Obama's bra 54 Double D!

[NEON DEON]

Black Pastor lays into Obama and the black voters who voted for him.

"You hipocrates you. you spineless you know what--- you dont have enough sense to pour piss out of a boot and your talkin about obama as your President."


When I first looked at this video 5 hours ago it had around 75 k views. It is over 800,000 views now.


Ouch!

[Sailor Steve]

A couple of instant reactions:

1) Way to preach the gospel of Christ, 'reverend'!

2) Who does he want for president? Sounds like he's using Bill to campaign for Hillary.

[Platapus]

I thought that Senator Obama's speech on Monday (I think) was good. Straight forward and he addressed the concerns.

People who attend church are not mindless zombies. Just because a soon to retire pastor vents does not mean that everyone in the church is going to buy it.

Just because Senator Obama said that this pastor was his spiritual mentor does not mean that he blindly accepts everything he said. I have have had many mentors in both my professional and academic lives. I have not had one that I did not strongly disagree with on some matter. Does that mean they can't be my mentor?

No, it does mean that I learned from them. I always learned from my mentors. Sometimes I learned what to do and other times I learned what not to do.

It is quite probable that Senator Obama listened to this crap and disagreed. If I were to sever contact with everyone I ever disagreed with I would be a lonely man indeed.

To me this is a non-issue being fanned by the Senator Clinton team.

There are other more important things you can either like or dislike Senator Obama about then what some jerk in his church said before retiring.

[NEON DEON]

It is not just the Pastor. It is written into church doctrine and documented on their web site for all to see. The church Obama has attended for almost 20 years.

Obama has openly contradicted his own statement on Wright several times this past week. One minute he says he never heard or knew of it the next he is saying before the campaign started he never knew then back again to never heard of it at all before now.

http://www.tucc.org/black_value_system.html

[AVGWarhawk]

@Playtapus:

Birds of a feather flock together. I do not believe for a instant that if someone such as Obama disagrees with his pastor would continue to sit in the pew for 20 years. Read the church doctrine. In this instance is there guilt by association? I believe there is.

[sonar732]

If Obama would've made his comments when all of this came about a long time ago, he wouldn't be in the pickle that he's in now. I remember when he was thinking about running and they were questioning his relationship with his pastor.

[StarFox]

he was born trash?

You cannot be born trash, you have to earn it though your actions. My father was black and my mother is white, does that make me trash too? From the way he mentions it, yes I guess I am trash.

Guess what, I have done more with my life then I ever thought possiable. I have fought for a ship that is an American Icon. I have worked my way up from a failing student in High school to a College student that is rather succesful. I am not trash.

Reverend, you can kiss both cheeks of my ass

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

@Playtapus:

Birds of a feather flock together. I do not believe for a instant that if someone such as Obama disagrees with his pastor would continue to sit in the pew for 20 years. Read the church doctrine. In this instance is there guilt by association? I believe there is.

Yeah, Oprah went there and left. Kinda makes you wonder:hmm:

I agree with Sailor Steve:
A couple of instant reactions:

1) Way to preach the gospel of Christ, 'reverend'!

2) Who does he want for president? Sounds like he's using Bill to campaign for Hillary.

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

@Playtapus:

Birds of a feather flock together. I do not believe for a instant that if someone such as Obama disagrees with his pastor would continue to sit in the pew for 20 years. Read the church doctrine. In this instance is there guilt by association? I believe there is.

Sound judgement.

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by StarFox

he was born trash?

You cannot be born trash, you have to earn it though your actions. My father was black and my mother is white, does that make me trash too? From the way he mentions it, yes I guess I am trash.

Guess what, I have done more with my life then I ever thought possiable. I have fought for a ship that is an American Icon. I have worked my way up from a failing student in High school to a College student that is rather succesful. I am not trash.

Reverend, you can kiss both cheeks of my ass

lol...btw..you are not Star Fox from Asheron's Call?

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by StarFox

he was born trash?

You cannot be born trash, you have to earn it though your actions. My father was black and my mother is white, does that make me trash too? From the way he mentions it, yes I guess I am trash.

