Wow... how did i miss out on this game for so long?

Akula4745 · 04-04-09, 03:08 AM

Well gents... this is one helluva game you got here! Wow. And that is on my OLD machine... the gameplay is fantastic!! Had the typical (I imagine) hard time remembering where some of the more important buttons were located, and learned severals lessons about handling the crew... but wow. Loved it. Cannot believe I had never tried it or really heard anything much about till recently... amazing. I'm hooked.

On my second go-round with the convoy mission (once I figured a few things out) I had 3 kills and 1 damaged... and shelled the last kill at sunset after I waited out the escort. Allow me to share a snapshot of that balmy evening in the Pacific with you:

One question tho - when targeting through the attack scope you get a little triangle which changes color - what is the optimum color for a shot? Red or green? Yellow seems to lead to more misses than hits.

Thanks all... and thanks for the warm welcome too. Nothing but good folks here!!

steinbeck · 04-04-09, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Akula4745

Well gents... this is one helluva game you got here! Wow. And that is on my OLD machine... the gameplay is fantastic!! Had the typical (I imagine) hard time remembering where some of the more important buttons were located, and learned severals lessons about handling the crew... but wow. Loved it. Cannot believe I had never tried it or really heard anything much about till recently... amazing. I'm hooked.

On my second go-round with the convoy mission (once I figured a few things out) I had 3 kills and 1 damaged... and shelled the last kill at sunset after I waited out the escort. Allow me to share a snapshot of that balmy evening in the Pacific with you:

One question tho - when targeting through the attack scope you get a little triangle which changes color - what is the optimum color for a shot? Red or green? Yellow seems to lead to more misses than hits.

Thanks all... and thanks for the warm welcome too. Nothing but good folks here!!

Like always 'I think' green is 'GO' Like traffic lights I guess!

steinbeck

Torplexed · 04-04-09, 06:11 AM

Yeah, submarine simulations are addictive for some of us. Not as fast or reactive as a flight sim, but you usually get the benefit of a little time to plan things out.

We get a lot of wrangling sometimes over which theater is the better game play, the Atlantic or Pacific but to me it's all good. It least they're still making subsims.

Cheers!...and sink them all.

SteamWake · 04-04-09, 07:52 AM

Since it seems your using auto target, green is the best angle. But really the best indicator is the TDO.

Its a slide out tab on the uper left of the periscope screen. There are two pages. One sets depth and speed, the other is for setting AOB and apparent bearing. With auto targeting the latter (the PK) is set for you automagically, however you can watch it to see how big an angle the torp would have to veer to hit its target.

Anything within 15 degrees to port or starbort off you bow or stern (depending which tubes are selected) you should be fine.

Here is a pick its the dial at the bottom in this case the target is about 5 degrees off to port an acceptable angle.

MonTana_Prussian · 04-04-09, 08:11 AM

Yeah,it can be very addicting,but enjoyable! I remember the first day I had the game installed,played about 6-7 hours straight.....

Sailor Steve · 04-04-09, 03:31 PM

I've been addicted to sub sims since I played Silent Service back in 1986. I've been putting off playing SH4 since I'm still working on stuff for SH3, and still enjoying playing it; also because my computer runs it very poorly.

Still, just the other day I wanted to work on some SH4 stuff, and I'm having a hard time making myself stop playing long enough to actually get anything done.

Yes, it's addictive. Welcome to the drug den.:rotfl:

XonE:32 · 04-04-09, 05:14 PM

Ach, all my posts sound the same, but I've been away for too long. I remember Sailor Steve and a bunch of others with great mods for SH3. I played it to death, but got bored of the repitition. It's still a great game. I've only just started SH4 even though I've had it since it basically came out. I had your issues when I first got it (pc couldn't handle it to an acceptable level) then I forgot I had it lol.

So I've just installed it basically for the first time last week. I was a master at SH3, but I suck huge at SH4 so far. I'm using 1.5 and a few of the "realism" mods so I haven't played the vanilla version. Getting better though thanks to some great tutorials by Werner S and CapnScurvy. It's slowly coming back... I think.

I've even made some amazing curved shots with the PK. Well I think they're amazing just because I never had the balls to try that in SH3. I would reinstall it, but I don't want that Starforce crap on my sys.

