Advice for noobies

CaptainMattJ. · 09-06-09, 07:16 PM

Heres some advice for any noobs to SH4. NEVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES EEEEEEEEEEEEVER GET AN S CLASS SUBMARINE EVER!!!!! I tried having an S-42 Submarine. It goes 13 knots top speeed, it has No AA, No stern tubes, only 4 bow tubes and crush depth is SIGNIFICANTLY lower. theres no benefit to having an S class. none. never get one ever.

SteamWake · 09-06-09, 07:23 PM

But I love my sugar boats!

They can dive like a led brick and are quite as an owls flight

Honestly I do like the S boats alot.

Armistead · 09-06-09, 08:23 PM

I love using them at the start of the war. Think they have beautiful lines.
I'll use one until I get a gato and stop there.

It's smart to learn to live in one, will make you a wise skipper.

Rockin Robbins · 09-06-09, 08:48 PM

I love my sugar boat for its 10 knot submerged speed and its stealthiness. Highly effective boat. By the way a questionnaire posed to sub captains after the war revealed that most of them thought stern torpedoes were a waste of resources.

Highbury · 09-06-09, 09:19 PM

Love the Sugar Boats, and prefer not having stern tubes.. to each their own I guess

Task Force · 09-06-09, 09:25 PM

S class boats are actualy quite good little boats. reminds me of a IIA...

CaptainMattJ. · 09-06-09, 09:37 PM

WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!? ALL boats go 9 knots submerged!!!!!!!!!!!!! and stern torpedoes are VERy effective VS DD and S boats Have only 8 reserve torpedoes. Highly Effective Pfffftt. that ting cant dive Deep! i tried diving 80 m with FULL health 0 Dmg to hull And i die. Are u serious? and it only goes 13 knots FULL on surface. All boats go 9 knots underwater At flank. S boat sucks. ACCEPT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you shouldnt even use it in beggining of war. AWFUL AWFUL AWFULLLLLLLLLLLLL! and you dont stand a CHANCE against air, and that deck gun is available to ALL other boats. ACcept it it Sucks Major nuts and it should be BAnned from the game FOR ALL ETERNITYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYy. Stealth? Pftttttt. All boats are sTealthy thats the point of the submarine. i May not have actual Battled other ships with it but I dont haVE TOO. ePIC faiiiiiiiiilL. You Get more torpedoes w/ other boats. its A waste of TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

Task Force · 09-06-09, 09:40 PM

hmm... well thats your opinion.. but i think the S boats are actualy quite fun... (you think those 20mm guns can shoot stuff down... lol... you must be playing stock...)

CaptainMattJ. · 09-06-09, 09:48 PM

those 20mm have snagged me some merchies at least and i didnt have to waste DEck gun ammo. i know no US sub can take a plane.....i Cant. only in a Uboat can the AA be used for its ORIGINAL purpose

Task Force · 09-06-09, 10:07 PM

... in real life 1 20mm with the ammount of aamo sh4 gives you could sink a merchent... unless it ignites some freight that is explosive...

DigitalAura · 09-07-09, 09:28 AM

I agree with the poster from what I've played with the S boat (like 2 missions) that it is significantly more frustrating...

it just goes to show what our veterans here are capable of: they could sail a floating piece of ... flotsam, yeah... flotsam. And still fight a good war with it.

It's all in experience...I have to salute you guys who can find strengths in such things that we can only see weaknesses.

Torplexed · 09-07-09, 09:56 AM

S-Boats rule!

They have torpedoes that actually work.

SteamWake · 09-07-09, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torplexed

S-Boats rule!

They have torpedoes that actually work.

LOL then they start 'charging' you for ones that do !

Subnuts · 09-07-09, 10:45 AM

S-boats are awesome. You fleet-boat snobs just don't know how fight with a real submarine.

CaptainMattJ. · 09-07-09, 12:01 PM

Well then ok that Opinion. If you like a MAAAAAAAAAAJOr challange then ok. if however your say a NOOBIe as this thread suggests then You shouldnt get an s boat until you have mastered gameplay. think about it. noobies cant learn how to truly master a boat with a boat with limited features. let him take in ALL aspects of SH4, Then he can decide he wants an S class. but the fact remains that the s class is NOT as good as the other submarines and in MY opinion they Suck but if wanteda challenge id use that thing the entire career

09-06-09, 07:16 PM	#1
CaptainMattJ. The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sin City Posts: 1,364 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	Advice for noobies Heres some advice for any noobs to SH4. NEVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES EEEEEEEEEEEEVER GET AN S CLASS SUBMARINE EVER!!!!! I tried having an S-42 Submarine. It goes 13 knots top speeed, it has No AA, No stern tubes, only 4 bow tubes and crush depth is SIGNIFICANTLY lower. theres no benefit to having an S class. none. never get one ever.

