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Old 06-16-08, 02:55 PM   #1
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Default CAG freighter?

What are they? Looks to have an aircraft boom on the foredeck. Are they some sort of commercial seaplane transport?

Link? Are they in the game's "museum"?

Quick search on wiki & etc turns up lots of the other CAG
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Old 06-16-08, 07:02 PM   #2
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What are they? Looks to have an aircraft boom on the foredeck. Are they some sort of commercial seaplane transport?

Link? Are they in the game's "museum"?

Quick search on wiki & etc turns up lots of the other CAG
Do you have a screenshot of one?
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Old 06-17-08, 07:10 AM   #3
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Are you referring to the CAM ship (Catapult Armed Merchantman) ? :hmm:
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Old 06-17-08, 09:38 AM   #4
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Are you referring to the CAM ship (Catapult Armed Merchantman) ? :hmm:
No, I think it's a TWT (Trebuchet Wielding Tanker), although I suppose it could be an OSO (Onager Slingin' Oiler)* or a BB (Ballista Boat).


*These are a bear to sink.
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Old 06-17-08, 03:11 PM   #5
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Are you referring to the CAM ship (Catapult Armed Merchantman) ? :hmm:
No, I think it's a TWT (Trebuchet Wielding Tanker), although I suppose it could be an OSO (Onager Slingin' Oiler)* or a BB (Ballista Boat).


*These are a bear to sink.
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CAM (Catapult Armed Freighter)



CAM (Catapult Armed Merchant) 1939


CAM (Catapult Armed Merchant) 1945
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Old 06-17-08, 08:38 PM   #6
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It was a measure taken after the RAF couldn't guarantee aircraft escort for all convoys. The merchants would carry so called Sea Hurricanes (or Hurricats?) which were stripped of their landing-gear. After they did their job, the pilots were left a few options:

1) Fly to a nearest airfield (often few were around at sea)
2) Ditch the aircraft near a freighter, and hope you get picked up
3) Bail out near a freighter, and hope you get picked up (or seen at all)

I've not seen any of those CAM's being armed with a catapult yet though (1941 here), can they actually launch aircraft?
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Old 06-17-08, 09:40 PM   #7
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Bah ive never seen them in action...........I missed something important! And how tthe plane is going to do when its fuel is almost empty . How the crew will manage to get the plane back on the ship.
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Old 06-18-08, 02:28 AM   #8
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No, they don't launch aircraft in game.....and IIRC they aren't used either.....forgot the reason why :hmm:
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That's because aircraft don't launch from ships. Am I right?:hmm:

I encounter aircraft carriers and I don't see them (not visually) launching aircraft.
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I'm not 100% sure the ship even makes an appearance.....I've yet to see one other than in missions I have personally scripted.
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And how tthe plane is going to do when its fuel is almost empty . How the crew will manage to get the plane back on the ship.
Read the reply just above your original post
The aircraft were never intended to be recovered, they were 'sacrificed' to defend the convoy. But the pilots usually were recovered, hehe.
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Old 06-18-08, 12:49 PM   #12
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The ship has a chance to show in some Atlantic and Murmansk convoys
At least in GWX 2.1 it does
Even the one in the community mod is a type=100 so has a chance to show in above convoys

As to whether it spawns aircraft - thats another issue
IIRC it was Steibler who said aircraft will spawn from units providing there is an airfield in range - I guess a carrier in range would work also
At least I think thats the way it went
Carriers spawn them no problem - you wont ever see one take off or land but they do appear
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Old 06-18-08, 01:01 PM   #13
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BBW, thanks for that info, I have`nt seen one as yet, but have the Community Mod enabled, and have seen quite a few ships from it. Just last night I ran into a mixed group of four ships from the Community Mod, escorted by a Black Swan. I took out the Black Swan, then picked off the rest. Puts
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Old 06-18-08, 02:35 PM   #14
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Yeah the game can either add in one of the CAM ships or a coal freighter if the convoy includes a type=100 entry

There 43 type=100 RND entries so you wont be seeing them all the time as you shouldnt be
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Old 06-18-08, 03:17 PM   #15
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Default launching\landing on carriers is implemented in sh4 (sh3 i dunno)

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That's because aircraft don't launch from ships. Am I right?:hmm:

I encounter aircraft carriers and I don't see them (not visually) launching aircraft.
I use the radar in sh4+addon to detect the exact location of japanese carriers at daytime without having to enable external camera well beyond hydro and visible detectionrange on the map. Every 4-7s i can watch planes popping up or disappearing. I see them making drastic course changes just after or before landing/ launching. I havnt encountered any carriers in sh3 yet so i cant say if its the same in sh3.
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