POLL: Which environment mod are you using?

Hitman · 02-18-09, 08:12 AM

I have more or less finished the fixed-weather mod I have been working on, and now I would like to know which one you are using from the above, so I can consider which files would be better to provide for the maximal amount of users.

Please answer the poll, it just takes a moment and will give helpful data.

So far I have planned to provide a NYGM and a GWX version, I know I can contact those guys for the proper permissions, but OLC seems to be out temporarily

Nedlam · 02-18-09, 08:54 AM

NYGM 3.1

That's an Environment mod right?

nikbear · 02-18-09, 11:20 AM

MANOS environment mod,with Reece 'green atlantic' and OLC flat sun fix combination

Looks great

02-18-09, 11:28 AM

What is this Manos environment mod of which thee speaketh ?

NGT · 02-18-09, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Uber Gruber

What is this Manos environment mod of which thee speaketh ?

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147977

Graf Paper · 02-18-09, 12:30 PM

Seeing as how GWX 3.0 already has parts of OLC's environment mod built in, I'd say it's practically a given that there will not be much difference in the changes needed for a mod to be compatible with GWX 3.0 and OLC Gold.

Just promise that the night sky will be night, not just pitch black, and the horizon color will fit with that instead of glowing a bright blue as if the sun were on the verge of rising at any moment even though it's hours away.

I like that the "dark horizon" flaw was fixed with other env mods, allowing for an easier time to spot the smoke plume of vessels, especially at dawn and dusk, but having the horizon lit up like high noon when it's midnight is a real immersion killer.

At the other extreme, 16k nights in GWX 3.0 are so black that you can barely see the UZO when you're standing in the conning tower, let alone spot a warship or merchant running with no lights.

I think many are hoping your own ideas will produce results that are a happy medium that gives one the "feel" of night without the game-killing darkness of true night or the glaring horizon that makes one feel as if they're on some eternal dawn patrol.

Realism in a game only works if it has no serious hindrance to playing the game.

Looking forward to what you create, Hitman!

Share what you learn!

Kanaris · 02-18-09, 12:45 PM

Voted for "other", in my case, Man0s Environment Pro

coronas · 02-18-09, 01:48 PM

I use MEP with Reece's scene.dat from sh4 16km Atmosphere for sh3.

dcb · 02-18-09, 01:59 PM

Hard choice between GWX3 and Manos, but in the end I voted for GWX3.

Hitman · 02-18-09, 03:13 PM

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I think many are hoping your own ideas will produce results that are a happy medium that gives one the "feel" of night without the game-killing darkness of true night or the glaring horizon that makes one feel as if they're on some eternal dawn patrol.

To be honest my plan is to tweak exclusively which of the different original weather patterns in those files will be available, i.e. I do not intend to modify anything from the work of the authors except dividing in several alternative files what is currently in only one. Meaning you will just be able to choose via JGSME or may be SH3 Commander (Must look at that) the weather pattern (Fair/Moderate/Rough) that better suits the grid and season you are patrolling in so you can have a realistic weather for it.

The purpose of the idea is to prevent f.e. the Atlantic from being sunny and with calm water south of Reikjavik in January, or the Caribbean seeing frequent choppy weather and storms, etc. BUT respecting in all the rest the author's idea about his environment mod.

Hitman · 02-18-09, 03:19 PM

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use MEP with Reece's scene.dat from sh4 16km Atmosphere for sh3.

Does that incorporate the Horizon fix by OLC?

coronas · 02-18-09, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitman

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use MEP with Reece's scene.dat from sh4 16km Atmosphere for sh3.

Does that incorporate the Horizon fix by OLC?

Reece has found a solution for Horizon bug in his own scene.dat. It works very well for me. See the picture in biggest size, horizont is almost perfect. I changue env and misc folders often looking for the best result.
Your idea about enable via SHCommander is excellent. Clouds, water and weather will changue according to time, place or season.

robbythesub · 02-18-09, 04:20 PM

I am using and have voted for OLC gold with manos final- superb!

OneTinSoldier · 02-18-09, 11:29 PM

GWX 3.0 Gold stock 8km. Night is dark but not gamekilling dark.

