The external camera is...

Ducimus · 01-11-08, 10:52 PM

Friday night fun thread.

(choose what you feel is the most correct answer to you)

Littlealx · 01-12-08, 02:46 AM

I voted life's blood.

I love watching the wake's of the fish heading for the target! it's ten times better when you take a look and it looks like your calculations are about to pay off

CCIP · 01-12-08, 02:56 AM

occasional. I rarely watch the action nowadays actually, I prefer to concentrate on the attack and not spoil the immersion in the role of the captain. I use it a lot when nothing is happening but I just want to watch my boat cruise through the waves, though. I also use it sometimes to watch sinking ships when an attack is over and finished. Otherwise... not so much.

Ducimus · 01-12-08, 06:49 AM

You girlymen! :rotfl:

stabiz · 01-12-08, 07:08 AM

Life`s blood!

Q3ark · 01-12-08, 07:29 AM

I voted for movie ticket,love watching the action as it happens. Maybe if there where more going on inside the sub i wouldn't use it as much, but right now the crew dosen't seem very real. Besides how can i enjoy Leo's ROW from inside the sub?

Ducimus · 01-12-08, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stabiz

Life`s blood!

For Stabiz, no doubt about that!

Q3ark · 01-12-08, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

You girlymen! :rotfl:

Well thay do call me Davina at the weekend:rotfl:

Rockin Robbins · 01-12-08, 08:46 AM

I've been watching sinkings through the periscope lately. Really what I've been doing is looking at Dave's ocean and sky and taking screenies of my own boat, although I can do that with the free deck cam too.

@littlealx: that's what the attack map is for. Here! Wear this dunce cap for the next 15 minutes.:rotfl

uci, have a pink girlyman dunce cap?

Right now I'm playing with Rubini's nHancer settings for my graphics card trying to tease out the last 10% of rendering excellence from my graphics card. I added some fps too, going from 25 to 38 in bridge and external camera view.

But mostly the external view is how you tell the story of an attack sequence. Unless you just depend on the attack and nav maps, how else are you going to do it? A shadow puppet show?

Call me a journalist.

In the bottom screenie you can pick out the constellation Sagittarius right at the nose of Kraken and just to the right, the hook of Scorpius, the brightest and first-recognized constellation for those living in the southern hemisphere. Were this a real sky you would be able to pick out the bright Milky way rising out of the spout of Saggitarius. almost obscuring the stars in front of it and making the stars of Sagittarius very difficult to pick out.

Taken from the Florida Keys just after sunset. You can see some sky glow on the bottom of the picture, but Sagittarius is in the lower middle of the shot. Just TRY to pick it out. This is not much brighter than it would appear to the naked eye at sea with no artificial lights to destroy your amazement. Ok, call me an astronomer. Or call me crazy!

ICApproval · 01-14-08, 11:05 AM

I would vote that it should be an option in TM. If the player wants true reality then he can choose not to use it. I have been running TM for about 3 weeks now and it has really added to the full imersion of the game. I would probably not turn it on too often unless I wanted a little change of gameplay after so many hours at "real life".

Wilcke · 01-14-08, 04:25 PM

....girly man here....

Rockin Robbins · 01-14-08, 09:29 PM

I am on a cruise you could never dream of it has been so incredible. First, I encountered a convoy of 2 tankers, a medium split freighter and another merchie accompanied by 5 escorts. Approaching from the north with intent to engage escorts with a sternful of cuties, I was detected long range, driven under and swarmed. Whilst twisting and evading, I came up to 99 ft and swam out a couple of cuties to see what happened. What happened was I wasted 2 cuties and was driven off. Not a good beginning.

This evolved into an all-night battle with 4 separate approaches during which I sank the two tankers, the medium split and two escorts with cuties. My first approach was before sunset and my last shot, sinking a DD was at 10:30 am, the whole battle fought in real time over three days of my time! Leaving the scene of the crime I couldn't dream it would get better!

Proceeding to the Formosa Straits, I found RSRD just swarming me with convoys. I had to avoid targets to get to the ones I wanted! With no cuties and only 4 torps left, 2 Mark 18's and 2 Mark 23's I started off sinking a tanker, which attracted three escorts! Now I had 2 Mark 18's and 1 Mark 23. I resolved to make trouble for the escorts, since I had 30k tons of merchies under my belt. The following testimony of the external camera will justify the above bullschnitzel:

Two of the suckers after me, an Akizuki and a friendly Shiratsuyu.
First, I disabled one with a down the throat shot: not my normal tactic vs Akizukis. Then I had a choice with 1 torp left. Finish off Akizuki or shoot Shiratsuyu. Shiratsuyu attacked with great vigor, leaving me no choice. I got lucky and he went down.

So now the Akizuki is hanging out with no power and I'm hanging out with no torpedoes. Mexican standoff? Let's find out. I came up to 30' directly astern so I could dive quickly if he fired. Nothing. What now? What do you mean, what now?

