SH3 Snorkel Problem

Alopezh · 05-20-09, 03:35 PM

Newbie here, I cant seem to get the snorkel, every time I try to get it changes renown, I have clicked on it several times and also going back to a previous moment and get it again, but nothing works , ANY HELP PLEASE

Bent Periscope · 05-20-09, 07:10 PM

What year is it since the snorkel isn't available at the beginning of the war?

BP

Alopezh · 05-20-09, 10:08 PM

Its around late 1943, the snorkel is avaliable already in the menu, but reach time i tried ti get it it changes the renown amount and double clicking it doesnt do much either.

Thanks

Paul Riley · 05-21-09, 03:09 AM

I'd like to know when the schnorkel is available myself,planes are becoming a bit bloody annoying lately.I am in late Nov 1942

Thanks

Leandros · 05-21-09, 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Riley

I'd like to know when the schnorkel is available myself,planes are becoming a bit bloody annoying lately.I am in late Nov 1942

Thanks

Beware, Paul. Schnorkel is not a 100% solution to the ASW aircrafts. Under certain conditions the contrary.

Paul Riley · 05-21-09, 04:43 AM

I appreciate that fact Leandros,thanks

Still,it has to be the only viable option next to risking a full surface run,or running at 7m decks awash.Using the Schnorkel would be ideal at night,then lower it in daylight using the electrics as normal.The only problem I can think of with it is the complete lack of warning from warning receivers etc,relying solely on your own eyes and a bit of guesswork as to when you next expect an air attack.

Regarding radar,does it give off much of a signature?,does aircraft radar really become that deadly like in real life?,so that even the smallest raising of the periscope can be picked up?,hope so,after all,this really was the case and must have been a nightmare of a revelation for the UBoat crews,making it practically impossible to do anything later on without being destroyed for it.

Lastly,and this relates to stock only,do you get smoke coming from the top of it in game?,just like you do with ship funnels.I ask because I havent seen the device in game yet,only in a few books of mine.

Cheers

Jimbuna · 05-21-09, 06:01 AM

Welcome aboard Alopezh

I'm going to presume your playing SH3 stock/vanilla.

If this is the case then your snorkel will be detectable (especially by aircraft) because of the latter year availability and the obvious availability of centimetric radar by to the Allies.

If I were you I'd consider trying GWX3.0 because that comes ready equipped with a Late War Sensors and Snorkel Antennas mod.

The above will equip you with the following:

FuMB-3 Bali (Type VII and IX) from Oct44. Detection range/radar warning approx 7.5km

FuMB-37 Leros (Type XXI) from Jan45. Detection range/radar warning approx 9.5km

Paul Riley · 05-21-09, 08:03 AM

Jim,

Did the Schnorkel also have a warning reciever on it? I never knew that,I would have thought with the waves coming close to the top of the tube sometimes this would have interfered with the reception of the reciever

Jimbuna · 05-21-09, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Riley

Jim,

Did the Schnorkel also have a warning reciever on it? I never knew that,I would have thought with the waves coming close to the top of the tube sometimes this would have interfered with the reception of the reciever

Do you recall the saying below...often used on such occasions in a joking fashion (as on this occasion)

http://files.filefront.com/Manual+V3.../fileinfo.html

Bent Periscope · 05-21-09, 10:14 AM

Per this site, http://www.uboat.net/technical/schnorchel.htm, it looks like the snorkel was not available for operational u-boots until early 1944.

This of course does not explain why the renown value changes. I wonder if this is to show when the prototype was available? Still, I don't know how that works into the equation and at what point are we able to use a prototype + its reliability.

BP

Jimbuna · 05-21-09, 10:22 AM

If rquired in GWX3.0...the dates are as stated above.

TBH I wouldn't get hung up on the finest of details. The game engine is nearing 4 years of age and as a natural consequence, great limitations continue to be imposed on modification developments.

I do not want you to take this statement as an afront because it is meant in a respectful context, but the more you 'rivet count' will only more than likely detract from your enjoyment of the game.

I honestly think there is a thin line between historical accuracy and game immersion....the trick is IMHO, getting the balance right.

