

11-19-09, 12:22 PM	#12
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,904 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	A virtual pc can be considered completely seperate from the os/machine that it runs from (complete with BIOS startup). Things you install inside the OS of the virtual machine can't corrupt/disrupt the host OS. Unless there is still a serious bug, but Virtual PC 2007 has stood the test of time by now. Virtual PC for Windows 7 I don't know yet. Or possibly a virus/worm spreads via the simulated network connection from the virtual machine (if you have it enabled) into your lan to your host pc. Or through sharing the host-pc windows-folder. But that is a matter of keeping your systems updated and clean and secure. (theoretically you should install all updates and a virusscanner/firewall if you use it to go on the internet, but it does put extra strain on the system) I've installed and run dozens of virtual machines (some times 4 at once) over the past months and I have never seen a hickup in my host OS because of them. PS. It's probably obvious, but don't use a virtual PC when you still have the game running in the background. __________________ My site downloads: https://ricojansen.nl/downloads Last edited by Pisces; 11-19-09 at 12:37 PM.

11-28-09, 03:43 PM	#13
GlobalExplorer Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Berlin Posts: 2,015 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	Sorry guys, but there isn't much I can do for you since I don't have Windows 7, and plan to stick with XP for quite some time. Sure someone can drop me a mail if he wants the sourcecode. But I don't want to see it uploaded to the web. __________________

07-21-10, 06:19 PM	#14
slipper Navy Dude Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 174 Downloads: 385 Uploads: 0	Hi all, I was wondering if anyone has managed to get SH3Gen running in Win7 yet? Just coming back to SH3 after a while a way and i miss this great little program. If not has there been an alternative made somewhere? Thanks for any replies regards slipper