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Old 01-25-08, 10:33 AM   #1
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Default The Problem with "some posts here"- Too many Doomsayers around here

I don't beleive that I have ever seen in one place so many Doomsayers. An example, every year since I have been born there has been at least one major book predicting the downfall of the USA in the 70's, in the 80's, in the 90's, and in the 00's. Now I'm seeing the crash of the stock market, or whatever. How many people here know that there are so many checks and balances in the stock market these days that it is IMPOSSIBLE to have another Great Depression or the way it played out? Yes, you could have the decline of the US of A, but it cannot be an overnight thing like it was in the 30's. It will be a long slow gradual decline if it could happen at all.

If a Great Depression were possible, 9/11 would have caused it. Nothing happened. THe market dropped as expected, but then made a massive reversal in the following months and gained it all back and then some.

There is only one real way to knock out America quickly - Nuke war.

Now can we get back to some constructive General Thread topics like BEER???!!! I'm so bored with all the Doomsayer crap.

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PS. There is something to be said for the Doomsayer authors - they are smart because you bought their book and they got rich off it! :p
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Old 01-25-08, 10:36 AM   #2
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Hehe, Doom = Downfall of USA. How centric.

Examples?
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Old 01-25-08, 10:41 AM   #3
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Hehe, Doom = Downfall of USA. How centric.

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Read any financial thread or war thread or anything of that nature. You will find your answer.

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PS. A little hint - read half of the GT forums!
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Old 01-25-08, 10:43 AM   #4
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Companies will always try to sell more and pay less.

Sell more and pay less means that sooner or later people will stop buying
because they have baught all they can and are being paid as little as they
can be.
The crashes, at one scale or another, that have charicturised the last 150+
years of economics is not a trend that we have any reason to belive is over.
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Old 01-25-08, 10:46 AM   #5
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I don't beleive that I have ever seen in one place so many Doomsayers. An example, every year since I have been born there has been at least one major book predicting the downfall of the USA in the 70's, in the 80's, in the 90's, and in the 00's. Now I'm seeing the crash of the stock market, or whatever. How many people here know that there are so many checks and balances in the stock market these days that it is IMPOSSIBLE to have another Great Depression or the way it played out? Yes, you could have the decline of the US of A, but it cannot be an overnight thing like it was in the 30's. It will be a long slow gradual decline if it could happen at all.

If a Great Depression were possible, 9/11 would have caused it. Nothing happened. THe market dropped as expected, but then made a massive reversal in the following months and gained it all back and then some.

There is only one real way to knock out America quickly - Nuke war.

Now can we get back to some constructive General Thread topics like BEER???!!! I'm so bored with all the Doomsayer crap.

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PS. There is something to be said for the Doomsayer authors - they are smart because you bought their book and they got rich off it! :p
Subman, subman, subman, I see you have some screws loose in your aluminium helmet. When Hillary is elected (by coup-de-ta) the US will be desolved and will be absorbed by the EU... and beer will be banned. To solve the immigration problem, Primier Clinton will sell Texas and Cali-for-nia back to Mexico. ...after we adopt the metric system. So, if I were you, I'd just go buy my lil' green suit and smile.

...or go buy lots of ammunition.

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Old 01-25-08, 10:53 AM   #6
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Subman, subman, subman, I see you have some screws loose in your aluminium helmet. When Hillary is elected (by coup-de-ta) the US will be desolved and will be absorbed by the EU... and beer will be banned. To solve the immigration problem, Primier Clinton will sell Texas and Cali-for-nia back to Mexico. ...after we adopt the metric system. So, if I were you, I'd just go buy my lil' green suit and smile.

...or go buy lots of ammunition.

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THE HORROR THE HORROR!!! We better end it all now! I think you are right!

<...sulks away because he can't handle the truth...>

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Old 01-25-08, 10:58 AM   #7
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I'm going to your BEER thread. Mmmm beer.
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Old 01-25-08, 11:13 AM   #9
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Problem is, this is not me saying 'it' is going to happen, so this topic is rrelevant. I give you kudos for your try though!!!

