Are You Comfortable With Muslims/Islamics?

Stealth Hunter · 03-28-08, 07:07 PM

This is a general question. It is preferred if you make a post with details on your choice and justification, but you don't have to if you don't want to (of course).

SUBMAN1 · 03-28-08, 07:13 PM

I don't hate them. I just disagree with their ideals. Is that a good way to put it?

-S

Stealth Hunter · 03-28-08, 07:14 PM

Yeah, that's actually a great way to put it. Very peaceful approach.

Happy Times · 03-28-08, 07:24 PM

I dont care of race or religions as long as they respect our laws and culture. We have the right to demand that. Can we go to Iran or Saudi Arabia and live like here? No, and i wouldnt move there. So why would anyone that hates us move here?
To destroy us?

HunterICX · 03-28-08, 07:29 PM

I see no problems with Muslims, as far as the Islam goes...well you have the Normal ones, the ones that like in the rest of the world Eats, rests, works and enjoys life.

its the Nutcrackers out there I really dont feel comfortable with, destroying it for the rest of the Muslim people.
the nutcrackers that are out to Demand Respect , and even use lethal force to make their points. The ones that scream Violence upon the western people.
I better stop it just pisses me off to speak too much about the nutcrackers.

HunterICX

Happy Times · 03-28-08, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED

What is the Feck going on here on the GT Forum?

Three Fecking Islam/Muslim threads in one day!

Fecking eke anyone would think is that all there is to talk about.

That's it I'm out of here for a week or maybe two.

Bored to the back teeth with this.

You dont have to read them. Start your own about something trivial.

STEED · 03-28-08, 07:36 PM

Post deleted by me.

Good night.

Letum · 03-28-08, 07:37 PM

Must....resist....temptation.....

Must not make...parody post...*strains*

Happy Times · 03-28-08, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED

Post deleted by me.

Good night.

Sorry i missed it, PM me if you have problem

Stealth Hunter · 03-28-08, 07:45 PM

Yeah, I'm off SS for the night. Got a horrid headache. We'll continue this discussion in the morning.

Letum · 03-28-08, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

We'll continue this discussion in the morning.

You think this will still be unlocked then?

kiwi_2005 · 03-28-08, 08:07 PM

Ask me couple of yrs back and i would of said Yes!. Now in a nutshell i have no problem with them weary of them yes. But its not like im going to cross the street to avoid them.

I watched this vid last night which has muslim belief as its has quotes from the Qu-ran(sp) Great documentary on Death. lol Seriously it makes you think about life in general.

From the day your born your on the countdown to your death no matter who you are what you do the end is the same for everyone of us. Death. So really life is just meaningless you strive to better yourself you do good things you achieve great things personally then you die...

Quote:

Nobody knows what will happen in the next few hours or even in seconds. Time flies in the countdown to one’s own death. Every day brings that predestined day closer. In this film you are invited to see the true nature of our worldly existence. It is a short and deceptive life in which worldly desires seem fascinating and full of promise, but the truth is much different.

Documentary: The Truth of the life of this World.
http://video.google.de/videoplay?doc...85608534320808

Ducimus · 03-28-08, 08:15 PM

No, not comfortable.

I have NEVER heard anything GOOD about them. Nor have i SEEN anything good. My opinion and distrust increased during the "cartoonist riots". Up until that point, i thought it was just the extremists. After that point, i think that the majority of them ARE extremists. In one fell swoop, they proved the cartoonists caricatures corrrect.

I have yet to have heard, or seen, any reason to be comfortable.

Skybird · 03-28-08, 08:20 PM

What sombody labels himself as, is not my concern, and does not interest me. My quarrel is with the ideology of islam as it is defining itself by the Quran and the tradition of Hadith and the laws of Sharia. that includes that i have problems with everybody being in complianan ce with this truly quranic islam, and I fail to see that there can be any other Islam deserving this name.

I dealt with people calling themselves muslim, but who were not Muslim by Quranic definition. fine.

I also dealt with people calling themselves muslim, and really being in conformity with Quran's understanding of what islam is. Very big problem. I consider them to be enemies, and very often they behaved hostile or arrogant indeed.

and i dealt with people who are the first of the above, but do not care or ignore the existence of the latter. these I see as potentially problematic, for they may not be radicals, but their ignorrance allows to strengthen these socalled racils and deceive about their motivation - but for reasons of comfortable, lazy habits, not because a true and deep-anchored hostility on their mind. they are "Mitläufer" (fellow travellers ?)

As I see it it there are many shades of calling oneself Muslim - but there is only one colour of true islamic Muslimship. and the latter is the islam the Quran is meaning. Everything else is anything - but not Islam.

That'S why I say that islam cannot be refomred, but eventually societies can be influenced that finally maybe they do not reform Islam, biut move beyond islam alltogether and repalkce it with something that is not Islam for sure, but something different and something better.

as the poll is not precise in what kind of Muslim it means, I take the name by it'S word and refer to Muslims as the Quran defines islam. Thus, option three from me, of course. i do not hate them. but I identify them as an enemy to all non-muslim mankind, and oppose them with all determination, because there is no other choice.

nikimcbee · 03-28-08, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

No, not comfortable.

