KI too hard

Mid · 07-30-08, 06:58 PM

hi,
a question. i play gwx v2.1. i find the KI of the enemys are very hard.
could i reduce it and how?

thanks for your answers

Mid

WOD · 07-30-08, 11:48 PM

I think GWX have been done to improve realism and immerson of SHIII. And what do you think how hard a Kaleun´s life have been in WWII...In my opinion you have two possibilities:

1.) Learning and getting better
2.) Play Vanilla SHIII patched to 1.4

And btw in the first 1,5 years of the war (with gwx 2.1) it´s easy to attack the allied shipping and avoid antisubmarine ships...and slipping away when you´ve been hunted is more then only possible too.

Just my two cents

P.S.: Don´t feel offended by this words, it´s just my personal opinion.

HanSolo78 · 07-31-08, 03:38 AM

As far as I know there also exists a mod that reduces KI for GWX.
But I don´t know if it is for GWX2.1
Alternatively you could try another supermod!
GWX is the supermod with the most demanding KI.

Pisces · 07-31-08, 04:19 AM

For those of the english language that wonder what KI means. It's german (künstliche Intelligenz) for AI (artificial intelligence). Sorry, I have no idea of a mod to dumb down our oponents.

But maybe you can give an example of when you lost against overwhelming KI/AI power. Maybe we can provide tips you haven't thought of.

danlisa · 07-31-08, 04:27 AM

Don't try to dumb down or reduce the AI, try to understand it better.

See this thread - http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=104377

danurve · 07-31-08, 09:16 AM

1.) Read the Manual.
2.) Please don't 'skim' though the manual, then come back here and caim you did read the manual and say your still have the same issue.

I have found the AI will take advantage of any mistakes you make, any.
SH3 w/GWX is not like FPS games where you can punch your way through. You have to learn how to get around the AI.
You and you alone are the only tool to use and learn how to score tonnage and survive a patrol, tips and hints are nice but in the end it's still you at the keyboard.
Anyone who claims they can tell you exactly how to win the game is a BS artist.
I'd put money on most people using T/C when the AI catches them with their pants down.
If your using a IX (sonar magnet) try an VII, it does not have the distance and less eels but it's a slender u-boat.
You could also try patroling a grid away from aircover, or stick to early years untill your boots are wet.
You will loose subs/careers along the way, big deal, start another one.

Sag75 · 07-31-08, 03:17 PM

I'm definitly agree...

If we put down the AI, SH3 becames just a shotting game with scores above every sunk ship, in an old fashioned '80 beach bar games..

Remember: we are still playing against an AI model... but in the reality the DDs were commanded by human intelligence!!

have a thought about..

07-30-08, 06:58 PM	#1
Mid Watch Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 24 Downloads: 268 Uploads: 0	KI too hard hi, a question. i play gwx v2.1. i find the KI of the enemys are very hard. could i reduce it and how? thanks for your answers Mid

07-31-08, 03:38 AM	#3
HanSolo78 Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Austria Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 3	As far as I know there also exists a mod that reduces KI for GWX. But I don´t know if it is for GWX2.1 Alternatively you could try another supermod! GWX is the supermod with the most demanding KI. __________________

07-31-08, 04:27 AM	#5
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	Don't try to dumb down or reduce the AI, try to understand it better. See this thread - http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=104377 __________________

07-31-08, 09:16 AM	#6
danurve The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 1,481 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 3	1.) Read the Manual. 2.) Please don't 'skim' though the manual, then come back here and caim you did read the manual and say your still have the same issue. I have found the AI will take advantage of any mistakes you make, any. SH3 w/GWX is not like FPS games where you can punch your way through. You have to learn how to get around the AI. You and you alone are the only tool to use and learn how to score tonnage and survive a patrol, tips and hints are nice but in the end it's still you at the keyboard. Anyone who claims they can tell you exactly how to win the game is a BS artist. I'd put money on most people using T/C when the AI catches them with their pants down. If your using a IX (sonar magnet) try an VII, it does not have the distance and less eels but it's a slender u-boat. You could also try patroling a grid away from aircover, or stick to early years untill your boots are wet. You will loose subs/careers along the way, big deal, start another one. __________________

07-31-08, 03:17 PM	#7
Sag75 XO Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 424 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	I'm definitly agree... If we put down the AI, SH3 becames just a shotting game with scores above every sunk ship, in an old fashioned '80 beach bar games.. Remember: we are still playing against an AI model... but in the reality the DDs were commanded by human intelligence!! have a thought about.. __________________ Betasom - XI Gruppo Sommergibili Atlantici http://www.betasom.it/forum/index.php

07-30-08, 11:48 PM	#2
WOD Gunner Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 92 Downloads: 103 Uploads: 0	I think GWX have been done to improve realism and immerson of SHIII. And what do you think how hard a Kaleun´s life have been in WWII...In my opinion you have two possibilities: 1.) Learning and getting better 2.) Play Vanilla SHIII patched to 1.4 And btw in the first 1,5 years of the war (with gwx 2.1) it´s easy to attack the allied shipping and avoid antisubmarine ships...and slipping away when you´ve been hunted is more then only possible too. Just my two cents P.S.: Don´t feel offended by this words, it´s just my personal opinion.

07-31-08, 04:19 AM	#4
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,904 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	For those of the english language that wonder what KI means. It's german (künstliche Intelligenz) for AI (artificial intelligence). Sorry, I have no idea of a mod to dumb down our oponents. But maybe you can give an example of when you lost against overwhelming KI/AI power. Maybe we can provide tips you haven't thought of.