Spain, Portugal and Others-no naval forces?

[HundertzehnGustav]

From Venezuela Peru to Egypt....

wich DDs did they actually use?
Some Nations only have the armed Merchant (the tugboat type), The French Fries can be happy to have their Bourrasque DDs, but eh, what about Spain?
What about the French Big Boys? Netherlands? they had a Coastal defense ship didnt they? no DDs for the Netherlanders?
if we gave them a Hunt I, would that be unfair?
I cannot believe that the Fins aint got no proper Warships either... with so much coast? what about "Niobe"? was that not one of theirs?

The goal is to give each nation at least some sort of Naval Forces in the rooster, an A/B Class DD is better than no DD at all!

Hell even the Poles got some better Ships (V/W DDs in `39) than the Netherlands Navy!

what do you say?

[Abd_von_Mumit]

Originally Posted by HundertzehnGustav

Hell even the Poles got some better Ships (V/W DDs in `39) than the Netherlands Navy!

Doh!

[HundertzehnGustav]

http://images.google.de/imgres?imgur...%3Dfr%26sa%3DN

nothing against them Poles, i had a Polish Grandma myself...

but eh, why do these other Nations not speak up?

Hell if Luxembourg Had Had (HAD had) a Navy back then, i would want each one of our DDs Gunboats and Minelayers in the Game.
and Aircraft Carriers and BBs too.



SOOOOOOOOOOO
the NL had some proper ass DDs, from 1925 onwards.
maybe we can base them on the VW or C Class Hulls and reequip them with older guns and weaker AAA?

something for the moding forum.

[Mush Martin]

Originally Posted by HundertzehnGustav

From Venezuela Peru to Egypt....

wich DDs did they actually use?
Some Nations only have the armed Merchant (the tugboat type), The French Fries can be happy to have their Bourrasque DDs, but eh, what about Spain?
What about the French Big Boys? Netherlands? they had a Coastal defense ship didnt they? no DDs for the Netherlanders?
if we gave them a Hunt I, would that be unfair?
I cannot believe that the Fins aint got no proper Warships either... with so much coast? what about "Niobe"? was that not one of theirs?

The goal is to give each nation at least some sort of Naval Forces in the rooster, an A/B Class DD is better than no DD at all!

Hell even the Poles got some better Ships (V/W DDs in `39) than the Netherlands Navy!

what do you say?

I have a fairly complete list actually for just about every nation.
If you can find it locally
Richard Worths "Fleets of World War II" Da Capo press
is worth it and cheap these days. but getting harder to find.

M

[Fusek]

http://www.netherlandsnavy.nl/

Seems like the Dutch had at least Town and N class DD's, as well as several ships of their own design. Not to forget the O class subs, which resemble the British S class found in the game (gwx2)

[sturmer]

it would be a good idea to add ships to the netherlands and stuff.
but isnt that more a question for the mod department?

sturmer

[ridgewayranger]

Hi Everyone,
I seem to detect some sneering at European navies of WW2. Basically, if a country had a coastline it had a navy and some good ships. The Dutch had a respectable force but unfortunately got decimated in the Pacific under Admiral Karel Doorman, mainly due to the lack of a common language in the T.F.
A look at WWW.netherlandsnavy.nl will show what I mean. The Poles also had a useful navy, including submarines. The Spanish were 'neutral'????? so didn't come into the equation.
R.R.

[bigboywooly]

Netherland
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Sea
C3Cargo.cfg
CHT.cfg
COFlower.cfg < NL CO Frisio
COT.cfg
DDNClass.cfg < NL Van Galen\NL Tjerk Hiddes
DDTown.cfg < HNMS Campbeltown
FFRiverClass.cfg < HNMS Johan Maurits van Nassau
FishBoatL.cfg
FishingBoat.cfg
FishingBoat1.cfg
FishingBoat2.cfg
GRA.cfg
HarbourTugBoat.cfg
KBL.cfg
KCA.cfg
KGN.cfg
KLS.cfg
KSQ.cfg
KSS.cfg
LGH.cfg
LLS.cfg
LSQ.cfg
LSS.cfg
LTgBoat.cfg
LTMS.cfg
LTSF.cfg
M35B.cfg
NECT.cfg
NF_boat_4.cfg
NOTCW.cfg
NRC.cfg
NSCT.cfg
NWP.cfg
OTMS.cfg
OTMST2.cfg
OTSF.cfg
PBTrawler.cfg
PTR.cfg
SD.cfg < Columbia
SJT.cfg
TugBoat.cfg
Submarine
Sclass.cfg < HNMS Zeehond
Tclass.cfg < HNMS Zwaardvisch

[Einzelganger]

In GWX 1.03 i've seen a Dutch DD docked once in Loch Ewe. Unfortunately at that time The Netherlands were still neutral though, so a no go....

I suppose they'll be there in GWX2 aswell but the fact that they are rare compared to some other countries seems historically pretty realistic to me.

[deepboat]

Dutch Navy in action?

[deepboat]

Looks like the guy on top of the bridge is still doing his job!

[Rhodes]

Who are you calling a no-naval force???? hummm?

We had the famous cod fishing sailling ship fleet called the "White Fleet", after the white sails of the ships. Sailling ships of 3 and 4 masts that sailled all together in a convoy, only with the power of the wind, travelling to the Newfoundland cod banks.

http://www.ancruzeiros.pt/ancv-gazela-e.html

http://www.whitepinepictures.com/see...2/sidebar.html

http://www.ancruzeiros.pt/ancv-creoula.html

And if I know anything about creating ships to SH3 I would this fleet and added to the game to one see a neutral convoy of sailling ships leaving Portugal to Newfoundland.


:p :p :p :p


Eheheheheh

[HundertzehnGustav]

okokok the dutch are good.
i mean... they were among the top five sailing nations of all times, along with the french, uk, spain and others.

what about peru?
Mejico?
Spain?
Portugal?
Spain i found nothing on-or mebe looked in a bad direction? any Spaniards in here?
Egypt?
*insert your favourite country here*?

[HundertzehnGustav]

Yea, Rhodes, Germany had training shipy like that too, the Gorch Fock and others... actually built during the 1930 period.

What about portuguese Destroyers? Naval Warfare ships between 1939 and 1945?
Hell they have F16s today, so they must have dad a PROPER navy back then?

[bigboywooly]

Yes Spain etc all had warships BUT we dont have them ingame as there arent any models available