Supreme court squashes Bush's Guantanamo policy

[Skybird]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/06/12/scotus/index.html

"Today's decision of the Supreme Court shows Americans that the American constitution is not as stretchable as their president has tried to make them believe, and that the principles of law and order are more than just an arbitrary knees-up." (Tagesschau-commentator on German first TV program ARD).

Before the Supreme Court's decision today, Bush's policy already had failed to impress the High Courts two times before.

John McCain commented that the camp on Kuba should be closed.

[PeriscopeDepth]

It's a bird! It's a plane! It's the constitution!

PD

[Officerpuppy]

I wonder what was the dissenting opinion.

[Skybird]

Or in Bush's interpretation: the constitution is nothing else but an UFO. Questionable that it even exists.

[SUBMAN1]

Last time I checked, the US Constitution was for Americans. Maybe the justices see the whole world as America. Seems to be so lately.

Time to start telling our lacky's like Germany what to do since we own them anyway.

-S

[PeriscopeDepth]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Last time I checked, the US Constitution was for Americans. Maybe the justices see the whole world as America. Seems to be so lately.

Time to start telling our lacky's like Germany what to do since we own them anyway.

-S

It sets a VERY dangerous precedent. If anybody can be snatched up with absolutely no rights if called an enemy combatant, what stops the government from doing this to an American citizen?

PD

[Ducimus]

Obligatory picture :rotfl:




Sorry, couldnt resist.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by PeriscopeDepth

It sets a VERY dangerous precedent. If anybody can be snatched up with absolutely no rights if called an enemy combatant, what stops the government from doing this to an American citizen?

PD

The Constitution. It protects our peoples and our laws. It is not Europes Constitution, nor is it the Middle Easts Constitution.

-S

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Last time I checked, the US Constitution was for Americans. Maybe the justices see the whole world as America. Seems to be so lately.

Time to start telling our lacky's like Germany what to do since we own them anyway.

-S

Technically they own you, you are in so much debt, that kind of attitude wont bring friends.

[PeriscopeDepth]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

The Constitution. It protects our peoples and our laws. It is not Europes Constitution, nor is it the Middle Easts Constitution.

-S

No. Two US citizens and one legal US resident have been imprisoned indefinitely without being charged/able to confront their accusers.

See:
Hamdi v. Rumsfeld
Padilla v. Rumsfeld
Google "al-marri"

PD

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Happy Times

Technically they own you, you are in so much debt, that kind of attitude wont bring friends.

Its not about friends. Its about the Supreme Court being outside of its jurisdiction. I don't see it as Un-Constitutional at all since our Constitution does not apply to foreigners. They can call it an illegal act based on another law, but not on our Constitution. That part bothers me.

-S

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by PeriscopeDepth

No. Two US citizens and one legal US resident have been imprisoned indefinitely without being charged/able to confront their accusers.

See:
Hamdi v. Rumsfeld
Padilla v. Rumsfeld
Google "al-marri"

PD

I agree with you on that part. Americans kept without trial is not OK with me.

-S

[FIREWALL]

Originally Posted by Happy Times

Technically they own you, you are in so much debt, that kind of attitude wont bring friends.

Your Dreaming :rotfl:

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Its not about friends. Its about the Supreme Court being outside of its jurisdiction. I don't see it as Un-Constitutional at all since our Constitution does not apply to foreigners. They can call it an illegal act based on another law, but not on our Constitution. That part bothers me.

-S

But it does apply to your citizens abroad having them in custody, so the loop hole is that you give them to someone else and oout of Guantanamo. Thats been done allready and what will happen, probably worse for them.
Have to add ive not lost any sleep thinking who is in Guantanamo, most probably deserve something worse. This is just good exsample that democracy and separation of powers works in the USA. Good for those to realise, that use more energy to critize USA, rather than pick one from the long list of murderous dictatorships.

[PeriscopeDepth]

Originally Posted by Happy Times

But it does apply to your citizens abroad having them in custody, so the loop hole is that you give them to someone else and oout of Guantanamo. Thats been done allready and what will happen, probably worse for them.
Have to add ive not lost any sleep thinking who is in Guantanamo, most probably deserve something worse. This is just good exsample that democracy and separation of powers works in the USA. Good for those to realise, that use more energy to critize USA, rather than pick one from the long list of murderous dictatorships.

I am not aware of any cases of extraordinary rendition being practiced on US citizens. Not to say I agree with the practice; but that is what you are implying, right?

PD