FPS issue make this game unplayable.

SgtPotato · 06-15-09, 10:21 PM

Everything was fine since I bought this game, plus the addon, and three days ago, I added the GFM. The FPS was great, somehow in between 90 to 140 fps. Yesterday, Something went wrong. When I went to the external view, it went to 30 fps between 19 fps. I tried to go to the map room and I tried to speeding up the time. It dropped to 1 fps. Also, I exited the game to windows and I got the crashing error.

I tried uninstall and reinstalling it after I make the backup for save files. No luck. So, I tried to look up in this forum and found out about the killer ploygon/evironmental effect issue. I tried to turn it off and still the same problem. Any ideas?

My spec is:
Video Card: ATI Raedon HD4870 1GB
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.6GHz
RAM: 4094MB RAM
Hard Drive: 300 GB
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.lh_sp2rtm.090410-1830)

Akula4745 · 06-15-09, 10:46 PM

It is probably not your system... it sounds like to me you might have some mod soup going on there... I did the same thing at first when I started using mods. Mod soup will drive your graphics card absolutely crazy... are you using a bunch of mods?

If so try removing them all. Get a clean install. Then add big mods first and minor ones last... check after adding each one to find the culprit. Good luck.

SgtPotato · 06-15-09, 10:53 PM

I used only Game Fixes Only Mod (plus the GFO Snorkel Name Fix) and that's it.

XTBilly · 06-16-09, 01:06 AM

30 fps with the 4870 1GB????

I'm getting 120-200 fps with the same card...

Does this happen at a specific location, time?
Have you tried reloading the game in port?

Arclight · 06-16-09, 03:13 AM

Since the FPS gets killed with TC, I'd guess something's up with the CPU. If it doesn't run properly without mods, try running it on just 1 core (you can set "affinity" for the process in the taskmanger).

You running 64 or 32 bit OS? Is the game installed in program files (default folder) or somewhere else?

Armistead · 06-16-09, 06:33 AM

Did you make a back up or your original game data files? If so, wouldn't take long to switch it out and see what happens.

I ran GFO for a week with less of a system with no problems.

Pain as it is, I would try running the original game first and see what happens.

Have you tried other games with any problems?

Rockin Robbins · 06-16-09, 07:32 AM

I've had no frame rate problems with any of the major supermods, and I have a vastly lesser system with my 7600GT based system. I vote for mod soup somehow.

It's usually not worth trying to figure out how the mod soup happened. Rebuild and play. The problem will be mysteriously fixed. It's like rebooting your computer. You have no idea what was wrong but you fixed it which makes you a genius!

SgtPotato · 06-16-09, 08:09 AM

I'm using the 64-bit and I bought this game from Steam, so it is in the steam folder where the games are. It just happened when I was in japan for a patrol, near tokyo.

SteamWake · 06-16-09, 08:25 AM

You dident hit a spot wit dozens upon dozens of ship textures loading did you? If so it should pass eventually.

also as mentioned above it sounds like some process is hogging cpu cycles try looking at what or how many processes you are running and try to thin it out a little.

Lastley its entirely possible your video card is going bye bye. Do other games and or bench marks show poor performance?

Arclight · 06-16-09, 08:28 AM

I'm not sure, but I seem to recall that SH (3 or 4?) can act up if it's installed in the "program files" folder when running 64-bit Win. I'm guessing that's where Steam defaults to for install as well.

RR, you know about this? Is it a possibility besides mod-soup? I'm not too familiar with SH troubleshooting to be honest.

irish1958 · 06-16-09, 08:45 AM

Try AlacrityPC (www.alacritypc.com) to turn off everything not needed to run the game.
If that solves the problem, something is hogging your CPU.
If it doesn't, run a new install of SHIV; if OK it is a mod mix.
If not OK, price new video cards as it is probably the problem

Rockin Robbins · 06-16-09, 09:55 AM

I use EndItAll when I need to terminate processes in one keypress. But I'm able to run SH4 at decent framerates with a truly scary list of programs running in my tray.

It's not impossible for another program to steal enough clock cycles to kill your framerate, but it's likely to be a single application doing that. Tell you what.

Alt-tab out of SH4. Press ctrl-alt-delete and bring up your task manager. Choose the processes tab and check out the CPU column, which shows the percentage of CPU utilization by process. System Idle Process is not a true process, but unused clock cycles, so disregard this. Is any other process hogging your CPU? You can terminate it right from Task Manager. Chances are you won't find any guilty parties there and will be back to eating mod soup. Yum!

SteamWake · 06-16-09, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

I use EndItAll when I need to terminate processes in one keypress. But I'm able to run SH4 at decent framerates with a truly scary list of programs running in my tray.

It's not impossible for another program to steal enough clock cycles to kill your framerate, but it's likely to be a single application doing that. Tell you what.

Alt-tab out of SH4. Press ctrl-alt-delete and bring up your task manager. Choose the processes tab and check out the CPU column, which shows the percentage of CPU utilization by process. System Idle Process is not a true process, but unused clock cycles, so disregard this. Is any other process hogging your CPU? You can terminate it right from Task Manager. Chances are you won't find any guilty parties there and will be back to eating mod soup. Yum!

Ummm its vista

AVGWarhawk · 06-16-09, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteamWake

You dident hit a spot wit dozens upon dozens of ship textures loading did you? If so it should pass eventually.

also as mentioned above it sounds like some process is hogging cpu cycles try looking at what or how many processes you are running and try to thin it out a little.

Lastley its entirely possible your video card is going bye bye. Do other games and or bench marks show poor performance?

