Why did my crew suffocate while on the surface?

Platapus · 02-11-09, 08:52 PM

Playing 1.5+ RFB

Just completed a photorecon mission and was sneaking out of the harbour. Was discovered by destroyers and received minor damage. Eventually I was able to avoid the destroyers and maneuver out to open water.

I was at Silent Running and the crew was not at battle stations. As per the manual for RFB I had the deck crew safely stowed.

Then it starts getting strange.

I secured from silent running
Surfaced
Called the crew to battle stations and verified that the DC crew was activated.

Strange occurrence 1. The minor damage to my sub would not get repaired after running for over two hours.

I secured from battle stations but kept the DC crew active.

Decided to head to port.

Strange occurrence 2. I noticed that the CO2 levels kept increasing even though the sub was on the surface.
When I went on to to the bridge I noticed that I was the only one there.

I cycled the deck crew from "hogans" to their stations and no change. The crew was not exhausted and only one watch was sleeping and one watch was "on duty".

My whole crew suffocated while the sub was on the surface.

Has anyone else run in to this bug?

The only thing I can think of is that while approaching the photo recce target, I had to pause the game for quite a few hours due to RL issues.

Any idea what happened?

FIREWALL · 02-11-09, 09:08 PM

Be cause SH4 is buggie ?

Fincuan · 02-11-09, 09:14 PM

Really helpful Firewall, really helpful...

@Platapus: You alt+tabbed out of the game, which results in many weird things such as this. There's also a reverse version, where the crew remains on the deck while diving

A Very Super Market · 02-11-09, 09:26 PM

Never, ever, ever alt-tab out of a non-windowed game. Even if you've done it before without incident, there is a still a risk

Fincuan, didn't you die?

Fish40 · 02-11-09, 09:26 PM

If you stay submerged long enough to see an CO2 icon appear in the upper right hand corner of the screen, you need to surface by clicking on the icon. The boat will ventilate. I never had a CO2 problem by doing this.

As for the damage not being repaired, are you sure you were not still in "Silent Running"? The only other thing I could think of is that mabey the damage although slight, was of the nature that could not be repaired at sea.

Fincuan · 02-11-09, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Very Super Market

Fincuan, didn't you die?

Indeed, I heard I was spread around the fuel depot.

The last thing I saw was the hairy face of my killer. The "thing" that did it looked a lot like... he ... looked like .... agghhh......... Bugger, now I'm indeed dead and can't tell you

RHill389 · 02-11-09, 10:19 PM

Could it be that the crew had the wrong Kool Aid, you never know!

FIREWALL · 02-11-09, 11:50 PM

Kinda funny in a way but, all from the Werewolf game that follow me to another thread seem to die sooner or later.

jazzabilly · 02-12-09, 01:59 AM

"This is your breathing gear, Herr Leutnant! Very Important!"

"But it's only good in the Baltic!"

"Or for when the diesels start to smoke...."

"Or when Frenssen Farts!"

All kidding aside ~ it's the CO2 bug. Save, quit and restart. You'll be fine. I've seen it a couple of times in RFB, once in stock. C'est la guerre.

ReFaN · 02-12-09, 04:50 AM

Had it happen in TM.

Platapus · 02-12-09, 06:30 AM

I guess the computer alt-tabbed for me. All I did was pause the game and leave. I did notice that when I got back I had to click on the small icon on my task bar to bring up SH4 again.

So if I am underwater and have enemy shipping around me, what can I do when real life forces me away from my game? I can't save while underwater and evidently I can't just pause (as after a while it automatically alt-tabs (at least my computer did that).

This is yet another reason why I hate these photorecce missions. It takes so long to sneak into the harbour (at least at the higher realism settings) without being detected that I can see my not being able to complete the mission in one game playing session (real life stynks)

How do you guys handle these long photorecce missions if you have real life issues that limit your game time?

Friends don't let friends do photorecce missions.

Rockin Robbins · 02-12-09, 08:18 AM

Sir, are you captain of your crew or not? How do you explain training them to perform intricate evasion maneuvers, dangerous crash dives and emergency surface procedures WITHOUT training them to open the hatches when they surface. Captain, had you survived, this board of inquiry would sentence you to the duration of the rest of the war skippering a rock hammer at heavy labor.

