Phantom ships

Rommer69 · 07-25-08, 12:59 PM

Hello guys,

It is my first post here and i want to ask if someone knows what´s wrong in this: in my second patrol in the american carrer, i´ve tried twice to go into a jap port; the two times i torpedoed a ship that instantly dissapeared, but the smoke, the bubbles in the water were still there, and of course, i don´t get credited for it.
Thank you in advance

I´m running SH4+U-boat 1.5, TMO 1.5 + RSRD

Orion2012 · 07-25-08, 04:33 PM

Not sure if this is the problem, but I remember reading that in some cases when you sank a ship in shallow water you wouldn't be given credit for it unless the total damage you did was greater then the "hit points" assigned to the ship. I believe it had something to do with part of the ship still being above water, due to the shallowness (is that a word) of the water.

Mush Martin · 07-25-08, 05:10 PM

Welcome aboard Rommer69 emjoy your stay.

were they by chance a pair of small subchasers
minding the harbour entrance.

could be your standard torp put them into orbit.
its very quick and easy to miss.
hit pause at the moment of impact and go to
free cam from where your sub is look at the
water spout and look for a flying object some
where between it and the sun that resembles
your target.

no seriously
it may be the deal.
M

Diopos · 07-25-08, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mush Martin

Welcome aboard Rommer69 emjoy your stay.

were they by chance a pair of small subchasers
minding the harbour entrance.

could be your standard torp put them into orbit.
its very quick and easy to miss.
hit pause at the moment of impact and go to
free cam from where your sub is look at the
water spout and look for a flying object some
where between it and the sun that resembles
your target.

no seriously
it may be the deal.
M

Are you suggesting that a boat can sink negatively? -10m, -50m, -100m captain we're sinking towards the stratosphere.
Doesn't it fall back in the water (whatever is left of it)!
If you take it down with the AA gun will it count?

Mush Martin · 07-25-08, 05:25 PM

if the boats damage model or physics model is drastically wrong
ie. low or no mass

or conversely if the torpedo is tweaked which is a different thing
but looks the same, thats how I learned the technique of shooting
down entire squadrons of fairey swordfish using Black Swan Class
sloops for AA ammunition.

its also whrere the technique for getting a screenie of it came from.

Mush Martin · 07-25-08, 05:29 PM

So ergo, if you have an early model of the game its possible you have
a badly modelled subchaser.

Diopos · 07-25-08, 05:38 PM

So when you shout "BLOW THEM OUT OF THE WATER" you mean it literally!!!!

Mush Martin · 07-25-08, 05:40 PM

As they like to say here in Canada Diopos, He shoots .... he scores.

LeeVanSpliff · 07-25-08, 06:33 PM

20 points for taking an aircraft down by hitting it with a flying freighter!

I bet the pilot won't see it coming.

07-25-08, 08:38 PM

Things to do:

Add "She's going up!!" Sound track.
:rotfl:

Mush Martin · 07-25-08, 09:46 PM

:rotfl:

Rommer69 · 07-26-08, 03:12 AM

Both times ships were torpedoed in shallow waters. i´m afraid i can´t use the external cam because of the carrer settings (it´s disabled) but maybe that´s the matter.
Do you know a solution for this?:hmm:

There is a thread in a spanish forum talking about this, but nobody seems to have a solution, here is the link, look specially to the second image (not as astonishing as the flying Black swan), but that was that happened to me.
http://www.24flotilla.com/foro/viewt...p?f=36&t=27383.

Thank you

Mush Martin · 07-26-08, 04:10 AM

I remain uncertain if its even still a problem I recall that at one
point there were a few , I think it was just an older version.

either way the fix was to reset the mass of the ship

CollateralDamage · 07-26-08, 05:20 AM

I've had this happen with a miniature sub and a landed H6 Search Plane. When I saw the minisub blow UP (literally) I was a bit dazzled and took like a dozen screenies of it.

Also I've seen some of the new IJN ships, that were added into the game by mods (i think), doing some pretty funky stuff. Like in Tokyo Bay there's a bunch of dessies that are going full reverse speed. I mean it's like they broke the shifts that allow them to go ahead and they just cruise backwards the same patrol route. Also the animation of the actual ship makes them look like they are traveling forward but actually they're going backward.

Anvart · 07-26-08, 11:21 AM

Good "flying phantom" ...

