Where is battle ships

torpedo1963 · 03-21-09, 10:26 AM

So where i can find those big fat battle ships? it is quite boring play sh4,i cant find battle ships.not even harbours-only little destroyers.
And i get only missions near tokyo!!!

groomsie · 03-21-09, 12:30 PM

Seriously, consider there were historically a lot more destoyers and light cruiser types than battleships.

What time frame are you running?

I would recommend you run RSRDC mod to model historical traffic better. Then, maybe lurk around Truk in 1943? Or, if running RSRDC check for historical battleship movements and wait there.

By the way, welcome to SHIV.

neosnk35 · 03-21-09, 12:45 PM

groomsie is right.. you should get RSRDC and google historical BB\TF movements and wait there... but should you encounter a TF its gonna be hell with those escorts 6-12 dds and counting.. but still you can skip around them... yep Truk alright in 1943 theres tons of them just be cautious of those subnets near land

Torplexed · 03-21-09, 01:34 PM

All told, Japan had 12 battleships total during the course of the Pacific War.

4 Kongo class
2 Fuso class
2 Ise class
2 Nagato class
2 Yamato class building or fitting out at the start.

Realistically, your odds of running into one should be rather low. However, the game will always spawn a replacement if you sink one.

Japan starts with 18 heavy and 20 light cruisers. Your odds of running into them are pretty good.

peabody · 03-21-09, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by torpedo1963

So where i can find those big fat battle ships? it is quite boring play sh4,i cant find battle ships.not even harbours-only little destroyers.
And i get only missions near tokyo!!!

In the stock game a good place to look is near Rabaul. They usually enter from the north channel. But you may have to let several convoys pass by if you really want to wait for a Task Force.

Peabody

Soundman · 03-21-09, 02:12 PM

At one time, I too, had that problem... Check out this old thread and you'll find the answer and remedy I got when asking a similar question. ..Go here.. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...ighlight=RSRDC

SpeedyPC · 03-22-09, 03:24 AM

You can find big fat battle ships to sink and kill, just enter inside Tokyo Bay the major problem you have to watchout for destoyers and light cruiser types waiting for you outside near Tokyo Bay, because the destoyers and light cruiser knows your inside Tokyo Bay you have to get out alive from Tokyo Bay.

For another words you are facing a one way ticket is death, if you can get out of Tokyo Bay alive playing 100% real then you are a real skipper of your very own submarine 'May the Sinking Flat Top be with you'.

Frame57 · 03-22-09, 11:29 AM

You will also find them at times in large task forces. Even though it was the job of the Skippers to take out merchants predominantly, you can have fun taking on a task force. The concept of wolf packs are not in this game but it would be fun to have AI co-op to operate with 2 other boats while setting up an attack on a convoy. Maybe SH-5 will employ this I hope.

Stormende · 06-05-09, 03:05 PM

I did sink a Kongo BB in my first patrol with an old S lady, I was based on manila and was sent to patrol whatever is the name of the strait or pass up north of Aparri, then a task force came right to me, just waited, maneuvered when IDed the ships, picked my target, waited again and fired. 4 hits and she went to hell. I was lucky tho, the escorts went to check something and left the BB's all alone. There I got the hhang of the PK, now I can handle it more decently at 100% realism.

Also there is a lot of task force traffic early in the war traveling from Formosa - I think - to Singapore.

Armistead · 06-06-09, 04:38 AM

Load RSRD and learn your history. You'll find many at the major battles such as Midway, Battle of Philippine sea....and if you really want some the Battle of Leyte. I prefer to wait at the Surigao Strait, two Fuso's come that way. Then you can rush and cathc the center force the next day at Samar.

Truk is always full of them in 43 if you're into harbor raping....good points.

Akula4745 · 06-07-09, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

Truk is always full of them in 43 if you're into harbor raping....

