Harrier Pilot Does The Martin Baker Fly By

GoldenRivet · 06-07-10, 01:54 AM

http://www.kdvr.com/news/nationworld...9697.htmlstory

guess it started getting a little warm in the cockpit.

video starts with a test pattern for a few seconds... just wait for it.

XabbaRus · 06-07-10, 02:44 AM

That was surreal. Almost zero-zero though.

Wonder when that happened?

Skybird · 06-07-10, 03:40 AM

The question now is: what reason did he have to not trust his ejection seat?

Or did he forget to fasten the seat-belts before take-off?

That would make him the fastest knot-maker on the planet.

HunterICX · 06-07-10, 03:42 AM

That's a nasty smack he made there, came in a bit too fast I figure.

HunterICX

GoldenRivet · 06-07-10, 04:45 AM

Oddly enough I thought the opposite- that his approach was too slow.

I think the accident caught him off guard, as if he knew it was going to be a really hard landing, but didn't expect it to result in substantial damage.

From a pilots perspective, I would have made the choice to ride a gear collapse - which in this case he probably assumed was the problem - all the way to the stopping point as opposed to riding an ejection seat out.

The event that changed his mind and caused him to pull the loud handle was no doubt the 8-10 foot tall flames licking the canopy glass.

Then the situation switches gears and you have to choose between exiting a burning wreck or just punching out and letting the fire fighters worry about it.

His problems started on final approach... His jet looked like it was on the ass end of the power curve which is not a good place to be on approach to landing. To top it off this looked like a traditional approach to landing as opposed to a VTOL with which I'm sure he was more accustomed.

HunterICX · 06-07-10, 05:10 AM

Here's the story:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6301835.ece

He had a engine failure and had to do a emergency landing.
reason he probally stayed in his cockpit for that long was to make sure he didn't collide with the passenger aircraft.

also carrying external fuel tanks and live laser guided bombs....pfew

HunterICX

Jimbuna · 06-07-10, 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HunterICX

Here's the story:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6301835.ece

He had a engine failure and had to do a emergency landing.
reason he probally stayed in his cockpit for that long was to make sure he didn't collide with the passenger aircraft.

also carrying external fuel tanks and live laser guided bombs....pfew

HunterICX

All the more reason to get out pronto!

ajrimmer42 · 06-07-10, 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HunterICX

reason he probally stayed in his cockpit for that long was to make sure he didn't collide with the passenger aircraft.

That's what I was thinking, plus I guess it's always preferable to walk away from something like that than to eject, I believe ejecting hurts like buggery, spinal compression and all that...

GoldenRivet · 06-07-10, 08:11 AM

"suffered a back injury in the accident"

Jesus... probably upon the touchdown, which means he punched out with an injured back.

if not upon touchdown, then i suppose they are referring to the spinal compression.

Oberon · 06-07-10, 08:16 AM

Nicely done that man, very professional and heroic.

Harrier doesn't look like it'll be a total write-off either.
At least the Harrier engines are more reliable now than they were to begin with. I recall one pilot who suffered an engine cut out whilst flying over West Germany, he began to lose altitude quite dramatically and so banged out...and as he floated down suddenly the Harriers engine starts up, roars into life and the Harrier sets off towards the GDR by itself.
Panic sets in, and Luftwaffe F-104s take off but just can't get it, eventually a BAe Lightning shot it down near the GDR border.

Good book

:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cold-War-Hot.../dp/1844155757

AVGWarhawk · 06-07-10, 08:18 AM

WOW...he wanted to ride it out or he was just in utter shock the aircraft was falling to pieces around him.

Schroeder · 06-07-10, 08:26 AM

@Oberon

I'm pretty sure that thing IS a 100% write off.

The airframe is definitely unusable and I'm pretty sure the electronics, engine, and cockpit instruments didn't like the crash, the fire and the water (or whatever stuff they used to extinguish the flames) all too much either.

@Warhawk

I'm with GR on that one, he didn't eject until the flames reached the canopy. I'm sure he didn't want to get fried or blown to pieces.

