I need advice. Advanced tactics? Stealth?

Deep_Nukem · 04-14-09, 08:42 PM

Alright, so I'm back into DW now....especially with the RA mod.

Now some may not be playing the RA mod , but the questions I have should be somewhat universal, regardless of mod.

I've heard talk about sneaking up behind a sub or hiding in her baffles.
Etc.......and I just don't get it. Using thermal layers too. Yes. In theory I understand it perfectly. What I don't understand is how it's modled in the game/sim.

Let me give you a gripe, and see if you agree...........

Ok so I fire up DW, (no matter what version), I choose to play a quick mission. NO TRUTH, NO DATA LINK, etc.......
I like to find, classify, etc myself. First of all, there is a bug somewhere because no matter if I'm surface hunting, or sub hunting, the mission always says the same thing,,,,,,,,FIND ALL SUB SURFACE platforms and destroy, yadda, yadda, yadda.....I know what mission I'm playing, and if I'm surface hunting, there shouldn't be a need to find SUB surface contacts, yet that's what it tells me........I digress.

So, I finally do figure out at least what Master target is the "goal' to kill, however, I rarely have an accurate TMA on it, and if I take my time and do it right, and get an accurate TMA, I get the message saying "the mission cannot be completed", usually because I've spent too much time trying to get everything set up perfect for the kill shot, and the "goal" has reached their destination before being destroyed.

SO, the simple answer is , "well, figure out who the "goal" is, and snapshot a couple torps that way and you should win the scenario"

Ah yes......very simple indeed. BUT IT ABSOLUTELY KILLS THE IMMERSION FACTOR FOR ME, AND YES I AM YELLING!!!!!!!!!!!

I almost get the feeling this game/sim is like Quake, Or a First person shooter for those not familiar with Quake. You know, quick draw, fire first, damn the TMA solution, just get a fish runnin' at the enemy.

^^^^^^ I do understand and respect this ^^^^^^^ but again, this just kills it for me. No fun.

My major problem with this is realism. I mean are you guys honestly going to tell me that a modern day Nuclear Sub (attack or boomer) is honestly just going to open fire on the first thing that even remotely resembles the enemy? NO WAY! Not in today's world. In my mind, anybody shooting at anybody better be damn sure they know exactly what they are shooting at.

So I suppose the question I pose is this: Is there a way to play this game where you can sneak in on a sub? A surface ship? Without being detected? And overall speaking, how is the stock campaign?

Feel free to jump in anywhere........I know I'm all over the place here. Sorry bout that. I really want to GET INTO this game/sim, but it's slightly frustrating at the moment.

Oh and one more thing that I would be forever grateful for.......someone point in the right direction of modding skins for subs, modding building textures, modding ocean textures.......etc. Thank you

04-14-09, 08:42 PM	#1
Deep_Nukem Mate Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 52 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I need advice. Advanced tactics? Stealth? Alright, so I'm back into DW now....especially with the RA mod. Now some may not be playing the RA mod , but the questions I have should be somewhat universal, regardless of mod. I've heard talk about sneaking up behind a sub or hiding in her baffles. Etc.......and I just don't get it. Using thermal layers too. Yes. In theory I understand it perfectly. What I don't understand is how it's modled in the game/sim. Let me give you a gripe, and see if you agree........... Ok so I fire up DW, (no matter what version), I choose to play a quick mission. NO TRUTH, NO DATA LINK, etc....... I like to find, classify, etc myself. First of all, there is a bug somewhere because no matter if I'm surface hunting, or sub hunting, the mission always says the same thing,,,,,,,,FIND ALL SUB SURFACE platforms and destroy, yadda, yadda, yadda.....I know what mission I'm playing, and if I'm surface hunting, there shouldn't be a need to find SUB surface contacts, yet that's what it tells me........I digress. So, I finally do figure out at least what Master target is the "goal' to kill, however, I rarely have an accurate TMA on it, and if I take my time and do it right, and get an accurate TMA, I get the message saying "the mission cannot be completed", usually because I've spent too much time trying to get everything set up perfect for the kill shot, and the "goal" has reached their destination before being destroyed. SO, the simple answer is , "well, figure out who the "goal" is, and snapshot a couple torps that way and you should win the scenario" Ah yes......very simple indeed. BUT IT ABSOLUTELY KILLS THE IMMERSION FACTOR FOR ME, AND YES I AM YELLING!!!!!!!!!!! I almost get the feeling this game/sim is like Quake, Or a First person shooter for those not familiar with Quake. You know, quick draw, fire first, damn the TMA solution, just get a fish runnin' at the enemy. ^^^^^^ I do understand and respect this ^^^^^^^ but again, this just kills it for me. No fun. My major problem with this is realism. I mean are you guys honestly going to tell me that a modern day Nuclear Sub (attack or boomer) is honestly just going to open fire on the first thing that even remotely resembles the enemy? NO WAY! Not in today's world. In my mind, anybody shooting at anybody better be damn sure they know exactly what they are shooting at. So I suppose the question I pose is this: Is there a way to play this game where you can sneak in on a sub? A surface ship? Without being detected? And overall speaking, how is the stock campaign? Feel free to jump in anywhere........I know I'm all over the place here. Sorry bout that. I really want to GET INTO this game/sim, but it's slightly frustrating at the moment. Oh and one more thing that I would be forever grateful for.......someone point in the right direction of modding skins for subs, modding building textures, modding ocean textures.......etc. Thank you __________________ There is no need to run........you are already dead.