Gun safety, Gun thoughts and Gun Control and my shiny new CZ-75B!

Freiwillige · 01-07-10, 02:35 AM

Having received my third firearm for Christmas, The First being a Polish surplus P-64 by Radom (Gone 2 weeks after I bought it thanks to my ex who decided to trade it to a dealer to support her habbit

) My second a CZ-82 Czech Surplus (Gone 6 weeks after I bought it to a friend\roomate who was to hold on to it for $100 bucks so I could pay rent, When I got paid to get the gun back the next week as was per our deal, he had the gun no longer as he traded it for weed!

) Man drug users are unreliable!

And now I got a CZ-75B for X-mas. I haven't been to the firing range in a bit and thought I would brush up on gun safety. Ive found four effective easy to remember rules.

1.A firearm is always loaded. (Treat it that way)
2.Never point the muzzle at anything you do not wish to destroy.
3.Never put your finger on the trigger until your ready to shoot.
4.Always be aware of your target and whats beyond it.

So now I will talk about the prolific pictures of idiots on the net who fail in most of those rules while posing for pictures. Common errors while looking gangsta for there myspace photo's are pointing gun at camera man\woman. Fingers on the trigger Etc.

One Photo has a guy pointing his new Glock at his GF and you can see the round loaded in the chamber through the barrel and his finger on the trigger! Now anybody who knows Glock knows that the only safety they have is built into the trigger. The only thing to stop that girl from meeting the God of her choice is less than 1" of trigger pull.

So now to the final point of this Topic. I believe in all Americans rights to own a Firearm for sport, protection or the basic exercising of their second amendment rights and from what I have seen gun control doesn't work worth a spit.

So what about having mandatory gun safety classes and a bit of training with each firearms purchase?

Buy a shotgun and have an expert spend an hour with you at the range familiarizing you with the weapon and making sure your competent with it and understand the fundamentals of safety as opposed to all these dumb laws that either take guns away or just give guns away. I mean you have to pass a driving test, why not a firearms responsibility test? Nothing too complex just some basic common sense and firearm familiarity instruction?

Just my thoughts.

Boris · 01-07-10, 03:43 AM

Um, you guys don't have mandatory firearms training for your licence?... You do need a licence right?

Freiwillige · 01-07-10, 04:07 AM

Each state has its own laws but for my State which is one of the most pro gun states (Being the Wild Wild West and all) all you need is an drivers license and your finger prints and they run an instant background check. 20 minutes and no criminal record and you can walk out with a shiny new pistol or rifle or shotgun.

Torvald Von Mansee · 01-07-10, 04:32 AM

I remember seeing on "The First 48" where this one guy was cleared of a murder as it was in self-defense, but was still charged w/a felony for possessing a handgun. So, if he obeyed the law, he might very well be dead.

That, my friends, is what we call BULL****.

(Yes, I know the story is anecdotal, you don't have to point it out, gun controllers)

01-07-10, 05:48 AM

Was there ever a post demonstrating a more irresponsible person who should never be allowed access to firearms.

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Gone 2 weeks after I bought it thanks to my ex who decided to trade it to a dealer to support her habbit

Your gun went to a drugs dealer

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Gone 6 weeks after I bought it to a friend\roomate who was to hold on to it for $100 bucks so I could pay rent, When I got paid to get the gun back the next week as was per our deal, he had the gun no longer as he traded it for weed

Your gun went to a drugs dealer

There you have it kids , next time you read about some junkie doing some armed crime think of their good buddy Freiwillige who likes to facilitate violent crime

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Nothing too complex just some basic common sense

Basic common sense. ........
1.Don't date a junkie. If you are that desperate that you have to date a junkie then don't let them have your gun.....
2.If you really are that desperate for a small amount of cash then sell your gun to a registered arms dealer, don't give it to a junkie as collateral.
3.If you do have severe financial problems, like struggling with basics like keeping a roof over your head then don't waste money on a gun that you obviously didn't need.

CptSimFreak · 01-07-10, 05:51 AM

They are called gunlocks. Use them. Also, change friends.

d@rk51d3 · 01-07-10, 06:57 AM

Just had my application for Cat A, B & C licenses approved.

Now just have to wait till March 13 for my training, and subsequent License.

http://www.sapolice.sa.gov.au/sapol/...f_firearms.jsp

XabbaRus · 01-07-10, 06:59 AM

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Man drug users are unreliable!

