Obama on guns

[SUBMAN1]

From the horses *ss itself, so you can't debate where he stands on it.

-S

Dear Friend,

Thank you for contacting Senator Obama about gun laws and the Second Amendment. We appreciate hearing from you on this important issue.

As a former constitutional law professor, Senator Obama believes the Second Amendment creates an individual right, and he greatly respects the constitutional rights of Americans to bear arms. He will protect the rights of hunters and other law-abiding Americans to purchase, own, transport, and use guns. He also believes that the right is subject to reasonable and commonsense public safety regulation.

We must work to ensure that guns do not fall into the hands of criminals or the mentally ill through an effective background check system. When law enforcement agencies operate in concert at the federal, state, and local levels, the chances of solving a crime increases. Since 2003, the Tiahrt Amendment has restricted the ability of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) to share gun trace information with members of state and local law enforcement. The ATF has a wide-ranging database of gun information, yet Washington has threatened police officers with time in prison for attempting to access it. As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms
trade. Obama also favors commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals who shouldn’t have them. He supports closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. He also supports making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent, as such weapons belong on foreign battlefields and not on our streets. We also have to strike a reasonable balance between public safety and Second Amendment rights.

Senator Obama will continue to work for common-sense laws, like closing the gun show loophole, and effective law enforcement. He will also speak out against the culture of violence that traps so many of our young people.

To learn more about Senator Obama's plans to support the rights and traditions of sportsmen, please click here:

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/a...n_Sportsmen.pdf

Thank you again for contacting us on this important issue.


Sincerely,

Barack Obama

[Platapus]

Well "President" Obama can think what he wants, but it is congress that can make or change the laws. The same congress that has consistently resisted such drastic changes to the politically charged issue of gun ownership.

Obama may be for such drastic gun legislation, but the members of congress who want to be reelected by the people of their state, may have different agendas.

This might be a good time to start writing to your respective representative in congress to let him or her know YOUR views on this important topic.

[SUBMAN1]

True, but if you want a president to sign your 'bill', sometimes you must do a favor for him.

So quit thinking that way. The president of the US has much sway in the halls of Congress.

-S

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

So quit thinking that way. The president of the US has much sway in the halls of Congress.

-S

Well, with respect, perhaps you should quit with the doom and gloom way of thinking.

Let's see what will happen before reacting

[The WosMan]

Yes but with the Democrats back in power there have been many proposals for ammunition bans, micro-stamping, and bringing back the "assault" weapons ban. It is just a matter of time until they start up their old tricks again.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by The WosMan

Yes but with the Democrats back in power there have been many proposals for ammunition bans, micro-stamping, and bringing back the "assault" weapons ban. It is just a matter of time until they start up their old tricks again.

This pretty much sums it up. A Congress controlled by demo's and a president demo = guns are pretty much screwed. Probably time to stock up on soon to be banned rifles if he gets in office. Maybe I can make a fortune reselling them

-S

[Platapus]

This is based on the assumption that Democrats are ALL anti-gun. Something that has not been demonstrated.

[August]

Originally Posted by Platapus

This is based on the assumption that Democrats are ALL anti-gun. Something that has not been demonstrated.

They don't all have to be anti-gun just enough of them to make a majority in Congress

[Tchocky]

What's the Dem majority in the House, 35 or so?
And the Senate is tied, isn't it?

[August]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

What's the Dem majority in the House, 35 or so?
And the Senate is tied, isn't it?

51-49 I believe. One or two might be independants like Joe Leiberman who have aligned themselves with the Dems.

It's all academic really as Congressional majority could change hands again in November.

[danurve]

Anyone with half a brain can look up the Omens voting record and unless they are a complete fool then realise that responce is nothing but his team attempting to blow sunshine up your @ss.

Same deal with McCain. Both major US candidates are Tools for the anti's. This election is a major Sh|t sandwich.

[JetSnake]

Hope the Heller vs. DC case goes for favor of individual rights. That would make more "sensible" legislation look unsensible. Unless of course the SC gives a very narrow opinion.

[Steel_Tomb]

Why the hell would you want to own an assualt rifle anyway? Surely a hunting rifle/pistol would be adaquete for protection etc? Its not like your going on a crusade! I would welcome such legislation, could stop loonies getting hold of guns so easily. Hey, at least you can have them! We dont have any at all in the UK!

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Steel_Tomb

Why the hell would you want to own an assualt rifle anyway? Surely a hunting rifle/pistol would be adaquete for protection etc? Its not like your going on a crusade! I would welcome such legislation, could stop loonies getting hold of guns so easily. Hey, at least you can have them! We dont have any at all in the UK!

I think a better question is, Why not? Most people are not loonies, and an assualt rifle doesn't even appear in 1% of all gun crime! Rifles in general don't even make up 4% of gun crime! Its not a practical weapon to rob a store! It just looks ugly which is why its a target. Next, they will go after the next ugly thing. And on and on and on.........

Almost 100% chance that if a gun crime happens that its not an assualt rifle. Stupid legislators making stupid legislation. The actual number I believe is about 0.01%.

-S

PS. I take that back - Assault Rifles account for 0% - never has a legal fully auto gun been used in a crime by its owner.

PPS. The rifles they are talking about are sporting rifles - look alikes.

[August]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

PS. I take that back - Assault Rifles account for 0% - never has a legal fully auto gun been used in a crime by its owner.

That's not quite true Subman. There was a cop in Florida who used his legally owned Uzi to murder his wife and her lover a few years back. Of course his service weapon would have done the deed just as well but there you go.