12 Year Old Girl Tells about the War in Osetia

Bruno Lotse · 08-15-08, 07:45 PM

Watch this about the war in Osetia
and freedom of speech a la Amerique

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=H8XI2Chc6uQ

sergbuto · 08-16-08, 03:03 AM

No, it is a further prove how bad Russians and kommunists are. They bribed the 12-year old girl (or maybe even terrorized and scared her to deáth) and then clevely fooled honest journalists from Fox News to conduct a propaganda.:rotfl:

AntEater · 08-16-08, 03:50 AM

Ok, since the Kuwaiti girl and the tales of the Iraqui soldiers at Kuwait hospitals you ought to be careful with teenage girls and tales of attrocities.
On the other hand, if Faux news cuts off something, it must be true, right??
:rotfl:
Especially since a press conference with Condi Rice was cut off as well when a russian reporter started asking embarrassing questions...

Happy Times · 08-16-08, 03:55 AM

She told she took cover from battle, she didnt say she witnessed ethnic cleansing. That was her aunt speaking of thousands of civilians killed, im still waiting for the Russians to prove their accusations. On the other hand there are reports confirmed by international observers of ethnic cleansing under the Russian occupied area.

joea · 08-16-08, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Times

She told she took cover from battle, she didnt say she witnessed ethnic cleansing. That was her aunt speaking of thousands of civilians killed, im still waiting for the Russians to prove their accusations. On the other hand there are reports confirmed by international observers of ethnic cleansing under the Russian occupied area.

Didn't you notice how they were cut off?? That's the main point here, we got propaganda vs. propaganda. Do you really think they would have cut the interview short if she said she saw Russian troops shooting people down??

Happy Times · 08-16-08, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by joea

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Originally Posted by Happy Times

She told she took cover from battle, she didnt say she witnessed ethnic cleansing. That was her aunt speaking of thousands of civilians killed, im still waiting for the Russians to prove their accusations. On the other hand there are reports confirmed by international observers of ethnic cleansing under the Russian occupied area.

Didn't you notice how they were cut off?? That's the main point here, we got propaganda vs. propaganda. Do you really think they would have cut the interview short if she said she saw Russian troops shooting people down??

They didnt say they saw Georgians shooting people down, the aunt was repeating Russian propaganda without proof.

Mush Martin · 08-16-08, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by AntEater

Ok, since the Kuwaiti girl and the tales of the Iraqui soldiers at Kuwait hospitals you ought to be careful with teenage girls and tales of attrocities.
On the other hand, if Faux news cuts off something, it must be true, right??
:rotfl:
Especially since a press conference with Condi Rice was cut off as well when a russian reporter started asking embarrassing questions...

This has been going on a lot longer than since the nineties
theres almost one for everyconflict, they just dont always
get exposed.

Platapus · 08-16-08, 06:13 AM

As for the 12 year old girl: I wonder if that 12 year old girl is related to Nayirah al-Sabah of gulf war fame. (anyone remember her?)

We need to see if Russia has hired the Hill & Knowlton PR firm.

joea · 08-16-08, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Times

They didnt say they saw Georgians shooting people down, the aunt was repeating Russian propaganda without proof.

So that means the Fox reporter was right to cut her off?

Why didn't just ask hard questions then? Again you're either ignoring the central point on purpose or just being thick.

joea · 08-16-08, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

As for the 12 year old girl: I wonder if that 12 year old girl is related to Nayirah al-Sabah of gulf war fame. (anyone remember her?)

We need to see if Georgia has hired the Hill & Knowlton PR firm.

Err you mean the Russians (in this case) don't you?

Platapus · 08-16-08, 10:14 AM

oops you are correct.

Fixed it. Good catch

It was interesting that the girl wanted to insist on stating the "proper" message at 1:40. I wonder who she kept looking at off screen?

Wolfehunter · 08-16-08, 04:23 PM

:hmm: Platapus I was wondering why she looked off screen too...Hmmm What was she afraid of?

Platapus · 08-16-08, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfehunter

:hmm: Platapus I was wondering why she looked off screen too...Hmmm What was she afraid of?

Missing her cue before the short airtime ended? Her "mother" also seemed pretty set on getting a message through.

There is so much propaganda around that we can't even trust a 12 year old girl. No wonder why I, and I am sure I am not alone, are so cynical.

Foxtrot · 08-16-08, 05:38 PM

FOX news?
Now why I am not surprised :hmm:

UnderseaLcpl · 08-16-08, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

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Originally Posted by Wolfehunter

:hmm: Platapus I was wondering why she looked off screen too...Hmmm What was she afraid of?

Missing her cue before the short airtime ended? Her "mother" also seemed pretty set on getting a message through.

There is so much propaganda around that we can't even trust a 12 year old girl. No wonder why I, and I am sure I am not alone, are so cynical.

Yeah, this type of stuff makes me afraid of the pwoer of propaganda too.

Using a 12-yr old, that is also a girl, conveys the notion of innocence. Many people are hard-pressed to convey a decent argument against something that is posited by someone so young and "pure".

Transiting a political argument onto a subject that is endearing because of the nature of humanity? It seems reprehensibe to me.

08-15-08, 07:45 PM	#1
Bruno Lotse Sonar Guy Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: HMCS Toronto (K 538) Posts: 385 Downloads: 480 Uploads: 0	12 Year Old Girl Tells about the War in Osetia Watch this about the war in Osetia and freedom of speech a la Amerique http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=H8XI2Chc6uQ __________________ Wie einst Lili Marleen.

08-16-08, 03:03 AM	#2
sergbuto Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,331 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	No, it is a further prove how bad Russians and kommunists are. They bribed the 12-year old girl (or maybe even terrorized and scared her to deáth) and then clevely fooled honest journalists from Fox News to conduct a propaganda.:rotfl: __________________ Serg's SH4 and SH3 pages

08-16-08, 03:50 AM	#3
AntEater Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 936 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Ok, since the Kuwaiti girl and the tales of the Iraqui soldiers at Kuwait hospitals you ought to be careful with teenage girls and tales of attrocities. On the other hand, if Faux news cuts off something, it must be true, right?? :rotfl: Especially since a press conference with Condi Rice was cut off as well when a russian reporter started asking embarrassing questions... __________________

08-16-08, 03:55 AM	#4
Happy Times Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 2,950 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	She told she took cover from battle, she didnt say she witnessed ethnic cleansing. That was her aunt speaking of thousands of civilians killed, im still waiting for the Russians to prove their accusations. On the other hand there are reports confirmed by international observers of ethnic cleansing under the Russian occupied area. __________________

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	As for the 12 year old girl: I wonder if that 12 year old girl is related to Nayirah al-Sabah of gulf war fame. (anyone remember her?) We need to see if Russia has hired the Hill & Knowlton PR firm. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right. Last edited by Platapus; 08-16-08 at 10:14 AM. Reason: Fixed typo

08-16-08, 10:14 AM	#11
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	oops you are correct. Fixed it. Good catch It was interesting that the girl wanted to insist on stating the "proper" message at 1:40. I wonder who she kept looking at off screen? __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

08-16-08, 04:23 PM	#12
Wolfehunter Crusty Capt. Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,752 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 25	:hmm: Platapus I was wondering why she looked off screen too...Hmmm What was she afraid of? __________________

08-16-08, 05:38 PM	#14
Foxtrot Ensign Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 231 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	FOX news? Now why I am not surprised :hmm: __________________ And when the plane got down to, 'The plane is 10 miles out,' the young man also said to the vice president, 'Do the orders still stand?' And the vice president turned and whipped his neck around and said, 'Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?' Well, at the time I didn't know what all that meant.