Interesting shipping map of sinkings

helibobber · 03-30-09, 10:02 AM

Here is a map I found in an old Time-Life book (The Battle of the Atlantic, page 98). What I found interesting was the large amount of activity that occurred in the Caribbean. I was pretty unaware of this fact.The dark red areas are where the most number of sinkings occurred. White lines are Principal routes, gray lines are Secondary routes, red color-heaviest sinking areas, pink color-large sinking losses. Sorry for the poor reproduction as I had to take a pic of it. I thought I would share with those who would find it as interesting as I did.
Here's the caption included with the map:
"The Battle of the Atlantic centered around the shipping routes shown here. Areas where the greatest numbers of ships were sunk are indicated in red, with the heaviest losses in deep red. The U-boats began their attacks in the Western Approaches, near Britian, and later divided their effort between the Greenland area and the coast of Africa. Next the East Coast of the United States became the main target region. Then the subs moved down to the Caribbean, before returning to the area west of Britain."

Lt.Fillipidis · 03-30-09, 10:16 AM

Intresting map!
Do you know if that book is distributed in other languages too?

helibobber · 03-30-09, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Lt.Fillipidis

Intresting map!
Do you know if that book is distributed in other languages too?

I'm not sure if they are. It is one of a 36 book series on World War II published by Time-Life Books in 1977. My brother collected them all at the time and gave them all to my son recently. They really are very informative.

Rhodes · 03-30-09, 11:56 AM

An nice book with maps of the merchant sinkings by u-boats plus the u-boats lost, divided by years (ex: september 1939 - may 1940, and so one) are in "The Illustrated History of the Third Reich" by Chris Bishop & David Jordan. It's from 2005, Amber Books Ltd.

Jimbuna · 03-30-09, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by helibobber

I'm not sure if they are. It is one of a 36 book series on World War II published by Time-Life Books in 1977. My brother collected them all at the time and gave them all to my son recently. They really are very informative.

Showing my age now

A great book series I also collected and passed on to a friend last July

Oneshot/Onekill · 03-30-09, 02:23 PM

I didn't realize there were so many sinkings just outside of Gibralter. Too close to the aircover there for my taste.

Otto Heinzmeir · 03-30-09, 05:49 PM

Interesting info. I'm surprised nothing is highlight southwest of Ireland. In the games I play, seems like there are always juicy tankers or convoys around BE39 or so.

Subnuts · 03-30-09, 08:05 PM

I have a copy of John Keegan's original Atlas of the Second World War, which includes four spreads on the Battle of the Atlantic. If anyone's interested in those maps, I can scan a few of them tomorrow.

danlisa · 03-31-09, 12:53 AM

Nice find.

I can't find the link now but there's a member here at subsim who created a map showing player reported sinkings from SH3. It would be interesting to see the similarities. Anyone with link?

TheDudTorpedo · 03-31-09, 02:29 AM

It would be fantastic if SH3 Commander could generate similar maps for each patrol - a bit like how the patrol report is generated.

Is that a feasible proposition JScones?

Regards,
Dud

danlisa · 03-31-09, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by danlisa

Nice find.

I can't find the link now but there's a member here at subsim who created a map showing player reported sinkings from SH3. It would be interesting to see the similarities. Anyone with link?

Found it but it's finished.

Operation Spinnennetz - http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=116182

PappyCain · 03-31-09, 02:53 PM

Operation Spinnennetz

Just looked it over - very impressive effort. Good immersion.

Jimbuna · 04-01-09, 02:19 PM

Not very accurate where GWX3.0 is concerned though, due to the fact that random waypoints and spawnrates have now been introduced.

03-30-09, 10:02 AM	#1
helibobber Watch Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA Posts: 30 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	Interesting shipping map of sinkings Here is a map I found in an old Time-Life book (The Battle of the Atlantic, page 98). What I found interesting was the large amount of activity that occurred in the Caribbean. I was pretty unaware of this fact.The dark red areas are where the most number of sinkings occurred. White lines are Principal routes, gray lines are Secondary routes, red color-heaviest sinking areas, pink color-large sinking losses. Sorry for the poor reproduction as I had to take a pic of it. I thought I would share with those who would find it as interesting as I did. Here's the caption included with the map: "The Battle of the Atlantic centered around the shipping routes shown here. Areas where the greatest numbers of ships were sunk are indicated in red, with the heaviest losses in deep red. The U-boats began their attacks in the Western Approaches, near Britian, and later divided their effort between the Greenland area and the coast of Africa. Next the East Coast of the United States became the main target region. Then the subs moved down to the Caribbean, before returning to the area west of Britain." __________________ Last edited by helibobber; 03-30-09 at 04:50 PM.

03-30-09, 11:56 AM	#4
Rhodes Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Figueira da Foz, Portugal Posts: 4,515 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	An nice book with maps of the merchant sinkings by u-boats plus the u-boats lost, divided by years (ex: september 1939 - may 1940, and so one) are in "The Illustrated History of the Third Reich" by Chris Bishop & David Jordan. It's from 2005, Amber Books Ltd. __________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/16416646@N05/

03-30-09, 05:49 PM	#7
Otto Heinzmeir Weps Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Wilhelmshaven Local Pub Posts: 361 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Interesting info. I'm surprised nothing is highlight southwest of Ireland. In the games I play, seems like there are always juicy tankers or convoys around BE39 or so. __________________ NYGM3.2 + Tonnage War Minefield________IABLShipsRezonedFinal Hitman Optics & Compass_______________Thomsen's Sound Mod v3 100% Realism DID + No God's Eye View____SH3 Commander Crew Rotation

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Subnuts The Old Man Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,658 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	I have a copy of John Keegan's original Atlas of the Second World War, which includes four spreads on the Battle of the Atlantic. If anyone's interested in those maps, I can scan a few of them tomorrow. __________________ My Amazon.com reviews

03-31-09, 12:53 AM	#9
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	Nice find. I can't find the link now but there's a member here at subsim who created a map showing player reported sinkings from SH3. It would be interesting to see the similarities. Anyone with link? __________________

03-30-09, 10:16 AM	#2
Lt.Fillipidis Weps Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Veria, Greece Posts: 365 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	Intresting map! Do you know if that book is distributed in other languages too?

03-31-09, 02:29 AM	#10
TheDudTorpedo Machinist's Mate Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 128 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	It would be fantastic if SH3 Commander could generate similar maps for each patrol - a bit like how the patrol report is generated. Is that a feasible proposition JScones? Regards, Dud __________________ Download GWX 3.0 Gold here : http://www.thegreywolves.com/ Download SH3 Commander 3.2 here : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...do=file&id=733

03-31-09, 02:53 PM	#12
PappyCain Samurai Navy Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: on the Atlantic Ocean Posts: 559 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Operation Spinnennetz Just looked it over - very impressive effort. Good immersion.

04-01-09, 02:19 PM	#13
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Not very accurate where GWX3.0 is concerned though, due to the fact that random waypoints and spawnrates have now been introduced. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!