Silent Service! Loved it. Totally takes me back to my Apple II+ with 48mb of Ram and 5 1/4 inch flopy disk drive LOL. hmm, I just dated myself...d'oh.

I think there's more computing power in my calculator now.

PS: That handling the crew thing is a good one Akula. I have NO idea what I'm doing in that respect I did RTFM, but didn't see much there. Any1 with a decent link on crew management? NOTE: I'm running 1.5 with RFB 1.52 + RSRD for RFB 1.52 and Real Environment. Any thoughts or help would be most welcome.

Cheers all

XonE:32

Akula4745 · 04-04-09, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed

We get a lot of wrangling sometimes over which theater is the better game play, the Atlantic or Pacific but to me it's all good.

Ah, interesting Torp... I hadn't thought about the Atlantic. Does the SH4 U-boat add-on include the Atlantic also? Or would that have been in SH3 - or maybe a mod?

Yeehaw... even more ships to sink!

Torplexed · 04-04-09, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Akula4745

Ah, interesting Torp... I hadn't thought about the Atlantic. Does the SH4 U-boat add-on include the Atlantic also? Or would that have been in SH3 - or maybe a mod?

Yeehaw... even more ships to sink!

The SH4 U-Boat add-on only covers Indian Ocean and Pacific operations by U-Boats. The Operation Monsun mod does far more I understand, although I've yet to download it.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=134922

Akula4745 · 04-04-09, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

Since it seems your using auto target, green is the best angle. But really the best indicator is the TDO.

Anything within 15 degrees to port or starbort off you bow or stern (depending which tubes are selected) you should be fine.

Yessir SW, I had to start out using the auto targeting... too many other buttons to learn and locate on my first mission. But I have snagged every tutorial I have seen available regarding manual targeting and hope to give it a whirl as soon as I am comfortable with basic game knowledge...

So having the bow (and tubes) pointing directly at the target is not the best approach? I should work to have to target slightly off-center of my tubes? Last night I was 90 degrees off a merchant about 800-900 yards away... and couldn't even hit the dang thing with 2 fish. So I know I've got some learning to do.

Akula4745 · 04-04-09, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by XonE:32

Totally takes me back to my Apple II+ with 48mb of Ram and 5 1/4 inch flopy disk drive LOL. hmm, I just dated myself...d'oh.

LOL XonE - my first was an IBM PS2... and I am still not sure it even had any RAM!

peabody · 04-04-09, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Akula4745

Yessir SW, I had to start out using the auto targeting... too many other buttons to learn and locate on my first mission. But I have snagged every tutorial I have seen available regarding manual targeting and hope to give it a whirl as soon as I am comfortable with basic game knowledge...

So having the bow (and tubes) pointing directly at the target is not the best approach? I should work to have to target slightly off-center of my tubes? Last night I was 90 degrees off a merchant about 800-900 yards away... and couldn't even hit the dang thing with 2 fish. So I know I've got some learning to do.

Are you sure you missed? There are duds programmed into the game. 800 yds sounds hard to miss.

Peabody

MonTana_Prussian · 04-04-09, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by peabody

Are you sure you missed? There are duds programmed into the game. 800 yds sounds hard to miss.

Peabody

Ahh,yes,dud torps. pretty good possibility in '41,and as was said,pretty hard to miss at 800 yards.

Akula4745 · 04-04-09, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by peabody

Are you sure you missed? There are duds programmed into the game. 800 yds sounds hard to miss.

I had a couple that were duds - the crew announced them when they happened. I actually wondered if I was so close the torpedos couldn't arm or something... and the crew announced two misses so I assumed they did.

I was dad-gum close - and they both missed. Must have been something I was doing wrong... no idea what yet tho.

Akula4745 · 04-04-09, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MonTana_Prussian

...pretty hard to miss at 800 yards.

