Going from XP to Win 7? Maybe not....

Onkel Neal · 07-24-09, 01:03 PM

Move To Windows 7 Will Be Tough

Ok, so, XP forevah!! Rah!

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But Windows XP users, including the millions who have recently snapped up cheap, XP-powered netbooks, will first have to wipe out everything on their hard disks in order to install Windows 7. on their current machines. In fact, Microsoft doesn’t even call migrating to Windows 7 from XP an “upgrade.” It refers to it as a “clean install,” or a “custom installation.” This disk wipeout can be performed manually, or automatically during the Windows 7 installation process.

If you’re an XP user, the disk-wiping will cause you to lose your current file and folder organization, and all your programs, though not necessarily your personal data files themselves.

And the pain doesn’t end there. If you’re an XP user, moving to Windows 7 on your current computer means you will also have to re-install all your programs and restore all the software drivers for your printers and other add-on hardware. That could require locating the original program disks, or downloaded program installers, and then re-downloading and re-installing the numerous updates that have been issued since these original disks or installers came out.

And, there’s another problem: XP hardware drivers won’t work in Windows 7.....

FIREWALL · 07-24-09, 01:09 PM

Very Simple. Partition HDD and Dual Boot. I did and no problems for 2 months so far.

Use printer and other stuff on XP until you get the hang of Win7.

PeriscopeDepth · 07-24-09, 01:09 PM

MS is in a bad place IMO. IIRC, 6/10 businesses are passing on Win7. Vista has left the company with a terrible name. I think they could take a beating from the combined likes of Google, Apple, and the various free Linux distros. It's not a for sure thing, but they are in as shaky as a position as the have been since the early 1990s.

PD

SUBMAN1 · 07-24-09, 01:18 PM

I'd recommend you do this anyway. Upgrades never work right. Always some niggling bug left from the old install.

-S

porphy · 07-24-09, 01:41 PM

Sounds like Mr Mossberg is lazy man...

The recommendation to buy a computer with Win 7 pre-installed to save the hassle seems like a pure plug for people selling this. And everyone knows that most such deals means they install a lot of crap on your computer as well, and that you then will spend time to get rid off it.

I did a clean install of Win 7 RC on a friends laptop yesterday and I was done in two hours maximum, and that included program installs and upgrades. The driver support seems excellent in Win 7 as it found and installed everything on its own. (Remember installing a clean copy of XP? now we are talking fiddling with drivers and software, especially if you had to start from a disc with no sp 1 & 2 included)

I never missed Xp a beat after moving to win 7, I skipped Vista though.

cheers Porphy

Dowly · 07-24-09, 01:58 PM

Bah.. there is an file transfer system you can use so to not lose all your stuff if you go from XP to 7. Yes, the hardware drivers wont work, but geez, I doubt anyone has like 20 different things plugged into their PCs?! It's not like it takes 2 weeks to get your drivers installed.

Still using a 7100 RC build and it's 90% of the time better than XP was.

longam · 07-24-09, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by porphy

Sounds like Mr Mossberg is lazy man...

The recommendation to buy a computer with Win 7 pre-installed to save the hassle seems like a pure plug for people selling this. And everyone knows that most such deals means they install a lot of crap on your computer as well, and that you then will spend time to get rid off it.

I did a clean install of Win 7 RC on a friends laptop yesterday and I was done in two hours maximum, and that included program installs and upgrades. The driver support seems excellent in Win 7 as it found and installed everything on its own. (Remember installing a clean copy of XP? now we are talking fiddling with drivers and software, especially if you had to start from a disc with no sp 1 & 2 included)

I never missed Xp a beat after moving to win 7, I skipped Vista though.

cheers Porphy

Have to agree with you on the drivers. 7 had no problem installing all the drivers of all the printers on the network and for the PC. Of course my documents files were on the server.

Loud_Silence · 07-25-09, 09:27 AM

From that point of view, moving from XP to XP is also a nightmare!

When your installation goes crazy and the only solution is format, you have to install EVERYTHING again, drivers, software... unless you have an unattended XP.

McBeck · 08-13-09, 08:08 AM

Who are these people who would even considering an upgrade?!?!

Always do clean installs...to great a chance of old junk or problems will follow...

mapuc · 08-13-09, 05:47 PM

After a couples of month with Vista, I have now W7

I can play all my old and all the new games i have, without any problems at all.

Markus

Onkel Neal · 10-09-09, 03:44 PM

A Windows to Help You Forget

So, to upgrade from XP, the easiest solution is buy a new HD, make it the master and slave the original with all my files, and format and load Win7 on the new HD. Voila!

Right?

longam · 10-09-09, 05:14 PM

I just hooked my new drive up to an available SATA port, formatted it, then moved it to the first port (where your main drive is now) and moved my main drive to the 2nd port and booted off the CD. no master slave stuff needed with SATA

I can access my data on the old drive, and if I want, swap the connectors and boot from it.

