Sea Shepherd Tactics Utterly Failing.

[Zachstar]

Obviously low on cash and fuel in my view. This org has taken to constant PR bull in desperation.

Throwing stuff at the whalers = Legal to them

but the moment the sailors use sound to defend themselves? They are suddenly unlawful thugs.

On DU saying such would get you denounced as a defender of whale killers supposedly. Now more and more are just thinking how plain nuts these people are.

They are losing support fast. The whalers do not need to get a full load of whales this year. They can get it after they scare away any kind of scrutiny by saying "Are you another Sea Shepherd?"

In my view this hostile organization has done more to help the cause of pro-whaling nations than any PR campaign could have ever done.

Sea Shepherd you have LOST.

And frankly they are sounding more and more suspicious every day.

"Seeing the long prolonged agonizing murder of that defenceless whale has made me angry," said Captain Paul Watson. "Very angry. We are going to make a stand here today to shut this obscenity down. It will be dangerous but we did not come down here to witness the slaughter of whales, we came down to stop the killing. We have a very big disadvantage," continued Watson. "Japan will defend the violence of their mad dog killers. Our governments don't have the guts and will condemn us for defending ourselves and the whales. Sometimes you just have to say, what the hell and make a stand and that is what we intend to do here today. We intend to make a stand."

That does not sound pleasant.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

but the moment the sailors use sound to defend themselves? They are suddenly unlawful thugs.

The whalers used an LRAD on a flying helicopter. I think both sides have lost.

[Aramike]

This is the kind of crap that happens when you approach a cause on a personal level rather than an intellectual one. Sure, whaling can be brutal ... but so is nature. As long as the populations themselves are being preserved, I have no problem with it.

[Zachstar]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

The whalers used an LRAD on a flying helicopter. I think both sides have lost.

So? BTW I HIGHLY doubt it was at the level they claim it as. They obviously wanted to make it seem that this supposedly highly skilled pilot would lose control and crash because of the so called horrid irresponsibility of the whalers.

The whalers are winning. They are running sea shepherd out of money. But they are taking no chances after Sea Shepherd attempted in my view to board and open the locks.

[UnderseaLcpl]

Here's a BBC report on youtube that I stumbled across

[Zachstar]

The whalers ran the blockade. And of course Sea Shepherd lets its ship get collided in the process.

This is the best they can do. They cant even run a blockade much less stop the activities of the hunters.

The whalers seem content to keep blasting them with sound and run them out of reserve fuel. Very cool and calm considering they have a ship flying a pirate flag harassing them.

[Kapt Z]

I understand their passion, but I do question their methods.

Putting their hysterics aside, they are right. It does boggle the mind that there is still organized whaling permitted in this day and age.

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by Kapt Z

I understand their passion, but I do question their methods.

Putting their hysterics aside, they are right. It does boggle the mind that there is still organized whaling permitted in this day and age.

Would disorganized whaling be preferable?

[Kapt Z]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Would disorganized whaling be preferable?

No, no whaling would be preferable...

But, I understand some small communities of eskimos and other indigenous peoples are permitted to hunt whales as part of their cultural heritage. I accept that knowing that the numbers of whales taken by those groups are small. That is quite different from modern large harvesting vessels supported by some nations. There is no excuse for that.

[FIREWALL]

Besides keeping themselves in jobs.

What commercial product does harvesting whales provide Worldwide ?

Is this their answer to the energy crisis.

[UnderseaLcpl]

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

Besides keeping themselves in jobs.

What commercial product does harvesting whales provide Worldwide ?

Is this their answer to the energy crisis.

Yes, because this industry is kept alive by not being profitable, and we should all consider the worldwide benefit of our industries before engaging in business. What are you, a communist?

There's already an international limit on Japanese whaling, what more do you want? An unharvested whale generates exactly zero jobs and zero revenue. It leaves precisely zero families fed. It also contributes exactly nothing to the development of an economy that does not include whaling.

[Falkirion]

There's only a select few countries that ignore the outright whaling ban these days and I think it only totals 3 or 4.

Sea Shepard's lost its just these Environmentalist extremists don't know it.

[Neptunus Rex]

The whale hunting is not the issue, but this policy of "the end justifies the means". What the "preservationists" are doing is piracy. I'd like to put a MK-48 into 'em.

[SandyCaesar]

I'm more in favor of organized whaling, as long as it's not overdone. If the populations can be maintained, then I have no issue.

[rubenandthejets]

Zero income from unharvested whales?

Whale watching is a multi million dollar industry in Australia and New Zealand.

Whale meat sits unsold in shops all over Japan. The only reason it's still happening here is because its a vote buying rort.