Obama picks man with no experience for CIA

[Sea Demon]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090106...e_090106030435

Political pick? I think so. We've seen Bush's FEMA pick as an inexperienced and reckless choice. What about this? This is far worse. Leon Panetta will be running the CIA. He has no experience in the intelligence community in any way. Nor does he have experience in anything similar. What the heck is Obama thinking? So basically our new President feels its more important to pay back friends than give value to the American taxpayer that funds it's operations.

[FIREWALL]

Demo Gloria Feinstein sure was miffed.

I think she thought she had it in the bag.

[AntEater]

After having read Weiners "Legacy of Ashes", I'd say:

1. The CIA as an institution is not what it was. It used to be primus inter pares, nowadays it is just one intelligence service of many, with many functions taken over by the Pentagon and private contractors.
The Office of DCI was abolished in 2005.

2. There's no one left with a real intelligence backround. The veteran officers that could've become the new head of the CIA were all pretty much burned by Iraqui weapons of mass destruction, failure to prevent 911, black sites and all that.
The only man left alive with real creds in intelligence and a (relatively) clean record is Bob Gates, and even he failed to predict the collapse of the USSR.
Also it is fitting that the US' most experienced intelligence officer is now SecDef, not head of the CIA, as the military does most of the intel work now.

3. From what I read about Panetta on the Wikipedia, he's a jurist and a bleeding heart liberal. Exactly what the CIA needs now.
After years of basically being permitted to do everything, somebody has to put them back into place.
Also, many administrations have given the post of DCI to people with zero intelligence experience. The most prominent example is George H. W. Bush.
AFAIK Robert Helms and Robert Gates were among the few DCIs who actually came from within the ranks of the service.

[Aramike]

Nation picks man with no experience for Presidency...

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090106...e_090106030435

Political pick? I think so. We've seen Bush's FEMA pick as an inexperienced and reckless choice. What about this? This is far worse. Leon Panetta will be running the CIA. He has no experience in the intelligence community in any way. Nor does he have experience in anything similar. What the heck is Obama thinking? So basically our new President feels its more important to pay back friends than give value to the American taxpayer that funds it's operations.

Well, since we will be letting our guard down again, as we did under Clinton, it probably doesn't matter who heads the CIA. Anyway, the Messiah will speak face to face with the evil-doers and hope for change.

[baggygreen]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Well, since we will be letting our guard down again, as we did under Clinton, it probably doesn't matter who heads the CIA. Anyway, the Messiah will speak face to face with the evil-doers and hope for change.

Well some of those crazies in the M.E. don't seem willing to play ball.

Didn't the SITE institute just release a tape of some wacko telling the muslim world that obama was a false man who brings absolutely no change to the US, and that the west will continue its crusade against islam, blah blah...?

How would mr Obama go havnig a face to face with these guys and hoping for change with them? I predict he would see change, if you have time to see the explosion from a suicide vest before one of these nutjobs he sits down with blows up...

[nikimcbee]

What I learned from the pick is this: We'll be attacked in 6 months.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Well, since we will be letting our guard down again, as we did under Clinton, it probably doesn't matter who heads the CIA. Anyway, the Messiah will speak face to face with the evil-doers and hope for change.

[Christopher Snow]

For my part I'm holding out hope that the "Obama isn't eligible to BE president anyway" stuff has some merit to it.

Supreme Court, tomorrow (1-9-2009)

If Berg's case ISN'T heard tomorrow, then I think I might well give up on the whole thing.


CS

[Enigma]

Won't you all be disappointed of Obama is a good President, or the CIA director doesn't get us "attacked in 6 months". Some of you need to take a long hard look at yourselves....

[Enigma]

Niki, you've proved yourself over and over to have the ability to post a picture you found on the internet, 'scuse me, internetS, but as I've asked you before, with no response of course, do you have any substance? Any original thought? Anything you haven't been spoon fed? Or is a dumb picture from some half assed web site all you have? Just sayin.....

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Enigma

Won't you all be disappointed of Obama is a good President, or the CIA director doesn't get us "attacked in 6 months". Some of you need to take a long hard look at yourselves....

now that is funny
:rotfl:

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[Enigma]

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Niki, you've proved yourself over and over to have the ability to post a picture you found on the internet, 'scuse me, internetS, but as I've asked you before, with no response of course, do you have any substance? Any original thought? Anything you haven't been spoon fed? Or is a dumb picture from some half assed web site all you have? Just sayin.....

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by Enigma

Won't you all be disappointed of Obama is a good President, or the CIA director doesn't get us "attacked in 6 months". Some of you need to take a long hard look at yourselves....

I doubt that anyone here would be disappointed if Obama has an effective presidency. People here aren't hoping to be hit by terrorism. They FEAR that Obama will leave us vulnerable to it due to Obama's own track-record.

I don't know how you contorted that fear into some perverse hope that we'd be hit, but alas...

Heh, besides, I thought it was the left that hoped for US failures... Didn't Harry Reid say "...this war is lost and the surge is not accomplishing anything as indicated by the extreme violence in Iraq yesterday."

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Aramike

I doubt that anyone here would be disappointed if Obama has an effective presidency. People here aren't hoping to be hit by terrorism. They FEAR that Obama will leave us vulnerable to it due to Obama's own track-record.

I don't know how you contorted that fear into some perverse hope that we'd be hit, but alas...

Heh, besides, I thought it was the left that hoped for US failures... Didn't Harry Reid say "...this war is lost and the surge is not accomplishing anything as indicated by the extreme violence in Iraq yesterday."

I think the problem is that he has zero experience, so who know's how he'll react. Looking at a different angle, I wonder how he'll react to another rwanda situation?