FIREWALL · 10-09-09, 06:09 PM

If that wasn't bad enough then, there's this : http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...612366420.html

bert8for3 · 10-09-09, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

A Windows to Help You Forget

So, to upgrade from XP, the easiest solution is buy a new HD, make it the master and slave the original with all my files, and format and load Win7 on the new HD. Voila!

Right?

IMHO, I would just back up data to an external hard drive (pretty cheap these days). Then reformat and load with Win7 from scratch, which has to be beter than trying an upgrade.

So are people going Win7 on Oct 22? I'd like to ditch XP if only to get recognition of more than ... what is it ... 3 MB RAM?

Onkel Neal · 10-09-09, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bert8for3

IMHO, I would just back up data to an external hard drive (pretty cheap these days). Then reformat and load with Win7 from scratch, which has to be beter than trying an upgrade.

That's what I'm saying, right? Just add a new HD, and load the full version of Win7. You don't need to back anything from your original HD, as longam says, you can still access the files.

Some long time back, on my old PC, my Windows was corrupted and the PC would not boot up. Tried a lot of things, but it would not boot up. So I bought a new, and much larger, HD, made it the master and slaved the original with all my files, and installed XP on the new HD. Computer worked great, all the programs on the old HD with corrupted Windows worked fine.

07-24-09, 01:09 PM	#2
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Very Simple. Partition HDD and Dual Boot. I did and no problems for 2 months so far. Use printer and other stuff on XP until you get the hang of Win7. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

07-24-09, 01:18 PM	#4
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'd recommend you do this anyway. Upgrades never work right. Always some niggling bug left from the old install. -S __________________

07-24-09, 01:41 PM	#5
porphy Commodore Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 603 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Sounds like Mr Mossberg is lazy man... The recommendation to buy a computer with Win 7 pre-installed to save the hassle seems like a pure plug for people selling this. And everyone knows that most such deals means they install a lot of crap on your computer as well, and that you then will spend time to get rid off it. I did a clean install of Win 7 RC on a friends laptop yesterday and I was done in two hours maximum, and that included program installs and upgrades. The driver support seems excellent in Win 7 as it found and installed everything on its own. (Remember installing a clean copy of XP? now we are talking fiddling with drivers and software, especially if you had to start from a disc with no sp 1 & 2 included) I never missed Xp a beat after moving to win 7, I skipped Vista though. cheers Porphy __________________ "The only remedy for madness is the innocence of facts." O. Mirbeu "A paranoid is simply someone in possession of all the facts." W. B.

08-13-09, 08:08 AM	#9
McBeck Admiral Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,023 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Who are these people who would even considering an upgrade?!?! Always do clean installs...to great a chance of old junk or problems will follow... __________________ "I like subcommanders...they dont have time for bull**!" Proud member of the Subsim army of zombies Becks website

10-09-09, 03:44 PM	#11
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,302 Downloads: 534 Uploads: 224	A Windows to Help You Forget So, to upgrade from XP, the easiest solution is buy a new HD, make it the master and slave the original with all my files, and format and load Win7 on the new HD. Voila! Right? __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

07-24-09, 01:09 PM	#3
PeriscopeDepth Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 1,894 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	MS is in a bad place IMO. IIRC, 6/10 businesses are passing on Win7. Vista has left the company with a terrible name. I think they could take a beating from the combined likes of Google, Apple, and the various free Linux distros. It's not a for sure thing, but they are in as shaky as a position as the have been since the early 1990s. PD

07-24-09, 01:58 PM	#6
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,006 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Bah.. there is an file transfer system you can use so to not lose all your stuff if you go from XP to 7. Yes, the hardware drivers wont work, but geez, I doubt anyone has like 20 different things plugged into their PCs?! It's not like it takes 2 weeks to get your drivers installed. Still using a 7100 RC build and it's 90% of the time better than XP was.

07-25-09, 09:27 AM	#8
Loud_Silence Planesman Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 193 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	From that point of view, moving from XP to XP is also a nightmare! When your installation goes crazy and the only solution is format, you have to install EVERYTHING again, drivers, software... unless you have an unattended XP.

08-13-09, 05:47 PM	#10
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 18,278 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	After a couples of month with Vista, I have now W7 I can play all my old and all the new games i have, without any problems at all. Markus

10-09-09, 05:14 PM	#12
longam Admiral Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,014 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	I just hooked my new drive up to an available SATA port, formatted it, then moved it to the first port (where your main drive is now) and moved my main drive to the 2nd port and booted off the CD. no master slave stuff needed with SATA I can access my data on the old drive, and if I want, swap the connectors and boot from it.

10-09-09, 06:09 PM	#13
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	If that wasn't bad enough then, there's this : http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...612366420.html __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???