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Old 07-24-09, 10:08 PM   #1
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She's brought shame on THEM for being raped.....
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Old 07-24-09, 10:13 PM   #2
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It is a culture quite different from ours.

A very sad story. Glad they caught the criminals. I hope the girl can recover the best she can.
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Old 07-24-09, 10:14 PM   #3
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The kind to leave an 8 year old girl alone and unsupervised.
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Those are worthless parents.
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When I read that a few hours ago I got so angry, having a daughter close to that age myself. And the cops claim they committed no crime by disowning her. Rubbish. Treating a small child as a mere possession for the sake of your honour, with no inherent value of her own, is child abuse. And child abuse is a crime.

Those freaks should be deported.
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Old 07-25-09, 05:32 AM   #6
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It is a culture quite different from ours.

A very sad story. Glad they caught the criminals. I hope the girl can recover the best she can.
Admitted, I would not be surprised if the people came from north Africa or the middle East. But fact is the article did not mention the origin of the family - and crimes against children, child abuse and rape take place in Western societies as well. It's just that the Western society in general is not forgiving such crimes, and instead takes a legal stand against them, whereas some other cultures remain silent about it, or even defend it - or even foster it, as to be seen in comments of Khomenei who excused raping babies as long as no deep penetration takes place and the adult male takes pleasure from it. In some "cultures" the cultural focus is exclusively on that latter part: males taking pleasure from consuming others, including women, girls, babies.

This difference of taking a stand against such crimes, and silently or actively accepting them, is what sets our culture apart from "theirs", and makes our culture superior to theirs, while theirs is a culture only in that it is more primitive, barbaric and inhumane than ours.

So, what is this posting about? To make clear that simply saying "it is a culture quite different from ours" - simply is not enough, means nothing, and only reduces our own cultural value in order to not upset those who are more primitive than us.

If you meant it that way, take this as my rebuffing answer. If I reacted over-sensible to you and you meant something different, see it as a preemptive reaction. Cultural relativising takes place so often today, and always to the disadvantage of ours, and it ennobles the barbary of others instead, that I react allergic to it. People are not all of the same worth, and cultures are not all of the same worth, too. Saying that is a provocation today - because it expresses an unwanted truth that most people try so hard to hide. They fear conflict and confrontation more than anything else, even more than the loss of their freedom - and thus try to reject that there are any differences at all, so that that proclaimed, total uniformity shall lead to peaceful utopia and - tolerance. That is ironic, because that is a contradiction. Because where there are not differences - you cannot tolerate anything anymore. Because then you cannot define "yourself" in separation from the "other", and cannot define what you will to tolerate in the other - and what not. It's not about being intolerant in order to show differences that prove one's own superiority in values, it is about understanding that toleranc needs to have limits and should not be abused for refusing all difference in order to create the illusion that this would be what guarantees "peace". It does not, quite the opposite is true. Being infinitely tolerant, in the end that is a state of where people say there is nothing worth to stand up for and there is nothing worth to be defended - not even freedom. And peace without freedom is nothing: just - most likely - tyranny.

Many talk of infinite ammounts of tolerance and paying respect to what is not respectable at all. They declare doing so a high moral virtue. And then even barbary becomes negotiable.

Such are the sick lessons major parts of politicians try to hammer into our brains today.
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Old 07-25-09, 06:38 AM   #7
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Excuse me if I interpret this extremely sad and serious business in a distinctly methodical way.....

An 8 year old child is simply that....a child.

Parents have a responsibility and a duty of care to their offspring.

This act was carried out in the USA.

This child was below the legal age of consent.

Unless I'm missing something of fundamental importance here, that constitutes the crime of rape.

Regardless of cultural beliefs, the parents are failing in there duty of care now.

Anyone residing in a country is subject to the laws of said country.

I don't know and understand the laws of America as well as I understand those in the UK but if the above crime had been committed in the UK the parents would very likely be prosecuted for the offences of child abandonment, neglect, cruelty and failing in their duty of care.

The child would be taken into protective care and housed with foster parents.

I hope the youngster recovers and is able to lead as normal a life as possible in the future.

As a parent of a daughter I'd probably be charged with having committed some serious offence shortly after the boys were released.
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Old 07-25-09, 09:03 AM   #8
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The parents are from Liberia, a stunning example of a failed nation if there ever was.

Here is a kicker: In Liberia rape became illegal in the year...........2006!

http://www.iss.co.za/index.php?link_...e=12&tmpl_id=3

Previous laws only applied to gang rape.

http://www.irinnews.org/Report.aspx?ReportId=62311

Pretty sad
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When I read that a few hours ago I got so angry, having a daughter close to that age myself. And the cops claim they committed no crime by disowning her. Rubbish. Treating a small child as a mere possession for the sake of your honour, with no inherent value of her own, is child abuse. And child abuse is a crime.

Those freaks should be deported.
I thought it would be child abandonment?? They should be locked up after what they have done to their daughter. To say these things when she needs them most!
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When I read that a few hours ago I got so angry, having a daughter close to that age myself. And the cops claim they committed no crime by disowning her. Rubbish. Treating a small child as a mere possession for the sake of your honour, with no inherent value of her own, is child abuse. And child abuse is a crime.

Those freaks should be deported.
Deportation is riddled with red tape and is far too expensive. Bullets, on the other hand, are $25 a box and the effect is immediate.

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Old 07-29-09, 05:02 PM   #12
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Can only hope there isn't any other minor children or pets in that household.

The parents aren't fit to care for either.
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