Alternative to Dangerous Water?

jrivett · 06-29-08, 06:39 PM

Hello, I've been playing DW for a while now and while I see from the forums that you hardcore sim types really like it, I'm afraid it's not what I'm looking for.

Here's what I want: Dangerous Waters, but with autocrew sonarmen that can actually do their jobs. I started doing a bit of research here and on other foums when I ran into problems with the DW sonar autocrew and what people seem to be saying is a) why would you want to use sonar autocrew when it's so much fun to do yourself; b) you're not really looking for an accurate sim if you're using autocrews; and the surprising c) a human player manning the sonar stations is always going to do a better job than the autocrew.

My responses to these comments are: a) sure it can be fun but I still don't want to be forced to do it; b) I want as much accuracy and realism as possible without actually having to man the individual stations (in other words, I want to run the sim as the CAPTAIN); and c) then the sim is broken, since a civilian sitting in his basement running a sim on his computer is never going to be as good at the job as a real life sonarman, no matter what he might think.

You should know that I have read all the relevant sections of the manual and done the tutorials. I know how best to help the sonar autocrew do their job. But it's never enough. They report contacts but never seem to classify or identify them.

Taking all that into consideration, is there a sim out there that's as realistic as Dangerous Waters but with autocrews (particularly the sonar autocrew) that are at least competent?

06-29-08, 06:39 PM	#1
jrivett Swabbie Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Alternative to Dangerous Water? Hello, I've been playing DW for a while now and while I see from the forums that you hardcore sim types really like it, I'm afraid it's not what I'm looking for. Here's what I want: Dangerous Waters, but with autocrew sonarmen that can actually do their jobs. I started doing a bit of research here and on other foums when I ran into problems with the DW sonar autocrew and what people seem to be saying is a) why would you want to use sonar autocrew when it's so much fun to do yourself; b) you're not really looking for an accurate sim if you're using autocrews; and the surprising c) a human player manning the sonar stations is always going to do a better job than the autocrew. My responses to these comments are: a) sure it can be fun but I still don't want to be forced to do it; b) I want as much accuracy and realism as possible without actually having to man the individual stations (in other words, I want to run the sim as the CAPTAIN); and c) then the sim is broken, since a civilian sitting in his basement running a sim on his computer is never going to be as good at the job as a real life sonarman, no matter what he might think. You should know that I have read all the relevant sections of the manual and done the tutorials. I know how best to help the sonar autocrew do their job. But it's never enough. They report contacts but never seem to classify or identify them. Taking all that into consideration, is there a sim out there that's as realistic as Dangerous Waters but with autocrews (particularly the sonar autocrew) that are at least competent?