The look of an open hatch

Tomas23 · 10-14-09, 05:35 AM

Is it possible to create the illusion of open hatches going into the stern and bow quarters? I know it wouldn't be an 'open hatch mod' because there's nothing beyond the hatches, but couldn't a modder 'repaint' the hatches to look like you're seeing into the next area? That way, when you go into the radio room, instead of seeing a closed hatch, it would look like you're seeing into the bow quarters. Same thing when going aft, you could see into the stern quarters.

Aces · 10-14-09, 08:47 AM

Hi,

A nice idea. If I can find suitable photos I will have a go at this.

Best Regards

Aces

irish1958 · 10-14-09, 08:54 AM

A really good idea!

flakmonkey · 10-14-09, 09:14 AM

I guess you could make a 3d model of the compartment and render it with a veeery wide angle lens, map the resulting image onto a half sphere on the far side of the hatchway, youd get the illusion of depth/perspective rather than just a flat image, and far fewer polys than if you were to add a whle new 3d compartment.

Hitman · 10-14-09, 10:16 AM

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I guess you could make a 3d model of the compartment and render it with a veeery wide angle lens, map the resulting image onto a half sphere on the far side of the hatchway, youd get the illusion of depth/perspective rather than just a flat image, and far fewer polys than if you were to add a whle new 3d compartment.

Pretty good idea

I'd say that unless you get very close it would work OK.

Rapt0r56 · 10-14-09, 11:48 AM

I've tryed this in my Das Boot Interior:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=156831
But I am frustrated by the texture, she was less detailed finally in the boat. So you have to make it with S3D.
Good Luck!

flakmonkey · 10-14-09, 12:37 PM

just testing out the half sphere idea, an image something like this...

mapped onto a half sphere does seem to do the job, obviously id have to texture the model and do a better render but the concept seems sound, and it really does look 3d.

Tomas23 · 10-14-09, 05:16 PM

That looks cool.

Rapt0r56 · 10-15-09, 04:40 AM

Jup, that looks really good, if anyone need an pic from the aft tube you can have this:

Contrast must a bit higher in game.

evan82 · 10-15-09, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapt0r

Jup, that looks really good, if anyone need an pic from the aft tube you can have this:

Contrast must a bit higher in game.

Very interesting thread. Thanks for this picture Rapt0r

. I'l try to use this for the aft hatch in CR in VII interior. In S3D are two nice options for textures: "emissive" and "glossiness" of the texture. Then in the night, the texture emissive light, like the dials.

Rapt0r56 · 10-15-09, 09:28 AM

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Very interesting thread. Thanks for this picture Rapt0r

. I'l try to use this for the aft hatch in CR in VII interior. In S3D are two nice options for textures: "emissive" and "glossiness" of the texture. Then in the night, the texture emissive light, like the dials.

Thanks, i always wanted to have the optics of an look trough the next room, it would really great to see a Mod coming out of this thread.

evan82 · 10-15-09, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapt0r

Thanks, i always wanted to have the optics of an look trough the next room, it would really great to see a Mod coming out of this thread.

This is problem with modding. I don't use WAC or GWX, or something simmilar.

GWX or WAC are good mods, but I am person with my own point of view on SH3. I like to merge files by myself.

And this is problem if I must create or rework mod for GWX, or other super mod. There is a lot of different ID's for nodes in mod files.

Rapt0r56 · 10-16-09, 02:58 AM

I know, you have written that you have so to say your own super mod, but with the main files for Vannilla SH3, we can made it for GWX or WAC. And especially for the new OpenHatch version.

urfisch · 10-16-09, 06:12 AM

i still have a "uffz-room" in 3d...that waits to be put into the game...

dd wanted to test this after finishing the periscope in the control room...but i guess he forgot or found no time. the model is still prepared to be added! but there´re no textures and no lightmaps.

evan82 · 10-17-09, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapt0r

I know, you have written that you have so to say your own super mod

My own super mod? Well. Maybe not so super, but not so bad also

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Thanks anyway

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As to the aft hatch in VII CR I can only use texture. I haven't got any 3D model of the stern quarters

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10-14-09, 05:35 AM	#1
Tomas23 Watch Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 24 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	The look of an open hatch Is it possible to create the illusion of open hatches going into the stern and bow quarters? I know it wouldn't be an 'open hatch mod' because there's nothing beyond the hatches, but couldn't a modder 'repaint' the hatches to look like you're seeing into the next area? That way, when you go into the radio room, instead of seeing a closed hatch, it would look like you're seeing into the bow quarters. Same thing when going aft, you could see into the stern quarters. __________________ The Lee Harvey Oswald Band !

