Silent Hunter 4 and Permanent Weather

tenakakhan_1981 · 10-20-08, 09:38 AM

Hi all, I've been playing Silent Hunter for a good long while now (version 1.4 TMO/PE/NSM), and one thing I have noticed is the lack of weather change. I set off from Pearl 22 days ago, the weather being Overcast/Light Fog/Wind Speed 6/Direction 234. Twenty two days later the weather is exactly the same, in every respect.

I wonder if anybody could help me shed some light on this? Is it fixable?

Of course it doesn't detract from the great gameplay too much, but I'm sure you'll agree that having to change your tactics based on the current weather is a very immersive feature. Not having to is, well, not.

I would be very grateful for input

SteamWake · 10-20-08, 09:47 AM

Never had static weather, in stock or modified.

Possibly a mod conflict?

tenakakhan_1981 · 10-20-08, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

Never had static weather, in stock or modified.

Possibly a mod conflict?

Could be, but nothing reported from others using the same combination. I was on the Ubi forums and one or two said they had had similar troubles, but nothing on the scale that I get them. Don't quote me on it, but it seems that when I start a patrol, the weather is dynamic right up until the first time I save....?

Diopos · 10-20-08, 11:08 AM

Do you save over a previus save file? This can cause probelms.:hmm:

Munchausen · 10-20-08, 11:13 AM

Playing without any big mods, it seems the weather stays fairly constant (calm) on the first patrol. But, by the third patrol, I find myself spending a lot of time watching the clouds roll by ... waiting for the seas to settle back down.

:hmm: Maybe the season and location (North or South Pacific) has something to do with the weather. Not unreasonable ... or unrealistic. I've read accounts where skippers had good weather for an entire patrol while others nearly went bonkers trying to make headway in storms that lasted weeks.

banjo · 10-20-08, 11:44 AM

Playing TMO and RSRDC for some months now, the wx does change albiet usually slowly, and then it will stay that way for seveal days to a couple weeks. I find the wx is more stable and not as bad as it was in SH3. Probably realistic given the locales.

SteamWake · 10-20-08, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Diopos

Do you save over a previus save file? This can cause probelms.:hmm:

Have never had a problem with this and I do it all the time. In fact I only have 6 save slots the two 'base' saves and 4 I roll through and overwright.

tenakakhan_1981 · 10-20-08, 12:28 PM

Well, I understand that realistically some weather is around for a long time on the ocean, but it's only where SH4 simulates exactly the same weather as I had when I started off, right down to the wind bearing and speed, that I begin to think it's got itself stuck.

I do use the same save file, and have only experienced this problem since using the larger mods. Perhaps this is a cause. I wonder whether there's some means to fix it?

Wilcke · 10-20-08, 12:41 PM

Over time I see a variety of weather during a patrol. At some point in these games it would be nice to get some type of weather generator ala Flight Simulator. Plug in historical weather for '41 through '45 and go on patrol. I know I am nuts.

Happy Hunting!

Orion2012 · 10-22-08, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tenakakhan_1981

Well, I understand that realistically some weather is around for a long time on the ocean, but it's only where SH4 simulates exactly the same weather as I had when I started off, right down to the wind bearing and speed, that I begin to think it's got itself stuck.

I do use the same save file, and have only experienced this problem since using the larger mods. Perhaps this is a cause. I wonder whether there's some means to fix it?

I've never had a problem with the weather changing. Green Fog yes, but never it getting stuck.

ancient46 · 10-22-08, 12:52 PM

Control N

Seminole · 10-22-08, 02:43 PM

The only weather consistency I've ever noticed is a 100% probabality of 15 MPH winds ,with corresponding heavy swells, whenever I make any surface enemy contact..... which has a duration corresponding precisely with the lenght of time required to sink it...

tenakakhan_1981 · 10-23-08, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ancient46

Control N

This seems to have worked. I knew of Ctrl N as a weather "cheat", but it actually appears to be a reset of sorts, and now the weather is beginning to alter slowly. I'll post back with updates so that others can have a solution of sorts.

wetwarev7 · 10-23-08, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by tenakakhan_1981

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Originally Posted by ancient46

Control N

This seems to have worked. I knew of Ctrl N as a weather "cheat", but it actually appears to be a reset of sorts, and now the weather is beginning to alter slowly. I'll post back with updates so that others can have a solution of sorts.

