U.S. Says Pakistan Made Changes to Missiles Sold for Defense

Skybird · 08-31-09, 04:55 AM

The US accuses her trustworthy ally Pakistan to have modified Harpoon missiles sold to Pakistan for naval defence in the 80s, into missiles capable to strike land targets in India.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/30/wo...e.html?_r=1&hp

Well, what do you expect if you sell weapons to such a trustworthy country like pakistan...?

You could as well sell conventional missiles to North Korea - and then claim to be surprised when they make a Mach-5-return-to-sender with a nuclear device on them.

expectations that you can order a customer how to use the weapons you sell to him, and when not to use them, is as absurd as the German government being "surprised" to learn that their demand that German tanks and IFVs delivered to Turkey should not be used against the Kurds, has not been met by the Turkish government. Of course it turned out that they used weapons they got from Germany against the Kurds - from the trooper's assault rifle up to IFVs and tanks.

Congress is asked to approve another 7.5 billion dollars in aid for Pakistan. america has not learned anything, regarding Pakistan. It still pays for getting betrayed. Good ammounts of money payed in past years has ended up to pay for weapons that ISI-supported Taliban now fire at US troops. Go ahead, pay them more. They enjoy to play the victim - while stabbing you from behind.

Dear West, dear US: learn the lesson fast, and learn it well: Pakistan is not our ally, and it nevers has been. It is the enemy. The major part of it'S military leadership as well as the majority of it'S intel community must be seen as hostiles.

P.S. in this context: the commanding general of Us forces in Afghanistan declares US strategy as a failure and compares the US war to a bull charging for the matador, collecting cuts each time it does:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8230017.stm

The consequences and changes that he suggests, may be okay. But they must be accompanied by striking much harder at support for the Taliban in Pakistan, and starting to kill (either by strikes or assassination) commanding figures in the Pakistani intel and military hierarchy who are collaborating with the Taliban and supporting them. It goes without saying that all further payments to Pakistan mujst be stopped. You could as well deliver weapons and ammunition to the Taliban, or order the US Navy to start shelling India.

08-31-09, 05:27 AM

Best defense is nuking the enemy before he nukes you, they obviously understand this.

MothBalls · 08-31-09, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Congress is asked to approve another 7.5 billion dollars in aid for Pakistan. america has not learned anything, regarding Pakistan. It still pays for getting betrayed. Good ammounts of money payed in past years has ended up to pay for weapons that ISI-supported Taliban now fire at US troops. Go ahead, pay them more. They enjoy to play the victim - while stabbing you from behind.

Years ago the US used to manufacturer goods and export them to other countries. Even oil was an export. WWII changed everything. All of the industries were retooled for war. The country prospered from the lend-lease act and the fat cats loved it. It hasn't changed since.

Now look at what the US exports. Financial derivatives, imaginary assets that amount to nothing. We can't even manufacture anything cheap enough to sell to ourselves. So what is our major export? War. If people thought our the US economy was going to collapse when the auto industry started to fail, what do you think would happen if the defense industry failed?

Ever notice that the US is ALWAYS AT WAR with someone. Every night on our news we fear monger about a threat somewhere in the world. North Korea, the Taliban, etc. doesn't matter. Always find an enemy to make sure that war machine is fed. Keep the public in fear with news broadcasts and convince them we need better weapons. If an enemy can't be found, or if they don't do anything to provoke us, we'll make up a reason to attack. (Iraq anyone?)

This isn't 7.5 billion in "aid". They won't see a dime of it. It isn't even real money, it's debt our grandchildren will be paying for. It is 7.5 billion paid to the US defense industry by congressman lining their pockets with kickbacks and campaign contributions.

08-31-09, 04:55 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	U.S. Says Pakistan Made Changes to Missiles Sold for Defense The US accuses her trustworthy ally Pakistan to have modified Harpoon missiles sold to Pakistan for naval defence in the 80s, into missiles capable to strike land targets in India. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/30/wo...e.html?_r=1&hp Well, what do you expect if you sell weapons to such a trustworthy country like pakistan...? You could as well sell conventional missiles to North Korea - and then claim to be surprised when they make a Mach-5-return-to-sender with a nuclear device on them. expectations that you can order a customer how to use the weapons you sell to him, and when not to use them, is as absurd as the German government being "surprised" to learn that their demand that German tanks and IFVs delivered to Turkey should not be used against the Kurds, has not been met by the Turkish government. Of course it turned out that they used weapons they got from Germany against the Kurds - from the trooper's assault rifle up to IFVs and tanks. Congress is asked to approve another 7.5 billion dollars in aid for Pakistan. america has not learned anything, regarding Pakistan. It still pays for getting betrayed. Good ammounts of money payed in past years has ended up to pay for weapons that ISI-supported Taliban now fire at US troops. Go ahead, pay them more. They enjoy to play the victim - while stabbing you from behind. Dear West, dear US: learn the lesson fast, and learn it well: Pakistan is not our ally, and it nevers has been. It is the enemy. The major part of it'S military leadership as well as the majority of it'S intel community must be seen as hostiles. P.S. in this context: the commanding general of Us forces in Afghanistan declares US strategy as a failure and compares the US war to a bull charging for the matador, collecting cuts each time it does: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8230017.stm The consequences and changes that he suggests, may be okay. But they must be accompanied by striking much harder at support for the Taliban in Pakistan, and starting to kill (either by strikes or assassination) commanding figures in the Pakistani intel and military hierarchy who are collaborating with the Taliban and supporting them. It goes without saying that all further payments to Pakistan mujst be stopped. You could as well deliver weapons and ammunition to the Taliban, or order the US Navy to start shelling India. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 08-31-09 at 05:08 AM.

08-31-09, 05:27 AM	#2
Rilder Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Best defense is nuking the enemy before he nukes you, they obviously understand this.