Cow 'emissions' more damaging to planet than CO2 from cars

[Fish]

By Geoffrey Lean, Environment Editor
Sunday, 10 December 2006
Meet the world's top destroyer of the environment. It is not the car, or the plane,or even George Bush: it is the cow.

A United Nations report has identified the world's rapidly growing herds of cattle as the greatest threat to the climate, forests and wildlife. And they are blamed for a host of other environmental crimes, from acid rain to the introduction of alien species, from producing deserts to creating dead zones in the oceans, from poisoning rivers and drinking water to destroying coral reefs.
The 400-page report by the Food and Agricultural Organisation, entitled Livestock's Long Shadow, also surveys the damage done by sheep, chickens, pigs and goats. But in almost every case, the world's 1.5 billion cattle are most to blame. Livestock are responsible for 18 per cent of the greenhouse gases that cause global warming, more than cars, planes and all other forms of transport put together.
Burning fuel to produce fertiliser to grow feed, to produce meat and to transport it - and clearing vegetation for grazing - produces 9 per cent of all emissions of carbon dioxide, the most common greenhouse gas. And their wind and manure emit more than one third of emissions of another, methane, which warms the world 20 times faster than carbon dioxide.
Livestock also produces more than 100 other polluting gases, including more than two-thirds of the world's emissions of ammonia, one of the main causes of acid rain.
Ranching, the report adds, is "the major driver of deforestation" worldwide, and overgrazing is turning a fifth of all pastures and ranges into desert.Cows also soak up vast amounts of water: it takes a staggering 990 litres of water to produce one litre of milk.
Wastes from feedlots and fertilisers used to grow their feed overnourish water, causing weeds to choke all other life. And the pesticides, antibiotics and hormones used to treat them get into drinking water and endanger human health.
The pollution washes down to the sea, killing coral reefs and creating "dead zones" devoid of life. One is up to 21,000sqkm, in the Gulf of Mexico, where much of the waste from US beef production is carried down the Mississippi.
The report concludes that, unless drastic changes are made, the massive damage done by livestock will more than double by 2050, as demand for meat increases.
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[TDK1044]

You can also add cyclic solar events (sunspots) to the equation. There is a direct correlation between solar events and climatic changes on this planet. Methene gas from the wetlands is also an issue.

Undoubtedly we must monitor closely our impact on our planet, but much of the global warming argument put forward by the left is total nonsense, and has to do with them wanting a change to our economic structure and way of life and has nothing to do with a realistic scientific assesment of our planet's climate.

I think that finally more and more people are starting to see the GW issue for what it is....about time.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

You can also add cyclic solar events (sunspots) to the equation. There is a direct correlation between solar events and climatic changes on this planet. Methene gas from the wetlands is also an issue.

Undoubtedly we must monitor closely our impact on our planet, but much of the global warming argument put forward by the left is total nonsense, and has to do with them wanting a change to our economic structure and way of life and has nothing to do with a realistic scientific assesment of our planet's climate.

I think that finally more and more people are starting to see the GW issue for what it is....about time.

Your still in Stage One: Denial

See my other post:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136106

[TDK1044]

:rotfl:

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Does anyone else think its hilarious that the UN have studied Cow Farts?

They do bugger all else, so it doesnt suprise me per se..

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips

Does anyone else think its hilarious that the UN have studied Cow Farts?

They do bugger all else, so it doesnt suprise me per se..

Well someone had to do it.

[d@rk51d3]

Soooooooo, who want's to pull my finger?

[mrbeast]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

You can also add cyclic solar events (sunspots) to the equation. There is a direct correlation between solar events and climatic changes on this planet. Methene gas from the wetlands is also an issue.

Undoubtedly we must monitor closely our impact on our planet, but much of the global warming argument put forward by the left is total nonsense, and has to do with them wanting a change to our economic structure and way of life and has nothing to do with a realistic scientific assesment of our planet's climate.

I think that finally more and more people are starting to see the GW issue for what it is....about time.

Solar activity is way overstated as a major cause of global warming.

Scientists have delivered the final blow to the theory that recent global warming can be explained by variations in the natural cycles of the Sun - a favourite refuge for climate sceptics who dismiss the influence of greenhouse-gas emissions.

http://www.independent.co.uk/environ...ng-456785.html

While a component of recent global warming may have been caused by the increased solar activity of the last solar cycle, that component was very small compared to the effects of additional greenhouse gases. According to a NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) press release, "...the solar increases do not have the ability to cause large global temperature increases...greenhouse gases are indeed playing the dominant role..." The Sun is once again less bright as we approach solar minimum, yet global warming continues.

http://solar-center.stanford.edu/sun...glob-warm.html

The gradual increase in global temperatures is getting harder and harder to pin on the Sun and its energy output variability. The Sun has a variation in how much energy it outputs but this variability is only about one tenth of one percent. The pattern of atmospheric heating since the 1960s is showing an increase with the increase in human activity (industry, transportation, power generation) and neither are showing signs of slowing down…

http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02...lobal-warming/

Climate change is a contentious issue among the public. One of the main arguments made by people who claim that climate change is not caused by humans states that recent global warming is a result of changes in solar activity. Indeed, a 2007 broadcast on Channel4 titled "The Great Global Warming Swindle" tried to make exactly that case.
This case is based on the idea that changes in solar activity influence cloud formation, which influences the climate. The original concept dates back at least as far as a 1975 paper published by the American Meteorological Society, but it's recently been revived as an alternative explanation to the recent rise in global temperatures.

http://arstechnica.com/journals/scie...arming-swindle

Solar radiation is not the cause of recent global warming, two scientists say in a report published by Britain's Royal Society, the country's science organization.
The study was undertaken partly to rebut a TV documentary that argued natural solar radiation, not human activity, is the cause of global warming, the BBC reported.

http://www.nowpublic.com/sun_does_no...rming_uk_study

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

You can also add cyclic solar events (sunspots) to the equation. There is a direct correlation between solar events and climatic changes on this planet.

Methinks you should maybe research that thought a little bit.

[TDK1044]

http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.co...W_nonsense.pdf

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.co...W_nonsense.pdf

Originally Posted by 21stcenturysciencetech

“Carbon offsets” and other mechanisms to relieve the
“carbon footprint” of the industrialized sector are simply new
ways to keep the Third World poor and in the dark, with no access

to advanced technology.

Thats a new twist. It's a plot against the third world.

Here's a Stanford study.
http://solar-center.stanford.edu/sun...glob-warm.html

[TDK1044]

Hey, if you buy the GW nonsense that's fine with me. I will continue to treat it with the contempt it deserves. It's politically motivated nonsense.

[Fish]

http://solar-center.stanford.edu/sun...ot-co2.svg.png

The sun aye.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Fish

Your still in Stage One: Denial

See my other post:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136106

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Denial - now that is funny!

Let me ask this question - what made this massive spike in global warming in the 1990's? Industry did quadruple overnight, so its complete BS with numbers manipulation written all over it. At least some people still have a brain left. I see some on this forum are lacking one however.

-S

[Tchocky]

If it's solar cycles, then why have we never seen this before?

Cyclical implies repetition. Current warming is considerably faster than anything we've seen before.

It ain't the sun.

The sun has an effect, of course. Just not that kind of effect.

Oh guys, it's not farts, cows belch methane.