MP - if anyone could miss from 800 yards it would be a noob just like me! <G>

04-04-09, 03:08 AM	#1
Akula4745 Convicted Ship Killer Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Just out of sight... plotting your course and speed Posts: 846 Downloads: 371 Uploads: 1	Wow... how did i miss out on this game for so long? Well gents... this is one helluva game you got here! Wow. And that is on my OLD machine... the gameplay is fantastic!! Had the typical (I imagine) hard time remembering where some of the more important buttons were located, and learned severals lessons about handling the crew... but wow. Loved it. Cannot believe I had never tried it or really heard anything much about till recently... amazing. I'm hooked. On my second go-round with the convoy mission (once I figured a few things out) I had 3 kills and 1 damaged... and shelled the last kill at sunset after I waited out the escort. Allow me to share a snapshot of that balmy evening in the Pacific with you: One question tho - when targeting through the attack scope you get a little triangle which changes color - what is the optimum color for a shot? Red or green? Yellow seems to lead to more misses than hits. Thanks all... and thanks for the warm welcome too. Nothing but good folks here!! __________________ Akula4745 "If you sit by the river long enough... the body of your enemy will float by -- SunTzu"

04-04-09, 06:11 AM	#3
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Yeah, submarine simulations are addictive for some of us. Not as fast or reactive as a flight sim, but you usually get the benefit of a little time to plan things out. We get a lot of wrangling sometimes over which theater is the better game play, the Atlantic or Pacific but to me it's all good. It least they're still making subsims. Cheers!...and sink them all. __________________ --Mobilis in Mobili--

04-04-09, 07:52 AM	#4
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Since it seems your using auto target, green is the best angle. But really the best indicator is the TDO. Its a slide out tab on the uper left of the periscope screen. There are two pages. One sets depth and speed, the other is for setting AOB and apparent bearing. With auto targeting the latter (the PK) is set for you automagically, however you can watch it to see how big an angle the torp would have to veer to hit its target. Anything within 15 degrees to port or starbort off you bow or stern (depending which tubes are selected) you should be fine. Here is a pick its the dial at the bottom in this case the target is about 5 degrees off to port an acceptable angle. __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

04-04-09, 03:31 PM	#6
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I've been addicted to sub sims since I played Silent Service back in 1986. I've been putting off playing SH4 since I'm still working on stuff for SH3, and still enjoying playing it; also because my computer runs it very poorly. Still, just the other day I wanted to work on some SH4 stuff, and I'm having a hard time making myself stop playing long enough to actually get anything done. Yes, it's addictive. Welcome to the drug den.:rotfl: __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

04-04-09, 05:14 PM	#7
XonE:32 Bosun Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Shadowing you until dark Posts: 62 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	Ach, all my posts sound the same, but I've been away for too long. I remember Sailor Steve and a bunch of others with great mods for SH3. I played it to death, but got bored of the repitition. It's still a great game. I've only just started SH4 even though I've had it since it basically came out. I had your issues when I first got it (pc couldn't handle it to an acceptable level) then I forgot I had it lol. So I've just installed it basically for the first time last week. I was a master at SH3, but I suck huge at SH4 so far. I'm using 1.5 and a few of the "realism" mods so I haven't played the vanilla version. Getting better though thanks to some great tutorials by Werner S and CapnScurvy. It's slowly coming back... I think. I've even made some amazing curved shots with the PK. Well I think they're amazing just because I never had the balls to try that in SH3. I would reinstall it, but I don't want that Starforce crap on my sys. Silent Service! Loved it. Totally takes me back to my Apple II+ with 48mb of Ram and 5 1/4 inch flopy disk drive LOL. hmm, I just dated myself...d'oh. I think there's more computing power in my calculator now. PS: That handling the crew thing is a good one Akula. I have NO idea what I'm doing in that respect I did RTFM, but didn't see much there. Any1 with a decent link on crew management? NOTE: I'm running 1.5 with RFB 1.52 + RSRD for RFB 1.52 and Real Environment. Any thoughts or help would be most welcome. Cheers all XonE:32 __________________ Dogs can now be trained to detect Covid in their owners. Cats can too ...they just won't. Last edited by XonE:32; 04-04-09 at 05:23 PM. Reason: Added question:

04-04-09, 08:11 AM	#5
MonTana_Prussian Ensign Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Helena,Montana Posts: 234 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yeah,it can be very addicting,but enjoyable! I remember the first day I had the game installed,played about 6-7 hours straight.....