Big difference is the words try vs. the words its going to happen. Next...

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Lets all break wind and get drunk as a skunk. :rotfl:
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Old 01-25-08, 02:28 PM   #11
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Well.. we have 50 billion years or so before "The Big Rip" is supposed to start happening so we had better get SOMETHING done before then !

Also, within about 15 millions years or so.. our sun is going to die out and bake us to a cinder and then the planet will freeze...

There's an asteroid that's going to fly past the earth closer than most of our communication satelites in a couple years (We'll be able to see it with our naked eye). If it's trajectory happens to be JUST RIGHT, Earth's gravity will alter it's course and make it come back and hit us seven years later. This is the same asteroid that freaked astronomers out several years back when they discovered it traveling between the Earth and the Moon.. a VERY near miss.

Yellowstone National Park is going to erupt someday destroying human civilisation in the process.

If a red giant star goes supernova even within 1000 light years from us, if the gamma ray burst from the collapse of the star hits us, it will fry half the planet and then plunge the other half of the planet into a nuclear winter.

*Holds up his sign saying "REPENT !!! THE END IS NEAR !!!"*
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Old 01-25-08, 02:34 PM   #12
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Well.. we have 50 billion years or so before "The Big Rip" is supposed to start happening so we had better get SOMETHING done before then !

Also, within about 15 millions years or so.. our sun is going to die out and bake us to a cinder and then the planet will freeze...

There's an asteroid that's going to fly past the earth closer than most of our communication satelites in a couple years (We'll be able to see it with our naked eye). If it's trajectory happens to be JUST RIGHT, Earth's gravity will alter it's course and make it come back and hit us seven years later. This is the same asteroid that freaked astronomers out several years back when they discovered it traveling between the Earth and the Moon.. a VERY near miss.

Yellowstone National Park is going to erupt someday destroying human civilisation in the process.

If a red giant star goes supernova even within 1000 light years from us, if the gamma ray burst from the collapse of the star hits us, it will fry half the planet and then plunge the other half of the planet into a nuclear winter.

*Holds up his sign saying "REPENT !!! THE END IS NEAR !!!"*
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Old 01-25-08, 02:35 PM   #13
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You're so right Subman and Niki also. Time to become a citizen of another country if Hillary the Hun wins..................
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Old 01-25-08, 03:11 PM   #14
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I am not going to answer this gripe. Mere months will tell. All the yacking and grandstanding is pointless. Like they say to those crying about being sued - TELL IT TO THE JUDGE. The judge is just around the corner - like by 2009 at most. So arguments are pointless...... Reality will judge here in a very short time - then some one will be eating words. Yeah, the Titanic was unsinkable. Yeah, Germans complained before each of Hitler's major moves prior to Poland. In fact doomsayers were even griping about Poland - and then latter they gripped about invading Russia....doom-say, doom-say, doom-say....what were those silly doomsayers thinking? Didn't they know that the Third Reich had a 1000 year warranty? Der unskinable Reich! Der unsinkable Bismarck!

Did I say the 'D' word? No I was talking about men who likely wear Italian leather shoes that cost more than the networth the certain gripers here, who were using the 'D' word. Big bankers and financial honchos quoted last summer. Nearly all the protections designed to protect the USA from the big 'D' made back in the 30s were removed by congress through the late 80s, and 90s. The old protective laws are GONE Baby. Now we depend on the PPT of Bush and derivatives (which were designed to protect the market). But now the problem IS the derivatives.

Personally I expect to see the coming problem begin to affact even the Subsim forum before 2009, because phone companies are reporting that increasing numbers of people are not paying their for their high speed internet connections.....

time will tell, and like all reality - when it bites all the tears and tantrums won't lift the load.

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And yes, the media has accurately predicted the US recessions. They have a 100% record. They have accurately predicted 36 of the last 2 recessions.

Yawn.

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