Guess what, I have done more with my life then I ever thought possiable. I have fought for a ship that is an American Icon. I have worked my way up from a failing student in High school to a College student that is rather succesful. I am not trash.

Reverend, you can kiss both cheeks of my ass

That's why I think there's still hope for America's youth--all of America's youth. Way to go, mate!

[Von Tonner]

Originally Posted by Platapus

I thought that Senator Obama's speech on Monday (I think) was good. Straight forward and he addressed the concerns.

People who attend church are not mindless zombies. Just because a soon to retire pastor vents does not mean that everyone in the church is going to buy it.

Just because Senator Obama said that this pastor was his spiritual mentor does not mean that he blindly accepts everything he said. I have have had many mentors in both my professional and academic lives. I have not had one that I did not strongly disagree with on some matter. Does that mean they can't be my mentor?

No, it does mean that I learned from them. I always learned from my mentors. Sometimes I learned what to do and other times I learned what not to do.

It is quite probable that Senator Obama listened to this crap and disagreed. If I were to sever contact with everyone I ever disagreed with I would be a lonely man indeed.

To me this is a non-issue being fanned by the Senator Clinton team.

There are other more important things you can either like or dislike Senator Obama about then what some jerk in his church said before retiring.

Spot on Platapus How many millions of people attend church every Sunday and hear their minister/preacher/priest etc denounce Darwinism? Does that mean that you "by association" support them in that view? Hardly. And here we are talking about a fundemental difference to the very principal of Christianity. One promoting 'chance', the other 'purpose'.

As Obama has himself said, he sought out some people to help him in his fledging political career - that is the nature of politics, possibly more so in Chicago, and particularly within the black community. It is not allways "what you know" but "who you know" that gets some doors opened. I also believe this view of his is articulated in his belief that if he is elected president of the USA he will open up dialogue with America's enemies as opposed to pointedly ignoring them.

Personally, I think the only question that has to be vigoursly asked of him is whether he agreed with those views of his minister. He has gone on record as saying he does not. Now, unless someone comes forward with reputable evidence to challenge him on this, then it is time to move on.

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by Von Tonner

How many millions of people attend church every Sunday and hear their minister/preacher/priest etc denounce Darwinism? Does that mean that you "by association" support them in that view?

I'd say there is a little difference between your example and his action(or inaction). How can someone lead spiritually when they are bigots? OB by virtue of him staying there and being silent agrees with him. Kind of like the slip by his wife in saying that her husband running for president is the first time she was proud of this country. A normal couple I would shrug and say "Thats there opinion". They aren't normal. He's running for the top post of this country. It matters. That cut him out of the loop as far as I'm concerned.

In fact lets turn it a little. If Hillary was a member of a church where her minister was against blacks what do you think would happen? All hell would have been raised, she would have lost every supporter, she would drop out of the race and she would be finished politically. Double standard as far as I'm concerned.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by StarFox

he was born trash?

You cannot be born trash, you have to earn it though your actions. My father was black and my mother is white, does that make me trash too? From the way he mentions it, yes I guess I am trash.

Guess what, I have done more with my life then I ever thought possiable. I have fought for a ship that is an American Icon. I have worked my way up from a failing student in High school to a College student that is rather succesful. I am not trash.

Reverend, you can kiss both cheeks of my ass

Very well put

[Von Tonner]

Originally Posted by bradclark1

In fact lets turn it a little. If Hillary was a member of a church where her minister was against blacks what do you think would happen? All hell would have been raised, she would have lost every supporter, she would drop out of the race and she would be finished politically. Double standard as far as I'm concerned.

I think you want to google Billy Graham and see what he has to say about Jews and Catholics, or better still, have a look at what old Bill had to say about the reverend Wright after he invited and embraced him into the White House. Hell, he even wrote a letter to him a few days later saying he was uplifted by his semon. I am cerainly not arguing or trying to find excuses for Wright, all I am saying is, put this into perspective. Sound bites don't help.