Does sending a contact report do anything?

mookiemookie · 03-12-10, 04:29 PM

Well? Has anyone noticed German air attacks or wolfpacks or ? as a result of a contact report sent in?

Nisgeis · 03-12-10, 04:30 PM

Yes it does. I have seen the files...

** POTENTIAL SPOILER*

There is an increased chance of aerial attack and increased chance of detection. There also seems to be an increased chance of an allied interception / air attack, but this is based on the files that I have looked at actually being connected to the game and not some random left over that is a red herring.

I haven't seen anything about wolf pack behaviour - I think it's air that's tied to contact reports, but if a U-Boat 'happens along' then it will engage (I believe).

Sunfighter · 03-12-10, 04:43 PM

I had a friendly warship show up on the contact map nearby, but it never engaged and just sorta spun in circles, I dont even know what kind of ship it was, never bothered to check out.

Could of been a coincidence, but considering i was pretty much in the river thames....not sure another german ship would of made its way up there..

Turm · 03-12-10, 06:30 PM

Whilst fully loaded with all 14 torpedoes, I radioed in a convoy contact up near Scotland.

A few minutes later, I got a reply from BdU telling me to transfer to a new patrol area 400 miles to the south, and begin patrolling there!

Needless to say, I ignored that order temporarily and attacked the convoy!

Noren · 03-12-10, 06:50 PM

...that would have been difficult to explain to the BdU when he reads your loggbook

Méo · 03-12-10, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nisgeis

There is an increased chance of aerial attack and increased chance of detection. There also seems to be an increased chance of an allied interception / air attack, but this is based on the files that I have looked at actually being connected to the game and not some random left over that is a red herring.

I haven't seen anything about wolf pack behaviour - I think it's air that's tied to contact reports, but if a U-Boat 'happens along' then it will engage (I believe).

I really wonder if it will be moddable or if there will be an add-on for this.

Increased chance of attack isn't enough for me, what I want is a REAL ''coordinated'' surface attack from many U-boats when the night comes.

(I know it wasn't perfectly ''coordinated'')

For me this is of a critical importance for the game, it would be really a truly diffenrent experience from SH3 and it has not been mentioned since the release!!!

I want real Wolfpacks !!!

Who's with me!

Quote:

A massed target then, should be attacked by massed U-boats.

- Dönitz

SabreHawk · 03-12-10, 07:37 PM

Well this could have been a fluke because as best I could tell the send contact report button looked to be non functional(appeared to be blacked out.) in the training mission.(Invasion of Poland).
But on the way back to Kiel, I ran across a lone polish merchant twice, I was able to sink the first one I caught, but the next one I stumbled on I only had the stern torpedo left, and weather was too rough for a deck gun attack. So I plugged him with the one torp I had, but wasn't enough to do the job, so I went and clicked on the contact report button anyway.
Then about 20 min. later a friendly aircraft showed up and attacked the merchant I'd torpedo'ed. Still wasnt enough to sink him though. Too bad the weather prevented a gun attack or I could have come home with 6 kills instead of the required 4.

"Damn this stinking weather" (Das Boot)

So im assuming the button worked, and being in the waters I was so close to home that the aircraft was a response to my report.

jlederer · 03-12-10, 07:48 PM

Give the number and spacing of U-boats in the atlantic, it would be unrealistic if a contact report resulted in another sub arriving in anything less than several hours. Similarly think intervention by the Luftwaffe or the Kriegsmarine would be very limited except for within very near vicintity of Continental Europe.

Méo · 03-12-10, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jlederer

Give the number and spacing of U-boats in the atlantic, it would be unrealistic if a contact report resulted in another sub arriving in anything less than several hours.

Yeah, but when the secret services knew there was a convoy, BdU ordered many U-boats to form a ''catching line'' to intercept and shadow the convoy.

SabreHawk · 03-12-10, 08:00 PM

Oh yes I do think the quickness of the response was my close proximity to a Luftwaffe base. SH3 was the same way and perfectly normal.

One certainly cant expect a response out in the atlantic unless by chance another friendly is near enough. But thats not likely.

The one time It happened for me in SH3 was on my way back to Kiel and I was in the Skagerrak Strait when I reported it, and weather was clear.

Onkel Neal · 03-12-10, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Well? Has anyone noticed German air attacks or wolfpacks or ? as a result of a contact report sent in?