The crippled DD began firing starshells! They're the first I've seen in the game! The sound of a gun firing momentarily freaked me out. And then the whole world lit up! I guess they know I'm here....

Surface! Battle stations surface! Man the deck gun! We pounded the Akizuki for 20 minutes listening to the screams of dying men as HE tore up the weaponry, searchlights and deck. I took the external camera aboard my victim to record the carnage.

Finally he went down by the bow, finalizing my cruise at a record for me of 5 escorts of DE or above. Out of torpedoes and out of ammunition for the guns I prepared to return to base.

But what did TM and RSRD serve up for me? The most beautiful sight possible in the game, one everyone thought was impossible until Leovampire pulled the ultimate buffalo out of the hat. This one's for Dave:

There were five beautiful plumes of smoke on the horizon from yet another approaching convoy. I set course to avoid. Enough for one cruise.

Lastly, my finest screenshot to date, as a DD takes one on the chin and charges to his death. This one has drama.

Finally I got all the elements together to make a perfect shot: the water, the fire, the motion of the dying DD, the stars, the smoke, the clouds. One shot justifies the external camera. This one has jigsaw puzzle written all over it!

It's movie time!

The Fishlord · 01-17-08, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Two of the suckers after me, an Akizuki and a friendly Shiratsuyu.
First, I disabled one with a down the throat shot: not my normal tactic vs Akizukis. Then I had a choice with 1 torp left. Finish off Akizuki or shoot Shiratsuyu. Shiratsuyu attacked with great vigor, leaving me no choice. I got lucky and he went down.

So now the Akizuki is hanging out with no power and I'm hanging out with no torpedoes. Mexican standoff? Let's find out. I came up to 30' directly astern so I could dive quickly if he fired. Nothing. What now? What do you mean, what now

I've never seen an oil slick come out of a ship like that! I get the feeling a lot is going wrong with the graphics in this game though, not much of a surprise.

BTW, you said "Take the external camera aboard the DD". How did you do that, since the unit selector doesn't go very close and the normal freemove camera won't go close either?

DrBeast · 01-18-08, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Fishlord

I've never seen an oil slick come out of a ship like that! I get the feeling a lot is going wrong with the graphics in this game though, not much of a surprise.

BTW, you said "Take the external camera aboard the DD". How did you do that, since the unit selector doesn't go very close and the normal freemove camera won't go close either?

Ah, that's because you don't have ROW, I guess. Get to this here thread, download the mod, and enter a whole new SH4 experience

bookworm_020 · 01-15-08, 12:29 AM

Movie Ticket, I just love to what the torpedo's go home and sink that ship I've been hunting for 2 hours!

View Poll Results: The external Camera is..
My lifes blood! How can i enjoy SH4 without seeing the eye candy?!	57	27.54%
My movie ticket! I love watching the depth charges drop and seeing all the action as it happens!	75	36.23%
Just something i use occasionaly. I ike watching ships sink.	48	23.19%
For the girlyman! Real sub skippers had no such view!	20	9.66%
External what? I live in the 2D world that is the nav map	7	3.38%
Voters: 207. You may not vote on this poll

01-11-08, 10:52 PM	#1
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	The external camera is... Friday night fun thread. (choose what you feel is the most correct answer to you)

01-12-08, 02:46 AM	#2
Littlealx Watch Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 17 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I voted life's blood. I love watching the wake's of the fish heading for the target! it's ten times better when you take a look and it looks like your calculations are about to pay off __________________ \"Dive.... DIVE!!!\"

01-12-08, 02:56 AM	#3
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	occasional. I rarely watch the action nowadays actually, I prefer to concentrate on the attack and not spoil the immersion in the role of the captain. I use it a lot when nothing is happening but I just want to watch my boat cruise through the waves, though. I also use it sometimes to watch sinking ships when an attack is over and finished. Otherwise... not so much. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

01-12-08, 07:08 AM	#5
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Life`s blood! __________________

01-12-08, 06:49 AM	#4
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	You girlymen! :rotfl:

01-12-08, 07:29 AM	#6
Q3ark Watch Officer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: York, England Posts: 346 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	I voted for movie ticket,love watching the action as it happens. Maybe if there where more going on inside the sub i wouldn't use it as much, but right now the crew dosen't seem very real. Besides how can i enjoy Leo's ROW from inside the sub? __________________ Johnny was a chemist's son, But Johnny is no more. What Johnny thought was H20 was H2SO4.

