Torpedo Question

Frame57 · 06-13-08, 06:08 PM

I was experimenting with SCX. I made a mission where I was going to Intercept a rogue French Rubis and SSBN and send them to Davy Jones' locker. I use autocrew well because that is there job. I get within 8000 yards and fire 2 ADCAPS. The fish swim in the opposite direction, I fire 2 more, same thing. The TMA was fine, so I do not get this. I have sank many enemy subs with this game both with and without autocrew, so I know what I am doing, but I have never had my fish do this. Anyone got an Idea or is this a problem with the SCX mod?

Blacklight · 06-14-08, 12:04 AM

I don't think there's a problem with the mod because I use it and have never had any torpedo problems. Your TMA was probably off or you selected the wrong target by accident. Did you have Show Truth enabled ? If that was the case, and your TMA was wrong, it would show the target in it's real location rather than where your TMA shows it to be. Try doing the same with Show Truth turned off. Look where you think the target is, and then turn on Show Truth. If the target is moved to a totally different location, your TMA is off.

If you're relying on the towed array, it does make an echo signal appear on the opposite side that it sees the signal and you have to determine which is the real signal. Perhaps you were targeting the wrong signal ?

Frame57 · 06-14-08, 12:14 PM

I used the show truth and quick launch when this happened. The TMA was accurate. I checked the rules of engagement and I did not have wartime selected, I do not know if that matters or not but I will run the scenario again just to see.

Sub Sailor · 06-15-08, 10:11 AM

This happens and it seems prevalent when you have show truth on and just click on the Target to fire. You can take wire control of your fish and steer it. Why, I don't have a clue. I have even let the fish run and got hit myself.
I seldom use show truth, unless I am developing a mission and checking if I am getting what I want.
This is not much help but it appears to be some quirk in the AI, I have seen I it with Harpoons also.

Ron Banks MMCM(SS), USN(Ret)

Frame57 · 06-15-08, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sub Sailor

This happens and it seems prevalent when you have show truth on and just click on the Target to fire. You can take wire control of your fish and steer it. Why, I don't have a clue. I have even let the fish run and got hit myself.
I seldom use show truth, unless I am developing a mission and checking if I am getting what I want.
This is not much help but it appears to be some quirk in the AI, I have seen I it with Harpoons also.

Ron Banks MMCM(SS), USN(Ret)

You are right about that Ron. I had show truth on when this occurred. I have the same problem using SUBROCS as well. I asked out TMC once about ADCAPS and it's effectiveness against countermeasures and he told me that the ADCAP cannot be fooled by them, that if your solution is right, they are dead. Do not know if he was right but it sure made me feel good if we ever needed to use them.

Blacklight · 06-15-08, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sub Sailor
This happens and it seems prevalent when you have show truth on and just click on the Target to fire. You can take wire control of your fish and steer it. Why, I don't have a clue. I have even let the fish run and got hit myself.
I seldom use show truth, unless I am developing a mission and checking if I am getting what I want.
This is not much help but it appears to be some quirk in the AI, I have seen I it with Harpoons also.

Ron Banks MMCM(SS), USN(Ret)

Ahh.. that probably explains why I've never seen this issue. I usually never play with Show Truth on and I never click on a map target to fire. I always do everything from the Weapons stations.

06-13-08, 06:08 PM	#1
Frame57 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: 1300 feet on the crapper Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Torpedo Question I was experimenting with SCX. I made a mission where I was going to Intercept a rogue French Rubis and SSBN and send them to Davy Jones' locker. I use autocrew well because that is there job. I get within 8000 yards and fire 2 ADCAPS. The fish swim in the opposite direction, I fire 2 more, same thing. The TMA was fine, so I do not get this. I have sank many enemy subs with this game both with and without autocrew, so I know what I am doing, but I have never had my fish do this. Anyone got an Idea or is this a problem with the SCX mod?

06-14-08, 12:04 AM	#2
Blacklight Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,507 Downloads: 145 Uploads: 0	I don't think there's a problem with the mod because I use it and have never had any torpedo problems. Your TMA was probably off or you selected the wrong target by accident. Did you have Show Truth enabled ? If that was the case, and your TMA was wrong, it would show the target in it's real location rather than where your TMA shows it to be. Try doing the same with Show Truth turned off. Look where you think the target is, and then turn on Show Truth. If the target is moved to a totally different location, your TMA is off. If you're relying on the towed array, it does make an echo signal appear on the opposite side that it sees the signal and you have to determine which is the real signal. Perhaps you were targeting the wrong signal ? __________________ Be my friend or be a mushroom cloud. "I am coming at you. You will explode in a couple of minutes !"

06-15-08, 10:11 AM	#4
Sub Sailor Commander Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Orofino, Idaho Posts: 443 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	I don't know why. This happens and it seems prevalent when you have show truth on and just click on the Target to fire. You can take wire control of your fish and steer it. Why, I don't have a clue. I have even let the fish run and got hit myself. I seldom use show truth, unless I am developing a mission and checking if I am getting what I want. This is not much help but it appears to be some quirk in the AI, I have seen I it with Harpoons also. Ron Banks MMCM(SS), USN(Ret)

06-14-08, 12:14 PM	#3
Frame57 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: 1300 feet on the crapper Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I used the show truth and quick launch when this happened. The TMA was accurate. I checked the rules of engagement and I did not have wartime selected, I do not know if that matters or not but I will run the scenario again just to see.