So why trust them round your guns?

Lt.Fillipidis · 01-07-10, 07:17 AM

You cant even trust yourself around guns sometimes.
You could have run into serious trouble if that guy had done something with your gun. I dont know about USA laws but in Europe, when handling a gun you have to keep it in its case, disassembled, bullets in their box and carry it ONLY when you go from shooting range to home and vice versa.
Plus, you have to be member of a shooting club for at least two years to earn the right to have a gun. And then you go through psychological tests and a judge.
If you can follow all the above, you're safe from mishandlings.

August · 01-07-10, 10:34 AM

Guess what's gonna happen when one of those guns are used in a crime, say a multiple murder, and they trace it back to you. Hope you've reported the thefts...

NeonSamurai · 01-07-10, 10:41 AM

Ya seriously. You would be in a world of trouble if you lived here and they found out how you lost your first 2.

Sailor Steve · 01-07-10, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Boris

Um, you guys don't have mandatory firearms training for your licence?... You do need a licence right?

To carry a concealed weapon on your person, yes, you need a license and the training that goes with it.

To simply own one, or keep one in your home? No. Not where I live, anyway.

Sailor Steve · 01-07-10, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Lt.Fillipidis

I dont know about USA laws but in Europe, when handling a gun you have to keep it in its case, disassembled, bullets in their box and carry it ONLY when you go from shooting range to home and vice versa.

In that case I don't see much point in owning one. I only have two. One is a 70-year-old rifle I treasure, which is kept locked in a safe place, and the other is a modern pistol I keep just in case I find someone in my home who doesn't belong there.

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Plus, you have to be member of a shooting club for at least two years to earn the right to have a gun. And then you go through psychological tests and a judge.
If you can follow all the above, you're safe from mishandlings.

I than case it's not a right at all, but a privelege granted by those who control you.

Steel_Tomb · 01-07-10, 11:12 AM

I would be a bit worried about those guns that were lost. Like others have said, should those guns be used and the police track it you could be landed in a lot of trouble.

Personally, I would really like to join a shooting club and own a rifle. When I was in cadets I loved shooting and had quite a few marksmen rewards. There seem to be a LOT of regulations regarding firearm ownership in the UK. I'm not complaining, I think to own a firearm is a great responsibility... not just for yourself but for other people.

Perhaps in the future I could be proud owner of a shiny rifle

.

Does anyone from the UK in here own a firearm? Do the licenses/club fees cost a lot?

ajrimmer42 · 01-07-10, 01:01 PM

any pics of your CZ???

Not quite the same I know, but I've just ordered a Tokyo Marui Glock 26 Advance GBB airsoft pistol, damn I can't wait!!!

That's about as close as most of us Brits get.

01-07-10, 02:35 AM	#1
Freiwillige The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phx. Az Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Gun safety, Gun thoughts and Gun Control and my shiny new CZ-75B! Having received my third firearm for Christmas, The First being a Polish surplus P-64 by Radom (Gone 2 weeks after I bought it thanks to my ex who decided to trade it to a dealer to support her habbit) My second a CZ-82 Czech Surplus (Gone 6 weeks after I bought it to a friend\roomate who was to hold on to it for $100 bucks so I could pay rent, When I got paid to get the gun back the next week as was per our deal, he had the gun no longer as he traded it for weed!) Man drug users are unreliable! And now I got a CZ-75B for X-mas. I haven't been to the firing range in a bit and thought I would brush up on gun safety. Ive found four effective easy to remember rules. 1.A firearm is always loaded. (Treat it that way) 2.Never point the muzzle at anything you do not wish to destroy. 3.Never put your finger on the trigger until your ready to shoot. 4.Always be aware of your target and whats beyond it. So now I will talk about the prolific pictures of idiots on the net who fail in most of those rules while posing for pictures. Common errors while looking gangsta for there myspace photo's are pointing gun at camera man\woman. Fingers on the trigger Etc. One Photo has a guy pointing his new Glock at his GF and you can see the round loaded in the chamber through the barrel and his finger on the trigger! Now anybody who knows Glock knows that the only safety they have is built into the trigger. The only thing to stop that girl from meeting the God of her choice is less than 1" of trigger pull. So now to the final point of this Topic. I believe in all Americans rights to own a Firearm for sport, protection or the basic exercising of their second amendment rights and from what I have seen gun control doesn't work worth a spit. So what about having mandatory gun safety classes and a bit of training with each firearms purchase? Buy a shotgun and have an expert spend an hour with you at the range familiarizing you with the weapon and making sure your competent with it and understand the fundamentals of safety as opposed to all these dumb laws that either take guns away or just give guns away. I mean you have to pass a driving test, why not a firearms responsibility test? Nothing too complex just some basic common sense and firearm familiarity instruction? Just my thoughts.