Why Armistead... you make harbor raping sound like a bad thing!! LOL

Stealhead · 06-07-09, 03:22 PM

In warfare killing your foe with the least amount of risk to oneself is very wise.Ask Gene Fluckley(well you cant he passed away in 2007). I see the submarine as a nasty weapon much like a sniper fighting fair should not even be in a submariners dictionary.Raping would have to invlove an un willing victim any enemny ship does not apply to this notion for they know of the threat of attack and did not properly defend themselves aginst it.Further more rape is a sexual assult or it can mean the act of seizing taking by force abducting or plundering. but those would involve towing away the ships in the harbur not sinking them.

Armistead · 06-08-09, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Akula4745

Why Armistead... you make harbor raping sound like a bad thing!! LOL

I also said good points.. I actually enjoy harbor raping Truk, Osaka and Kure. I only made it into Kure and out one time.

Truk is rather easy. Be nice if they would put some idle dd's mixed in with the stationary targets in harbors so they would take off and hunt you down.

I like full loads of M16's, so I'll rape truk for the points and build them up.
Nice to have 50,000 points when they come available.

Akula4745 · 06-08-09, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

I also said good points.. I actually enjoy harbor raping Truk, Osaka and Kure. I only made it into Kure and out one time.

I do exactly the same, sir... I have found several harbors worth checking for big targets when you pass by... but I am sure there are more I have not discovered yet. It makes figuring course and speed much easier.

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Originally Posted by Stealhead

I see the submarine as a nasty weapon much like a sniper fighting fair should not even be in a submariners dictionary.

So true. Sneak in and make the kill... then slip away into the darkness.

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Originally Posted by Stealhead

...but those would involve towing away the ships in the harbor not sinking them.

Now there is an idea! LOL

Armistead · 06-08-09, 07:03 AM

I think it was the fall of 43 that Truk was a field day. I went in and sunk 2 carriers and one Yamato. Went to the Solomon's at flank speed, refitted and flanked back, this time a differnt huge TF, so sunk as much as possible and repeated. Seemed everytime I went back another large TF was there. Even with 3 refits it still only took a month and I sunk over 300K tons. So I allow that brutal raping for the points.

Truk does have some challange to it getting by the several dd's and with contacts off it's what I call fair game. For most of the war there is always one Yamato and Fuso there.

We call it raping for one reason...the stationary ships just sit there and don't fight back, but all is fair in love and war. I just overall prefer moving targets, but in none can be found, I'll harbor rape somewhere before I run out of fuel. In reality, this would be rather impossible, there would be subnets closed and only opened when ships come in or out.

03-21-09, 10:26 AM	#1
torpedo1963 Watch Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 15 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Where is battle ships So where i can find those big fat battle ships? it is quite boring play sh4,i cant find battle ships.not even harbours-only little destroyers. And i get only missions near tokyo!!!

03-21-09, 12:30 PM	#2
groomsie Electrician's Mate Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Stoughton, WI Posts: 140 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	Patience, Grasshopper Seriously, consider there were historically a lot more destoyers and light cruiser types than battleships. What time frame are you running? I would recommend you run RSRDC mod to model historical traffic better. Then, maybe lurk around Truk in 1943? Or, if running RSRDC check for historical battleship movements and wait there. By the way, welcome to SHIV.

03-21-09, 12:45 PM	#3
neosnk35 A-ganger Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 78 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	groomsie is right.. you should get RSRDC and google historical BB\TF movements and wait there... but should you encounter a TF its gonna be hell with those escorts 6-12 dds and counting.. but still you can skip around them... yep Truk alright in 1943 theres tons of them just be cautious of those subnets near land __________________ MODS I USE: Real Environment~Run Silent Run Deep~NSM4 Light~GATO HI-RES V2~Map Colour Scheme~MetalHudKit Graybars HELP!!!! I'M A NON-MODDER, MOD USER.....

03-21-09, 02:12 PM	#6
Soundman Commodore Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 617 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	At one time, I too, had that problem... Check out this old thread and you'll find the answer and remedy I got when asking a similar question. ..Go here.. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...ighlight=RSRDC __________________ RVAH-9 RA-5C Vigilante at NAS Sanford, Fl 1966 The coolest plane few have heard of!

