Some interesting things from SH4...

Rubini · 03-20-08, 02:41 AM

Hi guys,

I was looking at Sh4 this afternoon and then I had a wish to port the draining water to Sh3. The below are the first results. It works very well with any waves state (only appears when are out of the waves) and also when submerge /emerge - by the way, in this situations is very, very good indeed. I don´t had time yet to play with the settings to perhaps adjust their spawn point on the sub, high, intensity, color, frequency, etc. With S3D, now all is possible - LOL.

My first questions is if these draining water are realistic for uboats and if you guys will like it or not. If we really like and want it i will then go ahead and finish the mod. I will go in a trip for the holiday so only the next week i will return to work on it.

Regards,

Rubini.

Barbac · 03-20-08, 03:23 AM

Good day Rubini,

As I am not a Sub specialist, I cannot tell you whether this draining water looks accurate but I DO like the idea very much and the effect added to the already top realism.
Everytime top modders like you have an idea, SH3 gets another fantastic look !
Another way to say that, to me, it is worth working on that

Barbac

Philipp_Thomsen · 03-20-08, 04:32 AM

I keep waiting and waiting to gwx 2.1 to come out for me to reinstall my sh3, but with all these amazing mods poping out its impossible.

Yes, mate, please finish this mod, its fantastic! And yes, the drainins are almost acurate, only the water spills are a little incorrect, its more like water leaking, and not like water ejecting under pressure from it.

Em portugues pra ficar mais claro, a agua parece estar saindo com pressão, ela está espumando pra fora, tem como vc mudar um pouco a cor dela, colocar mais cor de agua, pq a agua que escorre dali, escorre sem pressão nenhuma, e nas fotos parece q ela está sendo esquichada pra fora. Fora isso, ta perfeito. Se isso for hardcoded, esquece, deixa assim mesmo. Mas ótimo trabalho cara, mto boa sua ideia!

kys2000 · 03-20-08, 06:51 AM

great works!
give your result,I will also works on it !

Rubini · 03-20-08, 07:34 AM

OK! Thanks!

I really need to know from where the water drain from a uboat. Someone havy some Rela Life WWII era pics to share with this effect?

Before stop the work and go to sleep I found all the controllers for the position (any place on the uboat), color, intensity, frequency, etc (well don't differ much from any particle/materials controls), so I guess that will be possible to adjust it to ahve even a better effect than in stock SH4.

@ Phillip_Thomsen: yes , the most worst visual effect is really the water seeming to spills over pressure sometimes. This is a bad effect ported directly from stock SH4. I will play with the settings to see if I found something more discrete and with more natural look. This is as I like it too and will follow this idea as first objective to acquire with the mod: a more natural look possible. Abraços, amigo!

bert8for3 · 03-20-08, 08:09 AM

@Rubini. Hi Rubini. IIRC from some other posts a while ago, you're using a big widescreen monitor these days, and I notice from your screenshots looking at your dials that you don't seem to have stretch. Since I have some stretch, altho not a big deal, out of curiosity are you running the game windowed or with black bars on both sides or have you found some solution to stretch?

Tks. Don't mean to take thread OT btw but am curious.

kakemann · 03-20-08, 08:10 AM

Is it reall possible? Woow!

bert8for3 · 03-20-08, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rubini

OK! Thanks!
...
I really need to know from where the water drain from a uboat. Someone havy some Rela Life WWII era pics to share with this effect?
...

A couple of pics here ... http://www.uboataces.com/history-gallery3.shtml and esp first photo on page 4 of the gallery. Haven't looked at all the pages. But your own effects look great anyway.

CB.. · 03-20-08, 08:34 AM

either way realistic or not...(there has to be a way to utilise the addition appropiately)...it's very very nicely done!

Rubini · 03-20-08, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bert8for3

@Rubini. Hi Rubini. IIRC from some other posts a while ago, you're using a big widescreen monitor these days, and I notice from your screenshots looking at your dials that you don't seem to have stretch. Since I have some stretch, altho not a big deal, out of curiosity are you running the game windowed or with black bars on both sides or have you found some solution to stretch?

Tks. Don't mean to take thread OT btw but am curious.

Hi bert,

Yes, I have a big 26"LCD wide but SH3 I play in normal 4:3. I tried some time ago to adjust the FOVs do meet widescreen but without success, than I go back to normal 4:3.

Rubini · 03-20-08, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kakemann

Is it reall possible? Woow!

Yes!

bert8for3 · 03-20-08, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rubini

Yes, I have a big 26"LCD wide but SH3 I play in normal 4:3. I tried some time ago to adjust the FOVs do meet widescreen but without success, than I go back to normal 4:3.

... I can imagine that with that size of screen going back to 4:3 aspect still gives you a huge game display. Tks, and signing off on this subject so as not to take thread OT.

Rubini · 03-20-08, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bert8for3

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rubini

OK! Thanks!
...
I really need to know from where the water drain from a uboat. Someone havy some Rela Life WWII era pics to share with this effect?
...

A couple of pics here ... http://www.uboataces.com/history-gallery3.shtml and esp first photo on page 4 of the gallery. Haven't looked at all the pages. But your own effects look great anyway.

yes, this one.

Seems that the water "leak" from the lateral vents from all the uboat body. (Interesting is also how, in the RL pics, the uboats are much more "into the water" than we have on Sh3/GWX. This is another thing that annoys me.)

