Fatal Nascar crash in Mexico

stabiz · 06-15-09, 03:27 PM

I know its easy to point out stuff after something happens, but wtf where the track designers thinking here? RIP, mr Pardo.

PS: Likely disturbing to watch.

AVGWarhawk · 06-15-09, 03:47 PM

Well, he got tagged in the left rear quarter panel that caused the spin and the concrete wall was not placed very well at all. In fact the placement sucked. If I were the driver that tagged him I would not be feeling to good about myself.

06-15-09, 03:48 PM

It looks as if he hit the water barrier, which is what it is designed for. Its certainly a tragedy and I cannot understand what the voice-over is saying, but from the tarp used to place him in the helicopter, for better or worse he died on impact.

Schroeder · 06-15-09, 03:48 PM

So much for track safety.

AVGWarhawk · 06-15-09, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CastleBravo

It looks as if he hit the water barrier, which is what it is designed for. Its certainly a tragedy and I cannot understand what the voice-over is saying, but from the tarp used to place him in the helicopter, for better or worse he died on impact.

Water barrier+180 mph= useless. Dead on impact, certaily. There was less then a milli-second of impact absorption by the water barrier. He took the full brunt of it.

SteamWake · 06-15-09, 04:01 PM

Isnt this a 'modern' track?

There was a quote after daytona "Were going to race like this untill someone dies" sadly prophetic.

After watching the video I can see the problem. Dead end walls on tracksides is a bad bad idea. It should be at least angled.

Rockin Robbins · 06-15-09, 06:10 PM

That was a forseeable, preventable accident. NASCAR should never have sanctioned an event on that track.

SteamWake · 06-15-09, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

That was a forseeable, preventable accident. NASCAR should never have sanctioned an event on that track.

What I dont get is this was a new track I thought. At least only a few years old.

No one during the time of design, construction, testing pointed out "Hey that wall sticking out there aint that kind of dangerous?"

Mui Pelegroso

Platapus · 06-15-09, 06:27 PM

the edge of the wall acted like a knife.

Most tragic.

Kapt Z · 06-15-09, 08:27 PM

I don't follow NASCAR, but I do watch enough races to agree that was one of the worst designed tracks I have ever seen. What in the heck were they doing with concrete barriers that close to the track?!?!

That should have been a 'relatively' harmless spin on a grass infield not a fatal accident.

Horrible.

sunvalleyslim · 06-16-09, 12:37 AM

There's no "OSHA" in Mexico.........

Captain Vlad · 06-16-09, 12:56 AM

Yeah, that's some poor track safety. That shouldn't have been anything more than a yellow flag.

Here's hoping Pardo didn't even have time to realize what was happening.

Aramike · 06-16-09, 03:16 AM

From what I understand, there were only three laps to go.

On a side note, there was something else I noted while watching the video: the stands were practically empty. I can't explain why, but that no one seemed to give a damn about the race makes this a little bit worse.

SteamWake · 06-16-09, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Aramike

From what I understand, there were only three laps to go.

On a side note, there was something else I noted while watching the video: the stands were practically empty. I can't explain why, but that no one seemed to give a damn about the race makes this a little bit worse.

The damn race wasent much more than a publicity stunt anyhow.

Stealth Hunter · 06-16-09, 10:13 AM

He was killed instantly, I assume.

That's a damn shame.

06-15-09, 03:27 PM	#1
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Fatal Nascar crash in Mexico I know its easy to point out stuff after something happens, but wtf where the track designers thinking here? RIP, mr Pardo. PS: Likely disturbing to watch. __________________

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AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,257 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Well, he got tagged in the left rear quarter panel that caused the spin and the concrete wall was not placed very well at all. In fact the placement sucked. If I were the driver that tagged him I would not be feeling to good about myself. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

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Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	So much for track safety. __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

06-15-09, 04:01 PM	#6
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Isnt this a 'modern' track? There was a quote after daytona "Were going to race like this untill someone dies" sadly prophetic. After watching the video I can see the problem. Dead end walls on tracksides is a bad bad idea. It should be at least angled. __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

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Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	That was a forseeable, preventable accident. NASCAR should never have sanctioned an event on that track. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

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CastleBravo Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	It looks as if he hit the water barrier, which is what it is designed for. Its certainly a tragedy and I cannot understand what the voice-over is saying, but from the tarp used to place him in the helicopter, for better or worse he died on impact.

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,365 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	the edge of the wall acted like a knife. Most tragic. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Kapt Z Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: ...somewhere in the swamps of Jersey. Posts: 909 Downloads: 157 Uploads: 0	I don't follow NASCAR, but I do watch enough races to agree that was one of the worst designed tracks I have ever seen. What in the heck were they doing with concrete barriers that close to the track?!?! That should have been a 'relatively' harmless spin on a grass infield not a fatal accident. Horrible.

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sunvalleyslim Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Los Angeles, Ca Posts: 1,142 Downloads: 267 Uploads: 0	There's no "OSHA" in Mexico......... __________________ Crew member/ decommission member TM2(SS)(SD) 3/68-7/70 DIESEL BOATS FOREVER USS SEGUNDO (SS398)

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Captain Vlad Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pollard, Oklahoma Posts: 679 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Yeah, that's some poor track safety. That shouldn't have been anything more than a yellow flag. Here's hoping Pardo didn't even have time to realize what was happening. __________________ "Stop sounding battlestations just to hear the alarm."

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Aramike Ocean Warrior Best of SUBSIM Chairman Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 3,207 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	From what I understand, there were only three laps to go. On a side note, there was something else I noted while watching the video: the stands were practically empty. I can't explain why, but that no one seemed to give a damn about the race makes this a little bit worse.

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Stealth Hunter Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Y'ha-Nthlei Posts: 4,262 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	He was killed instantly, I assume. That's a damn shame.