09-06-09, 07:23 PM	#2
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	But I love my sugar boats! They can dive like a led brick and are quite as an owls flight Honestly I do like the S boats alot. __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

09-06-09, 08:48 PM	#4
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	I love my sugar boat for its 10 knot submerged speed and its stealthiness. Highly effective boat. By the way a questionnaire posed to sub captains after the war revealed that most of them thought stern torpedoes were a waste of resources. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

09-06-09, 09:25 PM	#6
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	S class boats are actualy quite good little boats. reminds me of a IIA... __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

09-06-09, 09:40 PM	#8
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	hmm... well thats your opinion.. but i think the S boats are actualy quite fun... (you think those 20mm guns can shoot stuff down... lol... you must be playing stock...) __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

09-06-09, 08:23 PM	#3
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I love using them at the start of the war. Think they have beautiful lines. I'll use one until I get a gato and stop there. It's smart to learn to live in one, will make you a wise skipper.

09-06-09, 09:19 PM	#5
Highbury The Old Man Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: 51.557, -0.102 Posts: 1,311 Downloads: 177 Uploads: 0	Love the Sugar Boats, and prefer not having stern tubes.. to each their own I guess

09-06-09, 09:37 PM	#7
CaptainMattJ. The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sin City Posts: 1,364 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!? ALL boats go 9 knots submerged!!!!!!!!!!!!! and stern torpedoes are VERy effective VS DD and S boats Have only 8 reserve torpedoes. Highly Effective Pfffftt. that ting cant dive Deep! i tried diving 80 m with FULL health 0 Dmg to hull And i die. Are u serious? and it only goes 13 knots FULL on surface. All boats go 9 knots underwater At flank. S boat sucks. ACCEPT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you shouldnt even use it in beggining of war. AWFUL AWFUL AWFULLLLLLLLLLLLL! and you dont stand a CHANCE against air, and that deck gun is available to ALL other boats. ACcept it it Sucks Major nuts and it should be BAnned from the game FOR ALL ETERNITYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYy. Stealth? Pftttttt. All boats are sTealthy thats the point of the submarine. i May not have actual Battled other ships with it but I dont haVE TOO. ePIC faiiiiiiiiilL. You Get more torpedoes w/ other boats. its A waste of TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

09-06-09, 09:48 PM	#9
CaptainMattJ. The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sin City Posts: 1,364 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	those 20mm have snagged me some merchies at least and i didnt have to waste DEck gun ammo. i know no US sub can take a plane.....i Cant. only in a Uboat can the AA be used for its ORIGINAL purpose

09-06-09, 10:07 PM	#10
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	... in real life 1 20mm with the ammount of aamo sh4 gives you could sink a merchent... unless it ignites some freight that is explosive... __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

09-07-09, 09:28 AM	#11
DigitalAura Straight and True Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: CANADA Posts: 276 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I agree with the poster from what I've played with the S boat (like 2 missions) that it is significantly more frustrating... it just goes to show what our veterans here are capable of: they could sail a floating piece of ... flotsam, yeah... flotsam. And still fight a good war with it. It's all in experience...I have to salute you guys who can find strengths in such things that we can only see weaknesses. __________________ ... ALL YOUR BEACH ARE BELONG TO US! ...

09-07-09, 09:56 AM	#12
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	S-Boats rule! They have torpedoes that actually work.

09-07-09, 10:45 AM	#14
Subnuts The Old Man Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,658 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	S-boats are awesome. You fleet-boat snobs just don't know how fight with a real submarine. __________________ My Amazon.com reviews

09-07-09, 12:01 PM	#15
CaptainMattJ. The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sin City Posts: 1,364 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	Well then ok that Opinion. If you like a MAAAAAAAAAAJOr challange then ok. if however your say a NOOBIe as this thread suggests then You shouldnt get an s boat until you have mastered gameplay. think about it. noobies cant learn how to truly master a boat with a boat with limited features. let him take in ALL aspects of SH4, Then he can decide he wants an S class. but the fact remains that the s class is NOT as good as the other submarines and in MY opinion they Suck but if wanteda challenge id use that thing the entire career