01-12-08, 08:46 AM	#9
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Well I voted for number 3 but... I've been watching sinkings through the periscope lately. Really what I've been doing is looking at Dave's ocean and sky and taking screenies of my own boat, although I can do that with the free deck cam too. @littlealx: that's what the attack map is for. Here! Wear this dunce cap for the next 15 minutes.:rotfluci, have a pink girlyman dunce cap? Right now I'm playing with Rubini's nHancer settings for my graphics card trying to tease out the last 10% of rendering excellence from my graphics card. I added some fps too, going from 25 to 38 in bridge and external camera view. But mostly the external view is how you tell the story of an attack sequence. Unless you just depend on the attack and nav maps, how else are you going to do it? A shadow puppet show? Call me a journalist. In the bottom screenie you can pick out the constellation Sagittarius right at the nose of Kraken and just to the right, the hook of Scorpius, the brightest and first-recognized constellation for those living in the southern hemisphere. Were this a real sky you would be able to pick out the bright Milky way rising out of the spout of Saggitarius. almost obscuring the stars in front of it and making the stars of Sagittarius very difficult to pick out. Taken from the Florida Keys just after sunset. You can see some sky glow on the bottom of the picture, but Sagittarius is in the lower middle of the shot. Just TRY to pick it out. This is not much brighter than it would appear to the naked eye at sea with no artificial lights to destroy your amazement. Ok, call me an astronomer. Or call me crazy! __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS Last edited by Rockin Robbins; 01-12-08 at 09:34 AM.

01-14-08, 11:05 AM	#10
ICApproval Seaman Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 41 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I would vote that it should be an option in TM. If the player wants true reality then he can choose not to use it. I have been running TM for about 3 weeks now and it has really added to the full imersion of the game. I would probably not turn it on too often unless I wanted a little change of gameplay after so many hours at "real life".

01-14-08, 04:25 PM	#11
Wilcke The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,441 Downloads: 234 Uploads: 0	....girly man here.... __________________ Wilcke **For the best in Fleet Boats go to: Submarine Sim Central. http://forum.kickinbak.com/index.php Check out: A Brief Introduction to the Pacific Submarine War by Ducimus http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=128185 Operation Monsun plus OMEGU, the #1 ATO Solution for SH4! Signature Art by Gunfighter**

01-14-08, 09:29 PM	#12
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	External camera manifesto! Orgasmic! I am on a cruise you could never dream of it has been so incredible. First, I encountered a convoy of 2 tankers, a medium split freighter and another merchie accompanied by 5 escorts. Approaching from the north with intent to engage escorts with a sternful of cuties, I was detected long range, driven under and swarmed. Whilst twisting and evading, I came up to 99 ft and swam out a couple of cuties to see what happened. What happened was I wasted 2 cuties and was driven off. Not a good beginning. This evolved into an all-night battle with 4 separate approaches during which I sank the two tankers, the medium split and two escorts with cuties. My first approach was before sunset and my last shot, sinking a DD was at 10:30 am, the whole battle fought in real time over three days of my time! Leaving the scene of the crime I couldn't dream it would get better! Proceeding to the Formosa Straits, I found RSRD just swarming me with convoys. I had to avoid targets to get to the ones I wanted! With no cuties and only 4 torps left, 2 Mark 18's and 2 Mark 23's I started off sinking a tanker, which attracted three escorts! Now I had 2 Mark 18's and 1 Mark 23. I resolved to make trouble for the escorts, since I had 30k tons of merchies under my belt. The following testimony of the external camera will justify the above bullschnitzel: Two of the suckers after me, an Akizuki and a friendly Shiratsuyu. First, I disabled one with a down the throat shot: not my normal tactic vs Akizukis. Then I had a choice with 1 torp left. Finish off Akizuki or shoot Shiratsuyu. Shiratsuyu attacked with great vigor, leaving me no choice. I got lucky and he went down. So now the Akizuki is hanging out with no power and I'm hanging out with no torpedoes. Mexican standoff? Let's find out. I came up to 30' directly astern so I could dive quickly if he fired. Nothing. What now? What do you mean, what now? The crippled DD began firing starshells! They're the first I've seen in the game! The sound of a gun firing momentarily freaked me out. And then the whole world lit up! I guess they know I'm here.... Surface! Battle stations surface! Man the deck gun! We pounded the Akizuki for 20 minutes listening to the screams of dying men as HE tore up the weaponry, searchlights and deck. I took the external camera aboard my victim to record the carnage. Finally he went down by the bow, finalizing my cruise at a record for me of 5 escorts of DE or above. Out of torpedoes and out of ammunition for the guns I prepared to return to base. But what did TM and RSRD serve up for me? The most beautiful sight possible in the game, one everyone thought was impossible until Leovampire pulled the ultimate buffalo out of the hat. This one's for Dave: There were five beautiful plumes of smoke on the horizon from yet another approaching convoy. I set course to avoid. Enough for one cruise. Lastly, my finest screenshot to date, as a DD takes one on the chin and charges to his death. This one has drama. Finally I got all the elements together to make a perfect shot: the water, the fire, the motion of the dying DD, the stars, the smoke, the clouds. One shot justifies the external camera. This one has jigsaw puzzle written all over it! It's movie time! __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS Last edited by Rockin Robbins; 01-14-08 at 09:39 PM.

01-15-08, 12:29 AM	#15
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Movie Ticket, I just love to what the torpedo's go home and sink that ship I've been hunting for 2 hours! __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"