03-22-09, 11:29 AM	#8
Frame57 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: 1300 feet on the crapper Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	You will also find them at times in large task forces. Even though it was the job of the Skippers to take out merchants predominantly, you can have fun taking on a task force. The concept of wolf packs are not in this game but it would be fun to have AI co-op to operate with 2 other boats while setting up an attack on a convoy. Maybe SH-5 will employ this I hope. __________________ "My Religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble minds." Albert Einstein

03-21-09, 01:34 PM	#4
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	All told, Japan had 12 battleships total during the course of the Pacific War. 4 Kongo class 2 Fuso class 2 Ise class 2 Nagato class 2 Yamato class building or fitting out at the start. Realistically, your odds of running into one should be rather low. However, the game will always spawn a replacement if you sink one. Japan starts with 18 heavy and 20 light cruisers. Your odds of running into them are pretty good.

03-22-09, 03:24 AM	#7
SpeedyPC Officer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 241 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 0	You can find big fat battle ships to sink and kill, just enter inside Tokyo Bay the major problem you have to watchout for destoyers and light cruiser types waiting for you outside near Tokyo Bay, because the destoyers and light cruiser knows your inside Tokyo Bay you have to get out alive from Tokyo Bay. For another words you are facing a one way ticket is death, if you can get out of Tokyo Bay alive playing 100% real then you are a real skipper of your very own submarine 'May the Sinking Flat Top be with you'.

06-05-09, 03:05 PM	#9
Stormende Soundman Join Date: May 2009 Location: México, DF. Posts: 146 Downloads: 774 Uploads: 1	I sank a Kongo I did sink a Kongo BB in my first patrol with an old S lady, I was based on manila and was sent to patrol whatever is the name of the strait or pass up north of Aparri, then a task force came right to me, just waited, maneuvered when IDed the ships, picked my target, waited again and fired. 4 hits and she went to hell. I was lucky tho, the escorts went to check something and left the BB's all alone. There I got the hhang of the PK, now I can handle it more decently at 100% realism. Also there is a lot of task force traffic early in the war traveling from Formosa - I think - to Singapore. Last edited by Stormende; 06-05-09 at 07:41 PM.

06-06-09, 04:38 AM	#10
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Load RSRD and learn your history. You'll find many at the major battles such as Midway, Battle of Philippine sea....and if you really want some the Battle of Leyte. I prefer to wait at the Surigao Strait, two Fuso's come that way. Then you can rush and cathc the center force the next day at Samar. Truk is always full of them in 43 if you're into harbor raping....good points.

06-07-09, 03:22 PM	#12
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	In warfare killing your foe with the least amount of risk to oneself is very wise.Ask Gene Fluckley(well you cant he passed away in 2007). I see the submarine as a nasty weapon much like a sniper fighting fair should not even be in a submariners dictionary.Raping would have to invlove an un willing victim any enemny ship does not apply to this notion for they know of the threat of attack and did not properly defend themselves aginst it.Further more rape is a sexual assult or it can mean the act of seizing taking by force abducting or plundering. but those would involve towing away the ships in the harbur not sinking them. Last edited by Stealhead; 06-07-09 at 03:34 PM.

06-08-09, 07:03 AM	#15
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I think it was the fall of 43 that Truk was a field day. I went in and sunk 2 carriers and one Yamato. Went to the Solomon's at flank speed, refitted and flanked back, this time a differnt huge TF, so sunk as much as possible and repeated. Seemed everytime I went back another large TF was there. Even with 3 refits it still only took a month and I sunk over 300K tons. So I allow that brutal raping for the points. Truk does have some challange to it getting by the several dd's and with contacts off it's what I call fair game. For most of the war there is always one Yamato and Fuso there. We call it raping for one reason...the stationary ships just sit there and don't fight back, but all is fair in love and war. I just overall prefer moving targets, but in none can be found, I'll harbor rape somewhere before I run out of fuel. In reality, this would be rather impossible, there would be subnets closed and only opened when ships come in or out.