US Troops on Canadian soil? Or vice versa?

SUBMAN1 · 03-14-08, 11:13 AM

If I saw foriegn troops activily patrolling and armed outside my house, I would personally open fire. Something is wrong here.... http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/n...a-f82134b92e7e

-S

bradclark1 · 03-14-08, 11:21 AM

What would be the problem? If there is an agreement there is an agreement. All this does is pave the way if there is a need for us as well as them. I don't think you will see them cross just to go to a Kentucky Fried Chicken or McDonald's and they aren't Russians or Venezuelan. I really don't see an issue here. To me it's just common sense and a good idea.

Tchocky · 03-14-08, 11:23 AM

In case of a civil emergency.

Natural disaster, maybe?

Yar, shoot 'em.

Wolfehunter · 03-14-08, 11:55 AM

I see a bad idea here. I see erosion of people civil rights in each country. Because bigger military powers have bigger muscle to flex in smaller foreign lands and annex certain laws that would normally protect locals.

I know governments abuse powers and when they pass laws in secret well no citizen will benefit from it. Only select elitist interest groups will gain from lucrative close door dealings.

Anyhow thats my 10cents to this post.

mrbeast · 03-14-08, 01:38 PM

I think the significance of this could well be overstated.

Quite a few countries have US and UK forces stationed in them. Take Germany as an example. Largely the US has never needed measures like this and I'm sure Canadian or US troops would only ever cross the border in extremis. Most likely as someone posted in the case of a natural disaster or the like.

Platapus · 03-14-08, 11:27 AM

What I don't understand is that if this agreement is all friendly and for the mutual benefit of all citizens, why was it not announced?

Did this even come up for debate in any of the congresses/parliaments?
And most importantly, who will profit monetarily from this agreement?

Dowly · 03-14-08, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

If I saw foriegn troops activily patrolling and armed outside my house, I would personally open fire. Something is wrong here.... http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/n...a-f82134b92e7e

-S

Rrrright.

August · 03-14-08, 02:12 PM

I'd be proud that the Canadians thought enough of us to help defend our nation and i'd be quite willing to help Canada defend their country from attack.

That's what good neighbors do.

Dowly · 03-14-08, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by August

I'd be proud that the Canadians thought enough of us to help defend our nation and i'd be quite willing to help Canada defend their country from attack.

That's what good neighbors do.

Wow, it's been a good day for good posts today. This' just how it should be.

SUBMAN1 · 03-14-08, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by August

I'd be proud that the Canadians thought enough of us to help defend our nation and i'd be quite willing to help Canada defend their country from attack.

That's what good neighbors do.

It isn't helping us defend our nation that is at stake. It is for Civil Unrest.

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which allows the military from one nation to support the armed forces of the other nation in a civil emergency.

THis is the government securing its back if the people don't go along with what they say. That is the problem.

-S

Jimbuna · 03-14-08, 02:32 PM

I should imagine if either of the countries were in need of urgent military assistance, whether because of a disater or invasion, there would be almost automatic assistance given.

SUBMAN1 · 03-14-08, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

I should imagine if either of the countries were in need of urgent military assistance, whether because of a disater or invasion, there would be almost automatic assistance given.

Thats the point - it is not about disaster or invasion relief. Its like our governments are expecting civil unrest from its citizens.

Hakahura · 03-14-08, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

If I saw foriegn troops activily patrolling and armed outside my house, I would personally open fire. Something is wrong here.... http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/n...a-f82134b92e7e

-S

Perhaps you should bear that in mind next time a US servicman gets killed overseas.
Get a fecking grip, you are not being invaded.

There are armed US Troops here in the UK. Should I open fire?:rotfl:

Not sure whether laughter or pity is the order of the day here.

But I somewhat doubt Canada's bothered.

Tchocky · 03-14-08, 05:10 PM

Over a million US troops have passed through Ireland over the last 5 years. Hmmm.

SUBMAN1 · 03-14-08, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

Over a million US troops have passed through Ireland over the last 5 years. Hmmm.

Simple they are passing through. THey aren't there to suppress or kill UK civilians.

-S

03-14-08, 11:13 AM	#1
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	US Troops on Canadian soil? Or vice versa? If I saw foriegn troops activily patrolling and armed outside my house, I would personally open fire. Something is wrong here.... http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/n...a-f82134b92e7e -S __________________

03-14-08, 11:21 AM	#2
bradclark1 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Connecticut, USA. Posts: 2,794 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	What would be the problem? If there is an agreement there is an agreement. All this does is pave the way if there is a need for us as well as them. I don't think you will see them cross just to go to a Kentucky Fried Chicken or McDonald's and they aren't Russians or Venezuelan. I really don't see an issue here. To me it's just common sense and a good idea. __________________

03-14-08, 11:23 AM	#3
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	In case of a civil emergency. Natural disaster, maybe? Yar, shoot 'em. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

03-14-08, 11:55 AM	#4
Wolfehunter Crusty Capt. Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,752 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 25	I see a bad idea here. I see erosion of people civil rights in each country. Because bigger military powers have bigger muscle to flex in smaller foreign lands and annex certain laws that would normally protect locals. I know governments abuse powers and when they pass laws in secret well no citizen will benefit from it. Only select elitist interest groups will gain from lucrative close door dealings. Anyhow thats my 10cents to this post. __________________

03-14-08, 01:38 PM	#5
mrbeast Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bolton, UK Posts: 1,236 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think the significance of this could well be overstated. Quite a few countries have US and UK forces stationed in them. Take Germany as an example. Largely the US has never needed measures like this and I'm sure Canadian or US troops would only ever cross the border in extremis. Most likely as someone posted in the case of a natural disaster or the like. __________________

03-14-08, 11:27 AM	#6
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	What I don't understand is that if this agreement is all friendly and for the mutual benefit of all citizens, why was it not announced? Did this even come up for debate in any of the congresses/parliaments? And most importantly, who will profit monetarily from this agreement? __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'd be proud that the Canadians thought enough of us to help defend our nation and i'd be quite willing to help Canada defend their country from attack. That's what good neighbors do. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I should imagine if either of the countries were in need of urgent military assistance, whether because of a disater or invasion, there would be almost automatic assistance given. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

03-14-08, 05:10 PM	#14
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Over a million US troops have passed through Ireland over the last 5 years. Hmmm. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]