Seriously, try clicking on the CO2 warning icon in the upper right corner. Much of the time that will immediately solve your problem. If that doesn't work, just save and reload. It isn't necessary to exit the game. As soon as the game reloads you'll find yourself at zero percent CO2. Most of the time you can alt-tab out of the game without incident. Catastrophizers are severely overstating a minor annoyance which can be fixed in about 45 seconds at worst, and which gives you plenty of time to react. I continue to alt-tab out whenever I want to and find SH4 very forgiving compared to just about every other game out there.

By the way, I have hundreds of times saved underwater, in combat, while surrounded by enemy and friendly vessels, in port, every possible situation and not once had a problem. Pay no attention to the nattering nabobs of negativity and proceed to do what you need to do without fear.

Soundman · 02-12-09, 03:41 PM

I try to avoid saving underwater, but have done it many times without a problem. I have however, had a problem saving just after sinking a boat, only to have the "Smoke on the water" cloud follow me around for the rest of the patrol. Didn't interfere with gameplay, just very annoying. So now I wait until I've sailed 5 or 6 miles away before saving.

Platapus · 02-12-09, 07:05 PM

Man, getting "counseled" by RR.

What brought me to this lowly state?

Dereliction of duty? (hanging head in shame). It is a fair cop. I am ready for my transfer to the USS Standard Furniture

In the mean time, it never occurred to me to click on the CO2 warning. What is that supposed to do in the game? Are there other warnings I can click on in the game?

I am glad that the saving underwater bug is no longer a problem in SH4.

Well if I ever get command of another boat, I will take those suggestions.

samofire · 02-14-09, 04:37 PM

Had there, perchance, been any bean-based dishes served to the crew for dinner that night?

02-11-09, 08:52 PM	#1
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Why did my crew suffocate while on the surface? Playing 1.5+ RFB Just completed a photorecon mission and was sneaking out of the harbour. Was discovered by destroyers and received minor damage. Eventually I was able to avoid the destroyers and maneuver out to open water. I was at Silent Running and the crew was not at battle stations. As per the manual for RFB I had the deck crew safely stowed. Then it starts getting strange. I secured from silent running Surfaced Called the crew to battle stations and verified that the DC crew was activated. Strange occurrence 1. The minor damage to my sub would not get repaired after running for over two hours. I secured from battle stations but kept the DC crew active. Decided to head to port. Strange occurrence 2. I noticed that the CO2 levels kept increasing even though the sub was on the surface. When I went on to to the bridge I noticed that I was the only one there. I cycled the deck crew from "hogans" to their stations and no change. The crew was not exhausted and only one watch was sleeping and one watch was "on duty". My whole crew suffocated while the sub was on the surface. Has anyone else run in to this bug? The only thing I can think of is that while approaching the photo recce target, I had to pause the game for quite a few hours due to RL issues. Any idea what happened? __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

02-11-09, 09:08 PM	#2
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Be cause SH4 is buggie ? __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

02-11-09, 09:26 PM	#4
A Very Super Market The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Deep in the Wild Canadian suburbs. Posts: 1,468 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Never, ever, ever alt-tab out of a non-windowed game. Even if you've done it before without incident, there is a still a risk Fincuan, didn't you die? __________________ The entire German garrison of Vanviken, right here in your thread!

02-11-09, 11:50 PM	#8
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Kinda funny in a way but, all from the Werewolf game that follow me to another thread seem to die sooner or later. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

02-12-09, 01:59 AM	#9
jazzabilly Planesman Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vancouver BC Posts: 186 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	"This is your breathing gear, Herr Leutnant! Very Important!" "But it's only good in the Baltic!" "Or for when the diesels start to smoke...." "Or when Frenssen Farts!" All kidding aside ~ it's the CO2 bug. Save, quit and restart. You'll be fine. I've seen it a couple of times in RFB, once in stock. C'est la guerre. __________________ If it's a fair fight, then you didn't plan it properly. ====================================

