Google misdirection and Obama.

[SteamWake]

Look I am not a 'birther' or anything but this aint the first time Google has misdirected search queries related to Obama.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=152937

[Dowly]

[Weiss Pinguin]

"PANTS TENT"

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Look I am not a 'birther' or anything but this aint the first time Google has misdirected search queries related to Obama.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=152937

Interesting article

[GoldenRivet]

I have never been a big proponent of the "birther argument"

However, i believe that someone high enough up in the US Government can have any document faked.

I - as a voter and citizen - would like to know (as i think any open minded voting citizen should) why this president has a birth certificate in Hawaii, but he has a social security number from another state that was issued almost 20 years into his life.

that - in the very least - deserves attention and answering in the sake of fairness right?

but, when a man has millions of blindly faithful followers... i guess it is too much to ask for such things.

[SteamWake]

I wasent even going to go there and I'm sure its much adoo about nothing..

Again I am not a 'birther' frankly I dont think its that important. But there sue is alot of 'smoke' around.

HONOLULU – It's now law in Hawaii that the state government can ignore repetitive requests for President Barack Obama's birth certificate.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100513/..._certificate_2

9 arrested on charges of accessing Obama's student loan records.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/9-indi....html?x=0&.v=1

[Dowly]

HONOLULU – It's now law in Hawaii that the state government can ignore repetitive requests for President Barack Obama's birth certificate.

Maybe because of this:

A few of those requesters file repeated inquiries seeking the same information, even after they're told state law bars release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest.

[TheSatyr]

I would think any citizen of the US would have a "tangible" reason. You have to be a natural born citizen (meaning being born on US soil,which includes military bases and I think Embassies),in order to be President.

Seems to me the People have the right to know if their President is a natural born citizen or not.

And then there is that little inconvenient fact that even if he was a US citizen his mother renounced both her and Obama's US citizenship when she moved her and her son to Indonesia. Plus the fact that he travelled until the early 2000s on an Indonesian passport. So obviously he had Indonesian citizenship. My question is when did he regain his US citizenship?

And shouldn't renouncing your US citizenship make you inelligible to be President?

And personally,I wish people would just give up on the whole Kenya thing. That was just a red herring started by a Democrat. What they should be doing is trying to find Obama's paper trail in Indonesia...if they haven't destroyed it all already.

[razark]

Originally Posted by TheSatyr

And then there is that little inconvenient fact that even if he was a US citizen his mother renounced both her and Obama's US citizenship when she moved her and her son to Indonesia.

His mother could not renounce his citizenship. The only person who can do so is Obama himself, and he could only have done so after he turned 18.

Originally Posted by TheSatyr

My question is when did he regain his US citizenship?

When did he lose it?

Originally Posted by TheSatyr

And shouldn't renouncing your US citizenship make you inelligible to be President?

The laws are such that if person X makes a claim that person Y has renounced his citizenship, the burden of proof falls on person X to prove that person Y did, in fact, renounce his citizenship.

Therefore, you must prove Obama renounced his US citizenship after he turned 18. And Obama holding dual citizenship at any point doesn't change anything.

[August]

I question the accuracy of this story. The first three digits of my SSN are 024. The zip code for the town I grew up in is 014. My ssn was issued in 1974.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by August

I question the accuracy of this story. The first three digits of my SSN are 024. The zip code for the town I grew up in is 014. My ssn was issued in 1974.

How does that work, anyway? My first three are 551. My hometown's zip is 902. Is there any connection? Year was 1963, I think.

[frau kaleun]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

How does that work, anyway? My first three are 551. My hometown's zip is 902. Is there any connection? Year was 1963, I think.

http://www.socialsecurity.gov/history/ssn/geocard.html

The nine-digit SSN is composed of three parts:

• The first set of three digits is called the Area Number
• The second set of two digits is called the Group Number
• The final set of four digits is the Serial Number

Area Number
The Area Number is assigned by the geographical region. Prior to 1972, cards were issued in local Social Security offices around the country and the Area Number represented the State in which the card was issued. This did not necessarily have to be the State where the applicant lived, since a person could apply for their card in any Social Security office. Since 1972, when SSA began assigning SSNs and issuing cards centrally from Baltimore, the area number assigned has been based on the ZIP code in the mailing address provided on the application for the original Social Security card. The applicant's mailing address does not have to be the same as their place of residence. Thus, the Area Number does not necessarily represent the State of residence of the applicant, either prior to 1972 or since.

Generally, numbers were assigned beginning in the northeast and moving westward. So people on the east coast have the lowest numbers and those on the west coast have the highest numbers.

Note: One should not make too much of the "geographical code." It is not meant to be any kind of useable geographical information. The numbering scheme was designed in 1936 (before computers) to make it easier for SSA to store the applications in our files in Baltimore since the files were organized by regions as well as alphabetically. It was really just a bookkeeping device for our own internal use and was never intended to be anything more than that.

[Torvald Von Mansee]

Some of you are nuts. He won fair and square, and he is an American citizen born on American soil. Don't like a black man being President? Too bad. But get over it, or at least shut up about it.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee

Some of you are nuts. He won fair and square, and he is an American citizen born on American soil. Don't like a black man being President? Too bad. But get over it, or at least shut up about it.

Its not a matter of a "black man being president"... what in the tuna fish hell does that have to do with anything???

Who even said anything about that? in fact, using the "find" function in my web browser - YOU sir are the first person who even brought that up, and aside from my posted response and quote of you It is the ONLY time it ever appears in the entire discussion.

are you black TVM?

and if so, is your race SO weak and cowardly, that the victim race card is the first and only hiding place your kind knows how to run to?



Give that crap a rest dude.





the question i would personally like to have answered is

why is Obama using a recycled SS number (which is illegal), which originated in a state he never lived in, issued to him almost 20 years after he was born?

are you not the least bit curious about that? even at all?

a simple explanation is all we would like




@ Razark

many nations require you to renounce your previous citizenship in order to attain citizinship in their country.

as far as I'm aware, Germany does this (skybird?) as well as Indonesia.

if he EVER had citizenship in ANY such place... his US citizenship WAS clearly and without question, abolished and officially renounced.

[frau kaleun]

which originated in a state he never lived in

WRT to this "issue," see my post above.

The so-called "area number" portion of the SSN represents either the state where the SSA office that issued it was located or the zip code of the mailing address from which the application was sent.

Although in most cases this naturally corresponds to the applicant's place of birth and/or residence, that correspondence is incidental. The number is not and never was intended to be indicative of place of birth/residence and never has been issued based on the location of either.