01-07-10, 04:32 AM	#4
Torvald Von Mansee Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: CA4528 Posts: 1,693 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I remember seeing on "The First 48" where this one guy was cleared of a murder as it was in self-defense, but was still charged w/a felony for possessing a handgun. So, if he obeyed the law, he might very well be dead. That, my friends, is what we call BULL****. (Yes, I know the story is anecdotal, you don't have to point it out, gun controllers) __________________ "You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you" - Leon Trotsky

01-07-10, 06:57 AM	#7
d@rk51d3 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 1,951 Downloads: 207 Uploads: 0	Just had my application for Cat A, B & C licenses approved. Now just have to wait till March 13 for my training, and subsequent License. http://www.sapolice.sa.gov.au/sapol/...f_firearms.jsp Last edited by d@rk51d3; 01-07-10 at 07:18 AM.

01-07-10, 10:34 AM	#10
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Guess what's gonna happen when one of those guns are used in a crime, say a multiple murder, and they trace it back to you. Hope you've reported the thefts... __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

01-07-10, 10:41 AM	#11
NeonSamurai Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia Posts: 3,044 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Ya seriously. You would be in a world of trouble if you lived here and they found out how you lost your first 2. __________________ SH3 Newbie Guide Links and other helpfull stuff

01-07-10, 03:43 AM	#2
Boris Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 1,691 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	Um, you guys don't have mandatory firearms training for your licence?... You do need a licence right?

01-07-10, 04:07 AM	#3
Freiwillige The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phx. Az Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Each state has its own laws but for my State which is one of the most pro gun states (Being the Wild Wild West and all) all you need is an drivers license and your finger prints and they run an instant background check. 20 minutes and no criminal record and you can walk out with a shiny new pistol or rifle or shotgun.

01-07-10, 05:51 AM	#6
CptSimFreak Frogman Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 291 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	They are called gunlocks. Use them. Also, change friends.

01-07-10, 07:17 AM	#9
Lt.Fillipidis Weps Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Veria, Greece Posts: 365 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	You cant even trust yourself around guns sometimes. You could have run into serious trouble if that guy had done something with your gun. I dont know about USA laws but in Europe, when handling a gun you have to keep it in its case, disassembled, bullets in their box and carry it ONLY when you go from shooting range to home and vice versa. Plus, you have to be member of a shooting club for at least two years to earn the right to have a gun. And then you go through psychological tests and a judge. If you can follow all the above, you're safe from mishandlings.

01-07-10, 11:12 AM	#14
Steel_Tomb Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cambridgeshire - UK Posts: 1,128 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I would be a bit worried about those guns that were lost. Like others have said, should those guns be used and the police track it you could be landed in a lot of trouble. Personally, I would really like to join a shooting club and own a rifle. When I was in cadets I loved shooting and had quite a few marksmen rewards. There seem to be a LOT of regulations regarding firearm ownership in the UK. I'm not complaining, I think to own a firearm is a great responsibility... not just for yourself but for other people. Perhaps in the future I could be proud owner of a shiny rifle . Does anyone from the UK in here own a firearm? Do the licenses/club fees cost a lot? __________________ _______________________________________________ System Spec: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4Ghz \| 4Gb Corsair XMS2 Dominator DDR2 PC-2 6400 RAM \| XFX GeForce 8800GTS 640mb PCI-E \| Creative X-fi sound card \| 250Gb HDD \| *Rest In Peace Dave, you will be missed.*

01-07-10, 01:01 PM	#15
ajrimmer42 Royal Kinotropist Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 987 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	any pics of your CZ??? Not quite the same I know, but I've just ordered a Tokyo Marui Glock 26 Advance GBB airsoft pistol, damn I can't wait!!! That's about as close as most of us Brits get. __________________ Alex Don't judge a ship by the number of it's guns, but by the skill of it's crew.