I would look here as well. For the game to just out of the blue start act like you describe I'm inclined to believe it is a hardware issue.

SgtPotato · 06-16-09, 01:53 PM

The CPU is fine, but I noticed that it used 3.11 GB of 4 GB ram. Is that bad?

06-15-09, 10:21 PM	#1
SgtPotato Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: In your ocean, sinking your ships Posts: 721 Downloads: 96 Uploads: 0	FPS issue make this game unplayable. Everything was fine since I bought this game, plus the addon, and three days ago, I added the GFM. The FPS was great, somehow in between 90 to 140 fps. Yesterday, Something went wrong. When I went to the external view, it went to 30 fps between 19 fps. I tried to go to the map room and I tried to speeding up the time. It dropped to 1 fps. Also, I exited the game to windows and I got the crashing error. I tried uninstall and reinstalling it after I make the backup for save files. No luck. So, I tried to look up in this forum and found out about the killer ploygon/evironmental effect issue. I tried to turn it off and still the same problem. Any ideas? My spec is: Video Card: ATI Raedon HD4870 1GB CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.6GHz RAM: 4094MB RAM Hard Drive: 300 GB Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.lh_sp2rtm.090410-1830)

06-15-09, 10:46 PM	#2
Akula4745 Convicted Ship Killer Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Just out of sight... plotting your course and speed Posts: 846 Downloads: 371 Uploads: 1	It is probably not your system... it sounds like to me you might have some mod soup going on there... I did the same thing at first when I started using mods. Mod soup will drive your graphics card absolutely crazy... are you using a bunch of mods? If so try removing them all. Get a clean install. Then add big mods first and minor ones last... check after adding each one to find the culprit. Good luck. __________________ Akula4745 "If you sit by the river long enough... the body of your enemy will float by -- SunTzu"

06-16-09, 03:13 AM	#5
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Since the FPS gets killed with TC, I'd guess something's up with the CPU. If it doesn't run properly without mods, try running it on just 1 core (you can set "affinity" for the process in the taskmanger). You running 64 or 32 bit OS? Is the game installed in program files (default folder) or somewhere else? __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

06-16-09, 07:32 AM	#7
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	I've had no frame rate problems with any of the major supermods, and I have a vastly lesser system with my 7600GT based system. I vote for mod soup somehow. It's usually not worth trying to figure out how the mod soup happened. Rebuild and play. The problem will be mysteriously fixed. It's like rebooting your computer. You have no idea what was wrong but you fixed it which makes you a genius! __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

06-16-09, 08:25 AM	#9
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	You dident hit a spot wit dozens upon dozens of ship textures loading did you? If so it should pass eventually. also as mentioned above it sounds like some process is hogging cpu cycles try looking at what or how many processes you are running and try to thin it out a little. Lastley its entirely possible your video card is going bye bye. Do other games and or bench marks show poor performance? __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

06-15-09, 10:53 PM	#3
SgtPotato Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: In your ocean, sinking your ships Posts: 721 Downloads: 96 Uploads: 0	I used only Game Fixes Only Mod (plus the GFO Snorkel Name Fix) and that's it.

06-16-09, 01:06 AM	#4
XTBilly Officer Join Date: May 2009 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 242 Downloads: 157 Uploads: 0	30 fps with the 4870 1GB???? I'm getting 120-200 fps with the same card... Does this happen at a specific location, time? Have you tried reloading the game in port?

06-16-09, 06:33 AM	#6
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Did you make a back up or your original game data files? If so, wouldn't take long to switch it out and see what happens. I ran GFO for a week with less of a system with no problems. Pain as it is, I would try running the original game first and see what happens. Have you tried other games with any problems?

06-16-09, 08:09 AM	#8
SgtPotato Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: In your ocean, sinking your ships Posts: 721 Downloads: 96 Uploads: 0	I'm using the 64-bit and I bought this game from Steam, so it is in the steam folder where the games are. It just happened when I was in japan for a patrol, near tokyo.

06-16-09, 08:28 AM	#10
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	I'm not sure, but I seem to recall that SH (3 or 4?) can act up if it's installed in the "program files" folder when running 64-bit Win. I'm guessing that's where Steam defaults to for install as well. RR, you know about this? Is it a possibility besides mod-soup? I'm not too familiar with SH troubleshooting to be honest. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

06-16-09, 08:45 AM	#11
irish1958 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 3,250 Downloads: 320 Uploads: 11	Try AlacrityPC (www.alacritypc.com) to turn off everything not needed to run the game. If that solves the problem, something is hogging your CPU. If it doesn't, run a new install of SHIV; if OK it is a mod mix. If not OK, price new video cards as it is probably the problem __________________ Irish1958

06-16-09, 09:55 AM	#12
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	I use EndItAll when I need to terminate processes in one keypress. But I'm able to run SH4 at decent framerates with a truly scary list of programs running in my tray. It's not impossible for another program to steal enough clock cycles to kill your framerate, but it's likely to be a single application doing that. Tell you what. Alt-tab out of SH4. Press ctrl-alt-delete and bring up your task manager. Choose the processes tab and check out the CPU column, which shows the percentage of CPU utilization by process. System Idle Process is not a true process, but unused clock cycles, so disregard this. Is any other process hogging your CPU? You can terminate it right from Task Manager. Chances are you won't find any guilty parties there and will be back to eating mod soup. Yum! __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

06-16-09, 01:53 PM	#15
SgtPotato Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: In your ocean, sinking your ships Posts: 721 Downloads: 96 Uploads: 0	The CPU is fine, but I noticed that it used 3.11 GB of 4 GB ram. Is that bad?