07-25-08, 12:59 PM	#1
Rommer69 A-ganger Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Spain Posts: 72 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Phantom ships Hello guys, It is my first post here and i want to ask if someone knows what´s wrong in this: in my second patrol in the american carrer, i´ve tried twice to go into a jap port; the two times i torpedoed a ship that instantly dissapeared, but the smoke, the bubbles in the water were still there, and of course, i don´t get credited for it. Thank you in advance I´m running SH4+U-boat 1.5, TMO 1.5 + RSRD

07-25-08, 05:10 PM	#3
Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Welcome aboard Rommer69 emjoy your stay. were they by chance a pair of small subchasers minding the harbour entrance. could be your standard torp put them into orbit. its very quick and easy to miss. hit pause at the moment of impact and go to free cam from where your sub is look at the water spout and look for a flying object some where between it and the sun that resembles your target. no seriously it may be the deal. M __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial

07-25-08, 05:25 PM	#5
Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	if the boats damage model or physics model is drastically wrong ie. low or no mass or conversely if the torpedo is tweaked which is a different thing but looks the same, thats how I learned the technique of shooting down entire squadrons of fairey swordfish using Black Swan Class sloops for AA ammunition. its also whrere the technique for getting a screenie of it came from. __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial Last edited by Mush Martin; 07-25-08 at 06:39 PM.

07-25-08, 05:29 PM	#6
Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	So ergo, if you have an early model of the game its possible you have a badly modelled subchaser. __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial

07-25-08, 05:38 PM	#7
Diopos Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Athens, the original one. Posts: 1,226 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	So when you shout "BLOW THEM OUT OF THE WATER" you mean it literally!!!! __________________ - Oh God! They're all over the place! CRASH DIVE!!! - Ehm... we can't honey. We're in the car right now. - What?... er right... Doesn't matter! We'll give it a try anyway!

07-25-08, 04:33 PM	#2
Orion2012 Commodore Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 611 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Not sure if this is the problem, but I remember reading that in some cases when you sank a ship in shallow water you wouldn't be given credit for it unless the total damage you did was greater then the "hit points" assigned to the ship. I believe it had something to do with part of the ship still being above water, due to the shallowness (is that a word) of the water.

07-25-08, 05:40 PM	#8
Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	As they like to say here in Canada Diopos, He shoots .... he scores. __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial

07-25-08, 06:33 PM	#9
LeeVanSpliff Machinist's Mate Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 127 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	20 points for taking an aircraft down by hitting it with a flying freighter! I bet the pilot won't see it coming. __________________ "I'll rant as well as thou." Hamlet, Act 5, Scene 1

07-25-08, 08:38 PM	#10
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Things to do: Add "She's going up!!" Sound track. :rotfl:

07-25-08, 09:46 PM	#11
Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	:rotfl: __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial

07-26-08, 03:12 AM	#12
Rommer69 A-ganger Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Spain Posts: 72 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Both times ships were torpedoed in shallow waters. i´m afraid i can´t use the external cam because of the carrer settings (it´s disabled) but maybe that´s the matter. Do you know a solution for this?:hmm: There is a thread in a spanish forum talking about this, but nobody seems to have a solution, here is the link, look specially to the second image (not as astonishing as the flying Black swan), but that was that happened to me. http://www.24flotilla.com/foro/viewt...p?f=36&t=27383. Thank you

07-26-08, 04:10 AM	#13
Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I remain uncertain if its even still a problem I recall that at one point there were a few , I think it was just an older version. either way the fix was to reset the mass of the ship __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial

07-26-08, 05:20 AM	#14
CollateralDamage Seaman Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kador region, Shemah solar system Posts: 32 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I've had this happen with a miniature sub and a landed H6 Search Plane. When I saw the minisub blow UP (literally) I was a bit dazzled and took like a dozen screenies of it. Also I've seen some of the new IJN ships, that were added into the game by mods (i think), doing some pretty funky stuff. Like in Tokyo Bay there's a bunch of dessies that are going full reverse speed. I mean it's like they broke the shifts that allow them to go ahead and they just cruise backwards the same patrol route. Also the animation of the actual ship makes them look like they are traveling forward but actually they're going backward.

07-26-08, 11:21 AM	#15
Anvart Admiral Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Russia ® Posts: 2,492 Downloads: 122 Uploads: 1	Good "flying phantom" ... __________________ Alex ® Moses said: "Don't create yourself an idol"...