02-11-09, 09:14 PM	#3
Fincuan Admiral Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Suomi, sauna, puukko, perkele Posts: 2,346 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Really helpful Firewall, really helpful... @Platapus: You alt+tabbed out of the game, which results in many weird things such as this. There's also a reverse version, where the crew remains on the deck while diving

02-11-09, 09:26 PM	#5
Fish40 The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yonkers, NY U.S.A. Posts: 1,507 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	If you stay submerged long enough to see an CO2 icon appear in the upper right hand corner of the screen, you need to surface by clicking on the icon. The boat will ventilate. I never had a CO2 problem by doing this. As for the damage not being repaired, are you sure you were not still in "Silent Running"? The only other thing I could think of is that mabey the damage although slight, was of the nature that could not be repaired at sea.

02-11-09, 10:19 PM	#7
RHill389 Swabbie Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: St. Louis MO Posts: 14 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Could it be that the crew had the wrong Kool Aid, you never know!

02-12-09, 04:50 AM	#10
ReFaN Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 831 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	Had it happen in TM. __________________ Liverpool is my relegion, Anfield is my church. True believers never walk alone.

02-12-09, 06:30 AM	#11
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I guess the computer alt-tabbed for me. All I did was pause the game and leave. I did notice that when I got back I had to click on the small icon on my task bar to bring up SH4 again. So if I am underwater and have enemy shipping around me, what can I do when real life forces me away from my game? I can't save while underwater and evidently I can't just pause (as after a while it automatically alt-tabs (at least my computer did that). This is yet another reason why I hate these photorecce missions. It takes so long to sneak into the harbour (at least at the higher realism settings) without being detected that I can see my not being able to complete the mission in one game playing session (real life stynks) How do you guys handle these long photorecce missions if you have real life issues that limit your game time? Friends don't let friends do photorecce missions. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

02-12-09, 08:18 AM	#12
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Sir, are you captain of your crew or not? How do you explain training them to perform intricate evasion maneuvers, dangerous crash dives and emergency surface procedures WITHOUT training them to open the hatches when they surface. Captain, had you survived, this board of inquiry would sentence you to the duration of the rest of the war skippering a rock hammer at heavy labor. Seriously, try clicking on the CO2 warning icon in the upper right corner. Much of the time that will immediately solve your problem. If that doesn't work, just save and reload. It isn't necessary to exit the game. As soon as the game reloads you'll find yourself at zero percent CO2. Most of the time you can alt-tab out of the game without incident. Catastrophizers are severely overstating a minor annoyance which can be fixed in about 45 seconds at worst, and which gives you plenty of time to react. I continue to alt-tab out whenever I want to and find SH4 very forgiving compared to just about every other game out there. By the way, I have hundreds of times saved underwater, in combat, while surrounded by enemy and friendly vessels, in port, every possible situation and not once had a problem. Pay no attention to the nattering nabobs of negativity and proceed to do what you need to do without fear. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

02-12-09, 03:41 PM	#13
Soundman Commodore Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 617 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	I try to avoid saving underwater, but have done it many times without a problem. I have however, had a problem saving just after sinking a boat, only to have the "Smoke on the water" cloud follow me around for the rest of the patrol. Didn't interfere with gameplay, just very annoying. So now I wait until I've sailed 5 or 6 miles away before saving. __________________ RVAH-9 RA-5C Vigilante at NAS Sanford, Fl 1966 The coolest plane few have heard of!

02-12-09, 07:05 PM	#14
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Man, getting "counseled" by RR. What brought me to this lowly state? Dereliction of duty? (hanging head in shame). It is a fair cop. I am ready for my transfer to the USS Standard Furniture In the mean time, it never occurred to me to click on the CO2 warning. What is that supposed to do in the game? Are there other warnings I can click on in the game? I am glad that the saving underwater bug is no longer a problem in SH4. Well if I ever get command of another boat, I will take those suggestions. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

02-14-09, 04:37 PM	#15
samofire Watch Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 19 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Had there, perchance, been any bean-based dishes served to the crew for dinner that night?