Paul Riley · 05-21-09, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Do you recall the saying below...often used on such occasions in a joking fashion (as on this occasion)

http://files.filefront.com/Manual+V3.../fileinfo.html

Jimbuna · 05-21-09, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Riley

Don't think we haven't all been there Paul...including myself on more occasions than I care to remember

Download the GWX manual from that link and prepare yersel for the GWXperience

SINK EM ALL!!

Off to the local now with Kratos et al...I'll sink a few for ya.

Take care mate.

05-20-09, 03:35 PM	#1
Alopezh Nub Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 2 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	SH3 Snorkel Problem Newbie here, I cant seem to get the snorkel, every time I try to get it changes renown, I have clicked on it several times and also going back to a previous moment and get it again, but nothing works , ANY HELP PLEASE

05-21-09, 03:09 AM	#4
Paul Riley Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 2,679 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	I'd like to know when the schnorkel is available myself,planes are becoming a bit bloody annoying lately.I am in late Nov 1942 Thanks __________________ Best Patrol: 10 merchants + HMS Nelson for 68.056 Tonnes

05-21-09, 04:43 AM	#6
Paul Riley Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 2,679 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	I appreciate that fact Leandros,thanks Still,it has to be the only viable option next to risking a full surface run,or running at 7m decks awash.Using the Schnorkel would be ideal at night,then lower it in daylight using the electrics as normal.The only problem I can think of with it is the complete lack of warning from warning receivers etc,relying solely on your own eyes and a bit of guesswork as to when you next expect an air attack. Regarding radar,does it give off much of a signature?,does aircraft radar really become that deadly like in real life?,so that even the smallest raising of the periscope can be picked up?,hope so,after all,this really was the case and must have been a nightmare of a revelation for the UBoat crews,making it practically impossible to do anything later on without being destroyed for it. Lastly,and this relates to stock only,do you get smoke coming from the top of it in game?,just like you do with ship funnels.I ask because I havent seen the device in game yet,only in a few books of mine. Cheers __________________ Best Patrol: 10 merchants + HMS Nelson for 68.056 Tonnes

05-21-09, 06:01 AM	#7
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,544 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Welcome aboard Alopezh I'm going to presume your playing SH3 stock/vanilla. If this is the case then your snorkel will be detectable (especially by aircraft) because of the latter year availability and the obvious availability of centimetric radar by to the Allies. If I were you I'd consider trying GWX3.0 because that comes ready equipped with a Late War Sensors and Snorkel Antennas mod. The above will equip you with the following: FuMB-3 Bali (Type VII and IX) from Oct44. Detection range/radar warning approx 7.5km FuMB-37 Leros (Type XXI) from Jan45. Detection range/radar warning approx 9.5km __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

05-21-09, 08:03 AM	#8
Paul Riley Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 2,679 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	Jim, Did the Schnorkel also have a warning reciever on it? I never knew that,I would have thought with the waves coming close to the top of the tube sometimes this would have interfered with the reception of the reciever __________________ Best Patrol: 10 merchants + HMS Nelson for 68.056 Tonnes

05-20-09, 07:10 PM	#2
Bent Periscope Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Dry docks of Los Angeles, CA Posts: 250 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	What year is it since the snorkel isn't available at the beginning of the war? BP

05-20-09, 10:08 PM	#3
Alopezh Nub Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 2 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Its around late 1943, the snorkel is avaliable already in the menu, but reach time i tried ti get it it changes the renown amount and double clicking it doesnt do much either. Thanks

05-21-09, 10:14 AM	#10
Bent Periscope Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Dry docks of Los Angeles, CA Posts: 250 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Per this site, http://www.uboat.net/technical/schnorchel.htm, it looks like the snorkel was not available for operational u-boots until early 1944. This of course does not explain why the renown value changes. I wonder if this is to show when the prototype was available? Still, I don't know how that works into the equation and at what point are we able to use a prototype + its reliability. BP

05-21-09, 10:22 AM	#11
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,544 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	If rquired in GWX3.0...the dates are as stated above. TBH I wouldn't get hung up on the finest of details. The game engine is nearing 4 years of age and as a natural consequence, great limitations continue to be imposed on modification developments. I do not want you to take this statement as an afront because it is meant in a respectful context, but the more you 'rivet count' will only more than likely detract from your enjoyment of the game. I honestly think there is a thin line between historical accuracy and game immersion....the trick is IMHO, getting the balance right. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!