10-14-09, 08:54 AM	#3
irish1958 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 3,250 Downloads: 320 Uploads: 11	A really good idea! __________________ Irish1958

10-14-09, 09:14 AM	#4
flakmonkey Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Staffordshire, Uk Posts: 944 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	I guess you could make a 3d model of the compartment and render it with a veeery wide angle lens, map the resulting image onto a half sphere on the far side of the hatchway, youd get the illusion of depth/perspective rather than just a flat image, and far fewer polys than if you were to add a whle new 3d compartment. __________________

10-14-09, 11:48 AM	#6
Rapt0r56 Commodore Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Düsseldorf, North Rhine-Westphalia — Germany Posts: 601 Downloads: 391 Uploads: 0	I've tryed this in my Das Boot Interior: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=156831 But I am frustrated by the texture, she was less detailed finally in the boat. So you have to make it with S3D. Good Luck! __________________ “The sea is everything. It covers seven tenths of the terrestrial globe. Its breath is pure and healthy. It is an immense desert, where man is never lonely, for he feels life stirring on all sides. The sea is only the embodiment of a supernatural and wonderful existence. It is nothing but love and emotion; it is the Living Infinite. ” ― Jules Verne, Twenty Thousand Leagues Under The Sea My modifications for Ubisoft's SHIII can currently be found in Maik's comprehensive archives found via the Silent Hunter 3 Tab on his website: https://maikhaas.synology.me/joomla/index.php?lang=de/

10-14-09, 12:37 PM	#7
flakmonkey Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Staffordshire, Uk Posts: 944 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	just testing out the half sphere idea, an image something like this... mapped onto a half sphere does seem to do the job, obviously id have to texture the model and do a better render but the concept seems sound, and it really does look 3d. __________________

10-14-09, 08:47 AM	#2
Aces Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,140 Downloads: 211 Uploads: 0	Hi, A nice idea. If I can find suitable photos I will have a go at this. Best Regards Aces

10-14-09, 05:16 PM	#8
Tomas23 Watch Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 24 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	That looks cool. __________________ The Lee Harvey Oswald Band !

10-15-09, 04:40 AM	#9
Rapt0r56 Commodore Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Düsseldorf, North Rhine-Westphalia — Germany Posts: 601 Downloads: 391 Uploads: 0	Jup, that looks really good, if anyone need an pic from the aft tube you can have this: Contrast must a bit higher in game. __________________ “The sea is everything. It covers seven tenths of the terrestrial globe. Its breath is pure and healthy. It is an immense desert, where man is never lonely, for he feels life stirring on all sides. The sea is only the embodiment of a supernatural and wonderful existence. It is nothing but love and emotion; it is the Living Infinite. ” ― Jules Verne, Twenty Thousand Leagues Under The Sea My modifications for Ubisoft's SHIII can currently be found in Maik's comprehensive archives found via the Silent Hunter 3 Tab on his website: https://maikhaas.synology.me/joomla/index.php?lang=de/

10-16-09, 02:58 AM	#13
Rapt0r56 Commodore Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Düsseldorf, North Rhine-Westphalia — Germany Posts: 601 Downloads: 391 Uploads: 0	I know, you have written that you have so to say your own super mod, but with the main files for Vannilla SH3, we can made it for GWX or WAC. And especially for the new OpenHatch version. __________________ “The sea is everything. It covers seven tenths of the terrestrial globe. Its breath is pure and healthy. It is an immense desert, where man is never lonely, for he feels life stirring on all sides. The sea is only the embodiment of a supernatural and wonderful existence. It is nothing but love and emotion; it is the Living Infinite. ” ― Jules Verne, Twenty Thousand Leagues Under The Sea My modifications for Ubisoft's SHIII can currently be found in Maik's comprehensive archives found via the Silent Hunter 3 Tab on his website: https://maikhaas.synology.me/joomla/index.php?lang=de/

10-16-09, 06:12 AM	#14
urfisch Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Deep down in Germany Posts: 1,969 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	i still have a "uffz-room" in 3d...that waits to be put into the game... dd wanted to test this after finishing the periscope in the control room...but i guess he forgot or found no time. the model is still prepared to be added! but there´re no textures and no lightmaps. __________________