Is SH5 even a simulation or arcade?

Greyghost · 02-04-10, 02:57 AM

I have been extremely disappointed over the last couple of weeks just as many others have been as well. Now I see the latest bit of info that just irritates me even more and starts to crush the little bit of hope I had left for this sim. According to Ubisoft's own game listing Silent Hunter 5 is not even listed as a Simulation but as, get this, Action, Adventure.

I think to myself maybe this is a new way of describing the genre yet low and behold just above it is the game, sorry simulation "Imagine - Sweet 16" I don't won't an arcade game which is one reason I never bothered with "Enigma- Rising Tide" This is just another kick in the......

http://www.ubi.com/US/Games/Search.aspx?cal=cs

Westbroek · 02-04-10, 03:15 AM

Don't overestimate the expertly researched and immaculately crafted simulator: Best Friends Tonight.
I'm sure "Imagine-Sweet 16" is good, but I'm a long time BFT fanboy and it kills me that it's not getting the hype it deserves.

No but seriously, yeah, SH5 is an arcade game. Not that that will keep us from talking about it on this Naval Sim forum. Nor should we. Hopefully, with patches, mods, loving care, and a little imagination it will grow up to be a world class (regional class at least) honest to Ra simulator.

karamazovnew · 02-04-10, 03:18 AM

Unlike SH1, (and SH2 a bit) SH3, SH4 and SH5 are not simulators. They have as many sim features as Half-life has "social-development" features. It's the overall game experience, the tactic and feeling behind it all that makes the games worth playing. SH is almost like Guitar Hero in that respect... easy to pick up, lots of difficulty if you want to, but not "the real thing". My guess is that if you've liked SH3 or SH4, you'll like this one too. And a bit of modding always helps in the end.

Letum · 02-04-10, 03:22 AM

There where some aspects that aspired to realism in all the SH games.
There will be some aspects that aspire to realism in SHV.

We know already that there are some new features that are not trying to be realistic.

That is al that can be said on the matter atm.

Mud · 02-04-10, 03:22 AM

If it is arcade then they surely picked the wrong title because it won't fit in the Silent Hunter series.
I think the bashing and smashing would be totaly different if it was an other title so we didn t expect a successor of the series, except for the OPS maybe.
The fog thickens ........

Boris · 02-04-10, 03:50 AM

Do people even still know what arcade means? SH5, even with all that we've seen, is going to be waaaaaay closer to a simulation than an arcade game.

Arcade games are friggin boxes with plastic guns that you put money into. I know some of you are using the term "arcade" just to overexaggerate and make SH5 seem worse than it is, but come on!

Even though there may be some little bits than seem unrealistic at this point SH5 will still be more simulation than 99% of games. SH5 is a lot of things, but it is NOT arcade.

Letum · 02-04-10, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boris

Do people even still know what arcade means? SH5, even with all that we've seen, is going to be waaaaaay closer to a simulation than an arcade game.

Well, there is a continuous spectrum all the way from simulator to arcade. It's all relative.

TDK1044 · 02-04-10, 06:53 AM

It's certainly not a sim. Whether it's an arcade game remains to be seen.

Jimbuna · 02-04-10, 07:11 AM

Could yet turn out to be a hybrid....an arcadulator

JScones · 02-04-10, 07:14 AM

Jimbuna, I believe "simulcade" appears to be the new term for such things.

urfisch · 02-04-10, 07:18 AM

its arcade...without mods...

longam · 02-04-10, 07:19 AM

Shooting and killing stuff, I'd call that action.

Mud · 02-04-10, 08:05 AM

Lara Croft without the boobs.

Oh wait .............. modders

Arclight · 02-04-10, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Could yet turn out to be a hybrid....an arcadulator

Here I was thinking that was a given.

Were 3&4 any different? (just asking in general, really)

sergbuto · 02-04-10, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Could yet turn out to be a hybrid....an arcadulator

or sicade, maybe

02-04-10, 02:57 AM	#1
Greyghost Watch Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, La Posts: 26 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Is SH5 even a simulation or arcade? I have been extremely disappointed over the last couple of weeks just as many others have been as well. Now I see the latest bit of info that just irritates me even more and starts to crush the little bit of hope I had left for this sim. According to Ubisoft's own game listing Silent Hunter 5 is not even listed as a Simulation but as, get this, Action, Adventure. I think to myself maybe this is a new way of describing the genre yet low and behold just above it is the game, sorry simulation "Imagine - Sweet 16" I don't won't an arcade game which is one reason I never bothered with "Enigma- Rising Tide" This is just another kick in the...... http://www.ubi.com/US/Games/Search.aspx?cal=cs __________________

02-04-10, 03:22 AM	#4
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	There where some aspects that aspired to realism in all the SH games. There will be some aspects that aspire to realism in SHV. We know already that there are some new features that are not trying to be realistic. That is al that can be said on the matter atm. __________________

02-04-10, 03:22 AM	#5
Mud Captain Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 541 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	If it is arcade then they surely picked the wrong title because it won't fit in the Silent Hunter series. I think the bashing and smashing would be totaly different if it was an other title so we didn t expect a successor of the series, except for the OPS maybe. The fog thickens ........ __________________

02-04-10, 07:11 AM	#9
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,532 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Could yet turn out to be a hybrid....an arcadulator __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

02-04-10, 07:18 AM	#11
urfisch Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Deep down in Germany Posts: 1,969 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	its arcade...without mods... __________________

02-04-10, 03:15 AM	#2
Westbroek Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: LA Posts: 256 Downloads: 121 Uploads: 0	Don't overestimate the expertly researched and immaculately crafted simulator: Best Friends Tonight. I'm sure "Imagine-Sweet 16" is good, but I'm a long time BFT fanboy and it kills me that it's not getting the hype it deserves. No but seriously, yeah, SH5 is an arcade game. Not that that will keep us from talking about it on this Naval Sim forum. Nor should we. Hopefully, with patches, mods, loving care, and a little imagination it will grow up to be a world class (regional class at least) honest to Ra simulator.

02-04-10, 03:18 AM	#3
karamazovnew The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,403 Downloads: 151 Uploads: 0	Unlike SH1, (and SH2 a bit) SH3, SH4 and SH5 are not simulators. They have as many sim features as Half-life has "social-development" features. It's the overall game experience, the tactic and feeling behind it all that makes the games worth playing. SH is almost like Guitar Hero in that respect... easy to pick up, lots of difficulty if you want to, but not "the real thing". My guess is that if you've liked SH3 or SH4, you'll like this one too. And a bit of modding always helps in the end.

02-04-10, 03:50 AM	#6
Boris Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 1,691 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	Do people even still know what arcade means? SH5, even with all that we've seen, is going to be waaaaaay closer to a simulation than an arcade game. Arcade games are friggin boxes with plastic guns that you put money into. I know some of you are using the term "arcade" just to overexaggerate and make SH5 seem worse than it is, but come on! Even though there may be some little bits than seem unrealistic at this point SH5 will still be more simulation than 99% of games. SH5 is a lot of things, but it is NOT arcade.

02-04-10, 06:53 AM	#8
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 2,674 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	It's certainly not a sim. Whether it's an arcade game remains to be seen.

02-04-10, 07:14 AM	#10
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Jimbuna, I believe "simulcade" appears to be the new term for such things.

02-04-10, 07:19 AM	#12
longam Admiral Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,014 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Shooting and killing stuff, I'd call that action.

02-04-10, 08:05 AM	#13
Mud Captain Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 541 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	Lara Croft without the boobs. Oh wait .............. modders __________________