Control N? CONTROL N?!?

wtf? Why have I never heard of or seen this? What does it do, exactly? :hmm:

SteamWake · 10-23-08, 01:50 PM

Another undocumented 'feature' kind of like the mousewheel working for the sonar :rotfl:

It 'resets' the weather.

10-20-08, 09:38 AM	#1
tenakakhan_1981 Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Silent Hunter 4 and Permanent Weather Hi all, I've been playing Silent Hunter for a good long while now (version 1.4 TMO/PE/NSM), and one thing I have noticed is the lack of weather change. I set off from Pearl 22 days ago, the weather being Overcast/Light Fog/Wind Speed 6/Direction 234. Twenty two days later the weather is exactly the same, in every respect. I wonder if anybody could help me shed some light on this? Is it fixable? Of course it doesn't detract from the great gameplay too much, but I'm sure you'll agree that having to change your tactics based on the current weather is a very immersive feature. Not having to is, well, not. I would be very grateful for input

10-20-08, 11:08 AM	#4
Diopos Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Athens, the original one. Posts: 1,226 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Do you save over a previus save file? This can cause probelms.:hmm: __________________ - Oh God! They're all over the place! CRASH DIVE!!! - Ehm... we can't honey. We're in the car right now. - What?... er right... Doesn't matter! We'll give it a try anyway!

10-20-08, 12:28 PM	#8
tenakakhan_1981 Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Well, I understand that realistically some weather is around for a long time on the ocean, but it's only where SH4 simulates exactly the same weather as I had when I started off, right down to the wind bearing and speed, that I begin to think it's got itself stuck. I do use the same save file, and have only experienced this problem since using the larger mods. Perhaps this is a cause. I wonder whether there's some means to fix it? __________________

10-20-08, 12:41 PM	#9
Wilcke The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,441 Downloads: 234 Uploads: 0	Over time I see a variety of weather during a patrol. At some point in these games it would be nice to get some type of weather generator ala Flight Simulator. Plug in historical weather for '41 through '45 and go on patrol. I know I am nuts. Happy Hunting! __________________ Wilcke **For the best in Fleet Boats go to: Submarine Sim Central. http://forum.kickinbak.com/index.php Check out: A Brief Introduction to the Pacific Submarine War by Ducimus http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=128185 Operation Monsun plus OMEGU, the #1 ATO Solution for SH4! Signature Art by Gunfighter**

10-22-08, 12:52 PM	#11
ancient46 Officer Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 239 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 1	If you don't like the weather... Control N

10-20-08, 09:47 AM	#2
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Never had static weather, in stock or modified. Possibly a mod conflict?

10-20-08, 11:13 AM	#5
Munchausen Commodore Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 608 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 1	Playing without any big mods, it seems the weather stays fairly constant (calm) on the first patrol. But, by the third patrol, I find myself spending a lot of time watching the clouds roll by ... waiting for the seas to settle back down. :hmm: Maybe the season and location (North or South Pacific) has something to do with the weather. Not unreasonable ... or unrealistic. I've read accounts where skippers had good weather for an entire patrol while others nearly went bonkers trying to make headway in storms that lasted weeks.

10-20-08, 11:44 AM	#6
banjo Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 762 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	Playing TMO and RSRDC for some months now, the wx does change albiet usually slowly, and then it will stay that way for seveal days to a couple weeks. I find the wx is more stable and not as bad as it was in SH3. Probably realistic given the locales.

10-22-08, 02:43 PM	#12
Seminole Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,012 Downloads: 102 Uploads: 0	The only weather consistency I've ever noticed is a 100% probabality of 15 MPH winds ,with corresponding heavy swells, whenever I make any surface enemy contact..... which has a duration corresponding precisely with the lenght of time required to sink it... __________________

10-23-08, 01:50 PM	#15
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Another undocumented 'feature' kind of like the mousewheel working for the sonar :rotfl: It 'resets' the weather.