VIIB with VIIC conning tower?

[oscar19681]

Call me a nitpicker but in the concept art the VIIB model is incorrect. It has a VIIC tower. http://ve3d.ign.com/images/63020/PC/...on-Unit-Render

compare it with this.



Normally i,n nit such a rivet counter but they had it right in SH-3 so why would they make this mistake in sh-5.

[TH0R]

Not only that, but the Type VIIC tower is also incorrect. There was already a discussion about it on the forums.

Moders will have lots of work to do...

[oscar19681]

whats wrong with the VIIC conning tower? I dont see anything wrong with that. I believe me i,m somewhat of an expert when it comes to u-boats.

[oscar19681]

Perhaps the best example i could find.



And now for comparison a type VIIC conning tower.



You can clearly see the differences. The untrained eye migyht say they are identical. Which leads me to believe that someone responsible for the models did not do there homework. I,m sorry to have to say this but i am hardcore afterall. Its so weird because they did the VIIA and VIIC as good as perfect to my knowledge.

[TH0R]

Originally Posted by oscar19681

whats wrong with the VIIC conning tower? I dont see anything wrong with that. I believe me i,m somewhat of an expert when it comes to u-boats.

Well, I am not an expert, but it was obvious to me even in SH3 that the VIIC CT was plain wrong. SeeWolfU-571 has explained it here with pictures:


http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...3451044928/p/1


In short: the bridge deck should be lowered downwards.

[oscar19681]

Originally Posted by TH0R

Well, I am not an expert, but it was obvious to me even in SH3 that the VIIC CT was plain wrong. SeeWolfU-571 has explained it here with pictures:


http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...3451044928/p/1


In short: the bridge deck should be lowered downwards.

Yes i was aware of this. But personally i can live with this because its only a minor cosmetic fault. But having the VIIC tower on a VIIB is worse since (apart from the wire cutter) is the only big thing that sets the 2 types apart visually. The viib in sh-5 looks identical to the one in das boot which basicly was a VIIC with a wire cutter. Kind of a hybrid of the 2 types.

[flakmonkey]

Who said that was a photo of the viib? Ive certainly seen photos of early viics that still had the net cutters.

[oscar19681]

Originally Posted by flakmonkey

Who said that was a photo of the viib? Ive certainly seen photos of early viics that still had the net cutters.

If you mean the picture of the concept art then yes its a VIIB since there are only 3 type VII,s in sh-5 and they are all presented on the link in the first post. But if you can show me a picture of a VIIC with a wirew cutter i like to see it.

[TH0R]

Originally Posted by oscar19681

Yes i was aware of this. But personally i can live with this because its only a minor cosmetic fault. But having the VIIC tower on a VIIB is worse since (apart from the wire cutter) is the only big thing that sets the 2 types apart visually. The viib in sh-5 looks identical to the one in das boot which basicly was a VIIC with a wire cutter. Kind of a hybrid of the 2 types.

Early Type VIIC had net cutters IIRC. The DAS BOOT was a proper type VIIC, with net cutters and wave breakers around the deck gun railing. You can see the clear difference between Type VIIB and Type VIIC in the bow section as well - the VIIC is wider.

The SH5 in-game is the later war model, with the same inherent bridge deck error as in SH3. The Type VIIC in SH3 used the same hull for VIIC and VIIC/41 and VIIC/42. In addition, the deck railing was a part of the hull, instead of the conning tower, so the early war Type VIIC looked - horrid...

At least we have a proper deck railing this time. I don't mind the ommited net cutters or the deck gun wave brakers as on VIIB as long as the model is correct, which, again it isn't.

[quad5]

RespectedTH0R, to a great regret all to spit that models in game do not correspond to originals and moders including! Excuse for my bad English.

[oscar19681]

So basicly we have only 2 type VII,s in sh-5 VIIA and VIIC and a VIIC with wirecutter.

[TH0R]

Originally Posted by oscar19681

So basicly we have only 2 type VII,s in sh-5 VIIA and VIIC and a VIIC with wirecutter.

And VIIC/41, which is the best representation of the VIIC. I hope, since it has not been revealed yet.

[oscar19681]

Originally Posted by TH0R

And VIIC/41, which is the best representation of the VIIC. I hope, since it has not been revealed yet.

oh yes how could i forget.

[TH0R]

I said, I hope. On what we have seen so far, and from SH3 - VIIC/41 will be, next to the VIIA the only correct model in the game.



Lets see if we can find some pictures of early type VIIC with net cutters.

[oscar19681]

flakmonkey said he has some pics of it.