IFRT-WHUFC · 02-19-09, 07:00 AM

I found that the night horizon bug is controlled with the first image in the sky_atl.tga within the skycolors_xx.dat files. As with the 4th image in the specular.tga can control sunset and sunrise (which i coloured to give a more orange sunrise/sunset on across the water!

hope this helps
Rick

View Poll Results: Which environment mod are you using?
GWX 16km	39	57.35%
OLCEnvironment 2	12	17.65%
OLCEnvironment Gold	10	14.71%
Other (Specify if possible)	8	11.76%
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02-18-09, 08:12 AM	#1
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	POLL: Which environment mod are you using? I have more or less finished the fixed-weather mod I have been working on, and now I would like to know which one you are using from the above, so I can consider which files would be better to provide for the maximal amount of users. Please answer the poll, it just takes a moment and will give helpful data. So far I have planned to provide a NYGM and a GWX version, I know I can contact those guys for the proper permissions, but OLC seems to be out temporarily __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

02-18-09, 08:54 AM	#2
Nedlam Ensign Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 222 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	NYGM 3.1 That's an Environment mod right? __________________ You can never put too much water on a nuclear reactor...

02-18-09, 11:20 AM	#3
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	MANOS environment mod,with Reece 'green atlantic' and OLC flat sun fix combinationLooks great __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

02-18-09, 12:30 PM	#6
Graf Paper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest United States Posts: 1,146 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 2	Seeing as how GWX 3.0 already has parts of OLC's environment mod built in, I'd say it's practically a given that there will not be much difference in the changes needed for a mod to be compatible with GWX 3.0 and OLC Gold. Just promise that the night sky will be night, not just pitch black, and the horizon color will fit with that instead of glowing a bright blue as if the sun were on the verge of rising at any moment even though it's hours away. I like that the "dark horizon" flaw was fixed with other env mods, allowing for an easier time to spot the smoke plume of vessels, especially at dawn and dusk, but having the horizon lit up like high noon when it's midnight is a real immersion killer. At the other extreme, 16k nights in GWX 3.0 are so black that you can barely see the UZO when you're standing in the conning tower, let alone spot a warship or merchant running with no lights. I think many are hoping your own ideas will produce results that are a happy medium that gives one the "feel" of night without the game-killing darkness of true night or the glaring horizon that makes one feel as if they're on some eternal dawn patrol. Realism in a game only works if it has no serious hindrance to playing the game. Looking forward to what you create, Hitman! Share what you learn! __________________ Still sailing the high seas, hunting convoys with those who join me.

02-18-09, 11:28 AM	#4
Uber Gruber Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	What is this Manos environment mod of which thee speaketh ?

02-18-09, 12:45 PM	#7
Kanaris Bilge Rat Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	other Voted for "other", in my case, Man0s Environment Pro

02-18-09, 01:48 PM	#8
coronas Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Asturias, España Posts: 1,168 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	I use MEP with Reece's scene.dat from sh4 16km Atmosphere for sh3. __________________

02-18-09, 01:59 PM	#9
dcb Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 845 Downloads: 544 Uploads: 0	Hard choice between GWX3 and Manos, but in the end I voted for GWX3.

02-18-09, 04:20 PM	#13
robbythesub Captain Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Somewhere under the ocean Posts: 504 Downloads: 302 Uploads: 0	I am using and have voted for OLC gold with manos final- superb!

02-18-09, 11:29 PM	#14
OneTinSoldier Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Denver, CO USA Posts: 382 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	GWX 3.0 Gold stock 8km. Night is dark but not gamekilling dark. __________________ "Variable this is EasyRhino, do you copy? Over." Loud and clear EasyRhino. "Do we have a gig? Over." That's a Roger, we have a gig. Target is painted, start the music. "Roger that Variable. Into attack. Pickling target. Target is acquired and lit. LGB comin' down!" EasyRhino, circular error probability zero. Impact with High Order Detonation. Thank You, have a nice day.

02-19-09, 07:00 AM	#15
IFRT-WHUFC Engineer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: By the Nordsee Posts: 200 Downloads: 374 Uploads: 0	Horizon bug! I found that the night horizon bug is controlled with the first image in the sky_atl.tga within the skycolors_xx.dat files. As with the 4th image in the specular.tga can control sunset and sunrise (which i coloured to give a more orange sunrise/sunset on across the water! hope this helps Rick