No Connection/Dialup only/Hate DRM

Reece · 02-25-10, 09:45 PM

I think this would be statistically a very interesting view of why people wont be buying SHV as well as other games that require a permanent online connection.

There are those who:
Do not have a connection at all.
Unstable/bad connection.
Only have dialup, that is just too slow, especially for game saves!
Just don't like being online for single player games.
Because of these reasons I feel that after the initial release and sales flatten out a patch will be released and a second wave of sales will flood the market, this would be good for all, gamers and Ubisoft!

Note: This is not a hate DRM/OSP thread, I'm trying to find out how many people can't buy DRM/OSP type games due to hardware problems, if I didn't put the last entry in people would just vote on the first 3 making the whole point of this redundant.

Schultzy · 02-25-10, 09:51 PM

Can you imagine how big your phone bill would be if you went on patrol on dial up?

I like your optimism and I hope you're right, but I'm not at sure that that will happen.

Méo · 02-25-10, 09:51 PM

Well I posted this in another thread, but since you made a thread for it:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reece

legitimate people that either haven't got an internet connection or only have dialup that is not good enough for permanent online use! that's a lot of potential buyers

A lot of potential buyers with no connection or dial-up in 2010!!

Maybe, but I guess they were also in the impossibility to get the 1.33 GB GWX 3.0

Reece · 02-25-10, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Méo

Well I posted this in another thread, but since you made a thread for it:

A lot of potential buyers with no connection or dial-up in 2010!!

Maybe, but I guess they were also in the impossibility to get the 1.33 GB GWX 3.0

I answered in the other thread, It is a fact! I know of a few towns less than 100km from the city center that have dialup only here in Australia, and there must be a lot I don't know also there must be other countries in the same boat!

Statistics above will soon show, that is why I posted this thread.

Schultzy · 02-25-10, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Méo

Maybe, but I guess they were also in the impossibility to get the 1.33 GB GWX 3.0[/B]

Before I moved to the UK, where I lived didn't have an Internet connection. I used the bookshop to check email and forums at a rate of 10 cent per minute and to download patches, I went to the rob dog Inet cafe and bought 5 hours of credit and D/L'd the files to my zip drive. Not practical, but at least I could get what I needed and then play it at home.

I am sure there are others out there like that.

Méo · 02-25-10, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schultzy

I am sure there are others out there like that.

Sure, but I'd be curious to know if they are so many?

Quote:

The Prime Minister said a fast internet connection is now as vital as electricity, gas and water, and will help the country's communications industries pull Britain out of the recession.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...d-service.html

Schultzy · 02-25-10, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Méo

Sure, but I'd be curious to know if they are so many?

Chances are, they aren't connected, so we'll never know. lol

No, to be serious, I agree with you. It would be interesting to know.

I'm sure though, that UBI must have done their research to go ahead with this DRM and if we assume that, then that means that they must have factored in the losses connected with freezing out a number of potential customers via this system. And by extrapolation, they must feel they can take the hit.
Time will tell if they were right.

In my opinion though, not everyone who would have liked to try SH5 will have perma-net.

Onkel Neal · 02-25-10, 10:12 PM

Is this going to be a repeat of the other 38 polls about DRM?

My prediction: 80% will select the 4th option

Schultzy · 02-25-10, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Is this going to be a repeat of the other 38 polls about DRM?

My prediction: 80% will select the 4th option

The other 20% would have voted for option 4 too Neal, but their net connection was down. :p

Reece · 02-25-10, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Is this going to be a repeat of the other 38 polls about DRM?

My prediction: 80% will select the 4th option

That may well be, but for statistical reasons could be interesting!

Méo · 02-25-10, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schultzy

I'm sure though, that UBI must have done their research to go ahead with this DRM and if we assume that, then that means that they must have factored in the losses connected with freezing out a number of potential customers via this system. And by extrapolation, they must feel they can take the hit.
Time will tell if they were right.

Yes, I agree.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schultzy

In my opinion though, not everyone who would have liked to try SH5 will have perma-net.

It might be difficult to know the exact proportion.

jwilliams · 02-25-10, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Méo

Well I posted this in another thread, but since you made a thread for it:

A lot of potential buyers with no connection or dial-up in 2010!!

Maybe, but I guess they were also in the impossibility to get the 1.33 GB GWX 3.0

Quote:

WASHINGTON — Roughly 40 percent of Americans do not have high-speed Internet access at home, according to new Commerce Department figures that underscore the challenges facing policymakers who are trying to bring affordable broadband connections to everyone.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...MzZwgD9DTD6IG1

Thomen · 02-25-10, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwilliams

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...MzZwgD9DTD6IG1

I'd say the number is somewhat higher then 40 pct. I know of areas not too far from here (roughly 40 miles east of DC) where all you can get is dial up.

CaptainHaplo · 02-25-10, 11:50 PM

The poll isn't accurate. I don't hate DRM - I simply refuse to by a game that uses OSP (or any other "you have to be online" equivilant). DRM is a necessity, and I don't blame companies for using it. When the DRM that is chosen is overly intrusive is when I have an issue.

Had you used OSP instead of DRM I would vote.

mookiemookie · 02-25-10, 11:52 PM

What's the point in rehashing this again?

View Poll Results: What is your reason for not purchasing SHV?
No internet connection.	5	3.16%
Dialup only, too slow for permanent online connection.	6	3.80%
Bad cabling/poor ISP etc.	13	8.23%
Don't like DRM for single player games.	134	84.81%
Voters: 158. You may not vote on this poll

02-25-10, 09:45 PM	#1
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,701 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	No Connection-Dialup only-Hate DRM/OSP I think this would be statistically a very interesting view of why people wont be buying SHV as well as other games that require a permanent online connection. There are those who: Do not have a connection at all. Unstable/bad connection. Only have dialup, that is just too slow, especially for game saves! Just don't like being online for single player games. Because of these reasons I feel that after the initial release and sales flatten out a patch will be released and a second wave of sales will flood the market, this would be good for all, gamers and Ubisoft! Note: This is not a hate DRM/OSP thread, I'm trying to find out how many people can't buy DRM/OSP type games due to hardware problems, if I didn't put the last entry in people would just vote on the first 3 making the whole point of this redundant. __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!* Last edited by Reece; 02-26-10 at 12:13 AM.

02-25-10, 10:12 PM	#8
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02-25-10, 11:50 PM	#14
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	The poll isn't accurate. I don't hate DRM - I simply refuse to by a game that uses OSP (or any other "you have to be online" equivilant). DRM is a necessity, and I don't blame companies for using it. When the DRM that is chosen is overly intrusive is when I have an issue. Had you used OSP instead of DRM I would vote. __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

02-25-10, 11:52 PM	#15
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