Good question.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nisgeis

Yes it does. I have seen the files...

** POTENTIAL SPOILER*

There is an increased chance of aerial attack and increased chance of detection. There also seems to be an increased chance of an allied interception / air attack, but this is based on the files that I have looked at actually being connected to the game and not some random left over that is a red herring.

I haven't seen anything about wolf pack behaviour - I think it's air that's tied to contact reports, but if a U-Boat 'happens along' then it will engage (I believe).

Great answer!

I am going to test that tonight, going to find a convoy and shadow all the way into por, sending contact reports every 2 hours. Let's see what happens...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Méo

For me this is of a critical importance for the game, it would be really a truly diffenrent experience from SH3 and it has not been mentioned since the release!!!

I want real Wolfpacks !!!

Who's with me!

- Dönitz

I am, I am!

MaciejK · 03-13-10, 03:07 AM

Me too, gonna try it out tonight!

03-12-10, 04:29 PM	#1
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03-12-10, 04:30 PM	#2
Nisgeis Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,909 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 11	Yes it does. I have seen the files... ** POTENTIAL SPOILER* There is an increased chance of aerial attack and increased chance of detection. There also seems to be an increased chance of an allied interception / air attack, but this is based on the files that I have looked at actually being connected to the game and not some random left over that is a red herring. I haven't seen anything about wolf pack behaviour - I think it's air that's tied to contact reports, but if a U-Boat 'happens along' then it will engage (I believe). __________________ -------------------------------- This space left intentionally blank.

03-12-10, 07:37 PM	#7
SabreHawk Captain Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Seattle, Wa. USA Posts: 530 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Well this could have been a fluke because as best I could tell the send contact report button looked to be non functional(appeared to be blacked out.) in the training mission.(Invasion of Poland). But on the way back to Kiel, I ran across a lone polish merchant twice, I was able to sink the first one I caught, but the next one I stumbled on I only had the stern torpedo left, and weather was too rough for a deck gun attack. So I plugged him with the one torp I had, but wasn't enough to do the job, so I went and clicked on the contact report button anyway. Then about 20 min. later a friendly aircraft showed up and attacked the merchant I'd torpedo'ed. Still wasnt enough to sink him though. Too bad the weather prevented a gun attack or I could have come home with 6 kills instead of the required 4. "Damn this stinking weather" (Das Boot) So im assuming the button worked, and being in the waters I was so close to home that the aircraft was a response to my report. __________________ "Chance favors the prepared mind"

03-12-10, 07:48 PM	#8
jlederer Bosun Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 63 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	What to expect Give the number and spacing of U-boats in the atlantic, it would be unrealistic if a contact report resulted in another sub arriving in anything less than several hours. Similarly think intervention by the Luftwaffe or the Kriegsmarine would be very limited except for within very near vicintity of Continental Europe.

03-12-10, 08:00 PM	#10
SabreHawk Captain Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Seattle, Wa. USA Posts: 530 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Oh yes I do think the quickness of the response was my close proximity to a Luftwaffe base. SH3 was the same way and perfectly normal. One certainly cant expect a response out in the atlantic unless by chance another friendly is near enough. But thats not likely. The one time It happened for me in SH3 was on my way back to Kiel and I was in the Skagerrak Strait when I reported it, and weather was clear. __________________ "Chance favors the prepared mind"

03-12-10, 04:43 PM	#3
Sunfighter A-ganger Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 78 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I had a friendly warship show up on the contact map nearby, but it never engaged and just sorta spun in circles, I dont even know what kind of ship it was, never bothered to check out. Could of been a coincidence, but considering i was pretty much in the river thames....not sure another german ship would of made its way up there..

03-12-10, 06:30 PM	#4
Turm Engineer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 210 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Whilst fully loaded with all 14 torpedoes, I radioed in a convoy contact up near Scotland. A few minutes later, I got a reply from BdU telling me to transfer to a new patrol area 400 miles to the south, and begin patrolling there! Needless to say, I ignored that order temporarily and attacked the convoy!

03-12-10, 06:50 PM	#5
Noren 中国水兵 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 284 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	...that would have been difficult to explain to the BdU when he reads your loggbook

03-13-10, 03:07 AM	#12
MaciejK Torpedoman Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mielno / Warsaw - Republic of Poland Posts: 119 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	Me too, gonna try it out tonight! __________________