Dowly · 06-07-10, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schroeder

I'm with GR on that one, he didn't eject until the flames reached the canopy. I'm sure he didn't want to get fried or blown to pieces.

Yes, this what I think too. He ejects just second or so after we see the body of flames reach the side of the canopy.

SteamWake · 06-07-10, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon

Nicely done that man, very professional and heroic.

I'm not sure but I dont believe that belly smacking and setting your aircraft on fire would be considered professional.

Dowly · 06-07-10, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteamWake

I'm not sure but I dont believe that belly smacking and setting your aircraft on fire would be considered professional.

Well, he had an engine failure after all.

06-07-10, 01:54 AM	#1
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Harrier Pilot Does The Martin Baker Fly By http://www.kdvr.com/news/nationworld...9697.htmlstory guess it started getting a little warm in the cockpit. video starts with a test pattern for a few seconds... just wait for it. __________________

06-07-10, 02:44 AM	#2
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	That was surreal. Almost zero-zero though. Wonder when that happened? __________________

06-07-10, 03:40 AM	#3
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The question now is: what reason did he have to not trust his ejection seat? Or did he forget to fasten the seat-belts before take-off? That would make him the fastest knot-maker on the planet. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

06-07-10, 03:42 AM	#4
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	That's a nasty smack he made there, came in a bit too fast I figure. HunterICX __________________

06-07-10, 04:45 AM	#5
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Oddly enough I thought the opposite- that his approach was too slow. I think the accident caught him off guard, as if he knew it was going to be a really hard landing, but didn't expect it to result in substantial damage. From a pilots perspective, I would have made the choice to ride a gear collapse - which in this case he probably assumed was the problem - all the way to the stopping point as opposed to riding an ejection seat out. The event that changed his mind and caused him to pull the loud handle was no doubt the 8-10 foot tall flames licking the canopy glass. Then the situation switches gears and you have to choose between exiting a burning wreck or just punching out and letting the fire fighters worry about it. His problems started on final approach... His jet looked like it was on the ass end of the power curve which is not a good place to be on approach to landing. To top it off this looked like a traditional approach to landing as opposed to a VTOL with which I'm sure he was more accustomed. __________________

06-07-10, 05:10 AM	#6
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Here's the story: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6301835.ece He had a engine failure and had to do a emergency landing. reason he probally stayed in his cockpit for that long was to make sure he didn't collide with the passenger aircraft. also carrying external fuel tanks and live laser guided bombs....pfew HunterICX __________________

06-07-10, 08:11 AM	#9
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	"suffered a back injury in the accident" Jesus... probably upon the touchdown, which means he punched out with an injured back. if not upon touchdown, then i suppose they are referring to the spinal compression. __________________

06-07-10, 08:16 AM	#10
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Nicely done that man, very professional and heroic. Harrier doesn't look like it'll be a total write-off either. At least the Harrier engines are more reliable now than they were to begin with. I recall one pilot who suffered an engine cut out whilst flying over West Germany, he began to lose altitude quite dramatically and so banged out...and as he floated down suddenly the Harriers engine starts up, roars into life and the Harrier sets off towards the GDR by itself. Panic sets in, and Luftwaffe F-104s take off but just can't get it, eventually a BAe Lightning shot it down near the GDR border. Good book : http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cold-War-Hot.../dp/1844155757

06-07-10, 08:18 AM	#11
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	WOW...he wanted to ride it out or he was just in utter shock the aircraft was falling to pieces around him. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

06-07-10, 08:26 AM	#12
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	@Oberon I'm pretty sure that thing IS a 100% write off. The airframe is definitely unusable and I'm pretty sure the electronics, engine, and cockpit instruments didn't like the crash, the fire and the water (or whatever stuff they used to extinguish the flames) all too much either. @Warhawk I'm with GR on that one, he didn't eject until the flames reached the canopy. I'm sure he didn't want to get fried or blown to pieces. __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.