I will try to adjust all the water stream to start from the lateral vents...anyway in the end the final effect will be more or less how we have it now on Sh4, with some tweaks here and there.

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr · 03-20-08, 09:05 AM

looking verry good, cant wait to try it

and i say again, SH3 is getting closer to the real thing

Philipp_Thomsen · 03-20-08, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rubini

(Interesting is also how, in the RL pics, the uboats are much more "into the water" than we have on Sh3/GWX. This is another thing that annoys me.)

I also think thats true. Why dont you do a fix for that together with the waterspill mod? Its pretty easy to fix that, in the uboat.sim files, draught surfaced. Although I was some time ago playing around with that and noticed that the more increase in draught, the more speed you lose. And if you lift whe uboat out of water, lets say, only 1,5 meters into water, you gain a lot of speed. So by doing that you might mess around with a lot of other unwanted stuff.

03-20-08, 02:41 AM	#1
Rubini Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: São Paulo Brazil Posts: 2,728 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	[WIP] Some interesting things from SH4... Hi guys, I was looking at Sh4 this afternoon and then I had a wish to port the draining water to Sh3. The below are the first results. It works very well with any waves state (only appears when are out of the waves) and also when submerge /emerge - by the way, in this situations is very, very good indeed. I don´t had time yet to play with the settings to perhaps adjust their spawn point on the sub, high, intensity, color, frequency, etc. With S3D, now all is possible - LOL. My first questions is if these draining water are realistic for uboats and if you guys will like it or not. If we really like and want it i will then go ahead and finish the mod. I will go in a trip for the holiday so only the next week i will return to work on it. Regards, Rubini. __________________ One gamer's must-have mod is another gamer's waste of time. -Sailor Steve Last edited by Rubini; 03-20-08 at 07:36 AM.

03-20-08, 04:32 AM	#3
Philipp_Thomsen Old Gang Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Drunk at the whorehouse Posts: 2,278 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	I keep waiting and waiting to gwx 2.1 to come out for me to reinstall my sh3, but with all these amazing mods poping out its impossible. Yes, mate, please finish this mod, its fantastic! And yes, the drainins are almost acurate, only the water spills are a little incorrect, its more like water leaking, and not like water ejecting under pressure from it. Em portugues pra ficar mais claro, a agua parece estar saindo com pressão, ela está espumando pra fora, tem como vc mudar um pouco a cor dela, colocar mais cor de agua, pq a agua que escorre dali, escorre sem pressão nenhuma, e nas fotos parece q ela está sendo esquichada pra fora. Fora isso, ta perfeito. Se isso for hardcoded, esquece, deixa assim mesmo. Mas ótimo trabalho cara, mto boa sua ideia! __________________ To each his own

03-20-08, 07:34 AM	#5
Rubini Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: São Paulo Brazil Posts: 2,728 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	OK! Thanks! I really need to know from where the water drain from a uboat. Someone havy some Rela Life WWII era pics to share with this effect? Before stop the work and go to sleep I found all the controllers for the position (any place on the uboat), color, intensity, frequency, etc (well don't differ much from any particle/materials controls), so I guess that will be possible to adjust it to ahve even a better effect than in stock SH4. @ Phillip_Thomsen: yes , the most worst visual effect is really the water seeming to spills over pressure sometimes. This is a bad effect ported directly from stock SH4. I will play with the settings to see if I found something more discrete and with more natural look. This is as I like it too and will follow this idea as first objective to acquire with the mod: a more natural look possible. Abraços, amigo! __________________ One gamer's must-have mod is another gamer's waste of time. -Sailor Steve

03-20-08, 08:10 AM	#7
kakemann Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Pretty close to the big german cruiser Blücher in Norway Posts: 568 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Is it reall possible? Woow! __________________ My SH4 releases compatible with SH4 1.5 and earlier: Kakemann and ATR-42's Silent Hunter 4 Music FIX Kakemann and Lurker_hlb3 Destroyer sensors and radar FIX Tutorial: How to add new music tracks to SH4

03-20-08, 08:34 AM	#9
CB.. Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: UK Posts: 1,278 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	either way realistic or not...(there has to be a way to utilise the addition appropiately)...it's very very nicely done! __________________ the world's tinyiest sh3 supermod- and other SH3/SH2 stuff http://www.ebort2.co.uk/ The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. W.B.Yeats

03-20-08, 03:23 AM	#2
Barbac Helmsman Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 101 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Good day Rubini, As I am not a Sub specialist, I cannot tell you whether this draining water looks accurate but I DO like the idea very much and the effect added to the already top realism. Everytime top modders like you have an idea, SH3 gets another fantastic look ! Another way to say that, to me, it is worth working on that Barbac

03-20-08, 06:51 AM	#4
kys2000 Loader Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 84 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	great works! give your result,I will also works on it !

03-20-08, 08:09 AM	#6
bert8for3 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,124 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	@Rubini. Hi Rubini. IIRC from some other posts a while ago, you're using a big widescreen monitor these days, and I notice from your screenshots looking at your dials that you don't seem to have stretch. Since I have some stretch, altho not a big deal, out of curiosity are you running the game windowed or with black bars on both sides or have you found some solution to stretch? Tks. Don't mean to take thread OT btw but am curious.

03-20-08, 09:05 AM	#14
Kaleu. Jochen Mohr Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: in my sub Posts: 2,741 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	looking verry good, cant wait to try it and i say again, SH3 is getting closer to the real thing __________________ Gruß