[PROB] Flickering at 3D-Models cause of mods?

Dragon81 · 03-08-10, 07:06 AM

I had a problem with flickering textures at all ships and buildings like you can see here: (my video)

I wanted to test what graphic option is the reason for this, so I disabled all options and uninstalled all mods (Camera tweak and No halo no bubbles mod).
-> No flickering anymore.

I enabled the graphic options one by one and tested it after each step.
-> No flickering anymore.

Now I have the same graphic option as before and no flickering.
I don't have installed the mods anymore.

Is it possible that the mod was the reason?

In this video the same mods are active and you can see the same flickering at 1:20. (Video of stabiz)

If this problem is cause of the mods the mods have to be fixed.

Pintea · 03-08-10, 07:10 AM

That is called z-fighting.

Happens when you're too far away from the submarine.

Nisgeis · 03-08-10, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pintea

That is called z-fighting.

Absolutely! I get this with stock, but not all the time. I think it has to do with when the camera goes from exterior to interior mode - perhaps the depth resolution gets confused between the two?

etheberge · 03-08-10, 08:13 PM

It's introduced / made more apparent with the free camera tweak. Don't install that one and you should be fine. Although I think I've read someone mention that they had the same kind of problems with default much less and only at certain angles.

I still use the mod personally, I'm sure CCIP will tweak it a little bit more soon.

CCIP · 03-08-10, 08:31 PM

Yeah, sorry guys, it's an issue with the mod's reduced clipping distance from the sub. At the moment it's a bit of a tradeoff between how close you can get the camera to the sub, versus the occurence of these glitches. At narrow FOV these are less obvious, at regular FOV though it still needs a bit of tweaking.

Kinda busy with work at the moment so I can't tweak it out just yet. Next weekend I'll give it a closer look

If you ask me, it's not a terrible tradeoff at the moment though...

Dragon81 · 03-09-10, 01:35 AM

Thank's for the answer CCIP.

Dragon81 · 03-08-10, 07:26 AM

I don't think so. The submarine is in sight of the destroyer. A view seconds after the end of the video the destroyer attacked me.

stabiz · 03-08-10, 07:40 AM

I think its weather related. I see it less in nice weather.

Edit: Uh, the weather is nice in your video.

capthelm · 03-08-10, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragon81

I had a problem with flickering textures at all ships and buildings like you can see here: (my video)

I wanted to test what graphic option is the reason for this, so I disabled all options and uninstalled all mods (Camera tweak and No halo no bubbles mod).
-> No flickering anymore.

I enabled the graphic options one by one and tested it after each step.
-> No flickering anymore.

Now I have the same graphic option as before and no flickering.
I don't have installed the mods anymore.

Is it possible that the mod was the reason?

In this video the same mods are active and you can see the same flickering at 1:20. (Video of stabiz)

If this problem is cause of the mods the mods have to be fixed.

even without mods there is some graphic glitching going on. , this is with nvidia users, dont know about ati cards though.

Dragon81 · 03-08-10, 07:51 AM

I have a nVidia GTX295.
But I don't have the problem anymore after I uninstalled the two mods.
- Camera tweak
- No halo no bubbles

McHibbins · 03-08-10, 08:15 AM

Same here. Without these mods there´s no flickering

stabiz · 03-08-10, 08:34 AM

Interesting! The cam tweak is nice but can be sacrificed, but I really dont want those halos and bubbles back.

Pintea · 03-08-10, 09:07 AM

Can you post the changes made by the camera mod ? That is most probably the issue.

03-08-10, 07:06 AM	#1
Dragon81 Engineer Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Baden-Württemberg / Germany Posts: 200 Downloads: 68 Uploads: 0	[PROB] Flickering at 3D-Models cause of mods? I had a problem with flickering textures at all ships and buildings like you can see here: (my video) I wanted to test what graphic option is the reason for this, so I disabled all options and uninstalled all mods (Camera tweak and No halo no bubbles mod). -> No flickering anymore. I enabled the graphic options one by one and tested it after each step. -> No flickering anymore. Now I have the same graphic option as before and no flickering. I don't have installed the mods anymore. Is it possible that the mod was the reason? In this video the same mods are active and you can see the same flickering at 1:20. (Video of stabiz) If this problem is cause of the mods the mods have to be fixed.

03-08-10, 08:13 PM	#4
etheberge Watch Officer Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Montreal, QC Posts: 345 Downloads: 614 Uploads: 10	It's introduced / made more apparent with the free camera tweak. Don't install that one and you should be fine. Although I think I've read someone mention that they had the same kind of problems with default much less and only at certain angles. I still use the mod personally, I'm sure CCIP will tweak it a little bit more soon. __________________ 11 War Patrols / 56 ships sunk or damaged for 212,022 tons Zero casualties throughout the war Scuttled on 8 May, 1945 in Sonderburg Bay, after German surrender

03-08-10, 08:31 PM	#5
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Yeah, sorry guys, it's an issue with the mod's reduced clipping distance from the sub. At the moment it's a bit of a tradeoff between how close you can get the camera to the sub, versus the occurence of these glitches. At narrow FOV these are less obvious, at regular FOV though it still needs a bit of tweaking. Kinda busy with work at the moment so I can't tweak it out just yet. Next weekend I'll give it a closer look If you ask me, it's not a terrible tradeoff at the moment though... __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-08-10, 07:40 AM	#8
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	I think its weather related. I see it less in nice weather. Edit: Uh, the weather is nice in your video. __________________

03-08-10, 08:15 AM	#11
McHibbins Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Good old Germany Posts: 739 Downloads: 80 Uploads: 0	Same here. Without these mods there´s no flickering __________________

03-08-10, 07:10 AM	#2
Pintea Sparky Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 152 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	That is called z-fighting. Happens when you're too far away from the submarine.

03-09-10, 01:35 AM	#6
Dragon81 Engineer Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Baden-Württemberg / Germany Posts: 200 Downloads: 68 Uploads: 0	Thank's for the answer CCIP.

03-08-10, 07:26 AM	#7
Dragon81 Engineer Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Baden-Württemberg / Germany Posts: 200 Downloads: 68 Uploads: 0	I don't think so. The submarine is in sight of the destroyer. A view seconds after the end of the video the destroyer attacked me.

03-08-10, 07:51 AM	#10
Dragon81 Engineer Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Baden-Württemberg / Germany Posts: 200 Downloads: 68 Uploads: 0	I have a nVidia GTX295. But I don't have the problem anymore after I uninstalled the two mods. - Camera tweak - No halo no bubbles

03-08-10, 08:34 AM	#12
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Interesting! The cam tweak is nice but can be sacrificed, but I really dont want those halos and bubbles back. __________________

03-08-10, 09:07 AM	#13
Pintea Sparky Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 152 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Can you post the changes made by the camera mod ? That is most probably the issue.