I have NEVER heard anything GOOD about them. Nor have i SEEN anything good. My opinion and distrust increased during the "cartoonist riots". Up until that point, i thought it was just the extremists. After that point, i think that the majority of them ARE extremists. In one fell swoop, they proved the cartoonists caricatures corrrect.

I have yet to have heard, or seen, any reason to be comfortable.

This is more or less what I wanted to say. When I lived in Russia, the only people that ever gave us problems were Arabic guys!

We had a few girls in our student group, and they would follow them constantly. We had to set a few things straight with them. For me personally, Sept. 11th has ruined it for me. I am interested in the Arabic language(s) and culture, but Islam, I have zero interest in. At this point, Islam has some serious PR issues to resolve, before I trust anybody that follows it.

View Poll Results: Are you comfortable with the Muslims/Islamics?
Yes	31	55.36%
Somewhat	2	3.57%
No	16	28.57%
I hate them, utterly HATE them.	7	12.50%
Voters: 56. You may not vote on this poll

03-28-08, 07:07 PM	#1
Stealth Hunter Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Y'ha-Nthlei Posts: 4,262 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Are You Comfortable With Muslims/Islamics? This is a general question. It is preferred if you make a post with details on your choice and justification, but you don't have to if you don't want to (of course).

03-28-08, 07:13 PM	#2
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I don't hate them. I just disagree with their ideals. Is that a good way to put it? -S __________________

03-28-08, 07:24 PM	#4
Happy Times Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 2,950 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I dont care of race or religions as long as they respect our laws and culture. We have the right to demand that. Can we go to Iran or Saudi Arabia and live like here? No, and i wouldnt move there. So why would anyone that hates us move here? To destroy us? __________________

03-28-08, 07:29 PM	#5
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I see no problems with Muslims, as far as the Islam goes...well you have the Normal ones, the ones that like in the rest of the world Eats, rests, works and enjoys life. its the Nutcrackers out there I really dont feel comfortable with, destroying it for the rest of the Muslim people. the nutcrackers that are out to Demand Respect , and even use lethal force to make their points. The ones that scream Violence upon the western people. I better stop it just pisses me off to speak too much about the nutcrackers. HunterICX __________________

03-28-08, 07:14 PM	#3
Stealth Hunter Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Y'ha-Nthlei Posts: 4,262 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Yeah, that's actually a great way to put it. Very peaceful approach.

03-28-08, 07:36 PM	#7
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Post deleted by me. Good night. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

03-28-08, 07:37 PM	#8
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Must....resist....temptation..... Must not make...parody post...strains __________________

03-28-08, 07:45 PM	#10
Stealth Hunter Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Y'ha-Nthlei Posts: 4,262 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Yeah, I'm off SS for the night. Got a horrid headache. We'll continue this discussion in the morning.

03-28-08, 08:15 PM	#13
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	No, not comfortable. I have NEVER heard anything GOOD about them. Nor have i SEEN anything good. My opinion and distrust increased during the "cartoonist riots". Up until that point, i thought it was just the extremists. After that point, i think that the majority of them ARE extremists. In one fell swoop, they proved the cartoonists caricatures corrrect. I have yet to have heard, or seen, any reason to be comfortable.

03-28-08, 08:20 PM	#14
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,605 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	What sombody labels himself as, is not my concern, and does not interest me. My quarrel is with the ideology of islam as it is defining itself by the Quran and the tradition of Hadith and the laws of Sharia. that includes that i have problems with everybody being in complianan ce with this truly quranic islam, and I fail to see that there can be any other Islam deserving this name. I dealt with people calling themselves muslim, but who were not Muslim by Quranic definition. fine. I also dealt with people calling themselves muslim, and really being in conformity with Quran's understanding of what islam is. Very big problem. I consider them to be enemies, and very often they behaved hostile or arrogant indeed. and i dealt with people who are the first of the above, but do not care or ignore the existence of the latter. these I see as potentially problematic, for they may not be radicals, but their ignorrance allows to strengthen these socalled racils and deceive about their motivation - but for reasons of comfortable, lazy habits, not because a true and deep-anchored hostility on their mind. they are "Mitläufer" (fellow travellers ?) As I see it it there are many shades of calling oneself Muslim - but there is only one colour of true islamic Muslimship. and the latter is the islam the Quran is meaning. Everything else is anything - but not Islam. That'S why I say that islam cannot be refomred, but eventually societies can be influenced that finally maybe they do not reform Islam, biut move beyond islam alltogether and repalkce it with something that is not Islam for sure, but something different and something better. as the poll is not precise in what kind of Muslim it means, I take the name by it'S word and refer to Muslims as the Quran defines islam. Thus, option three from me, of course. i do not hate them. but I identify them as an enemy to all non-muslim mankind, and oppose them with all determination, because there is no other choice. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 03-28-08 at 08:30 PM.