A genius dead

Skybird · 01-18-08, 06:27 AM

German media just have reported in news-alert-style that according to Icelandic news sources former chess world champion and ingenius chess player Bobby Fisher has died at the age of 64.

One of the greatest minds and most original players in his sports.

3Jane · 01-18-08, 06:37 AM

Sad loss.

Kapitan_Phillips · 01-18-08, 07:55 AM

64 is no age

What was the cause?

Skybird · 01-18-08, 08:13 AM

He died in a hospital in rejkjavik, that's all so far. and 64 is a good age, imo. I hope I will leave while still being not ill, debile, or dependant.

He lived on Icland and was given their citizenship to avoid him being extradited to the US that wanted him to bring to court for having refused to obey the political decision of boykotting Belgrade in the early 90s. He decided to ignore poltiics and instead focussing on sports, played a tournament there back then, and won, earning 3 million prize money. Since then, he was a hunted. Iceland accepted his request for asylum when he was arrested in Japan where he hid for years, trying to leave there with a no longer valid US passport.

In his later, anonymous career he earned a reputation to be playxing on the internet without identifying himself, and stun people by his playing style which seemed to have violated all common sense and reason and violated all the golden rules of chess theory, and did not care for things to do and not to do, nevertheless put all the loose ends and the chaos to successful rearrangement and victory, which left most players and experts clueless how he did it.

It is said and rumoured that he was driven by hoping to find a chess player that could match his abilities, and thus anonymously haunted the chess servers and played against people and watched matches without revealing his identity. It seems he did not find such a talent. Or brother in soul, if that was what he was looking for - who knows.

An excentric, yes, but one who remained loyal to his principles and who was gifted a talent that many players even cannot value. Sometimes these stories remind me of what you have seen in "Rainman", Dustin Hoffman looking at the hundred firematches on the floor and within a split of a second and by just one glance immediately knowing how many there are - exactly. In this way i mean it when saying that Bobby Fisher maybe was not just "normal". His chess certainloy was not - especially after he withdrew from the public scene in the 70s.

It seems to me it was a lonely man on a lonely quest, maybe thinking of himself to be the only one of his kind.

STEED · 01-18-08, 08:30 AM

I only had one beef with the guy, why the hell he did not defend his crown. I don't buy his reasons, never the less he was a good player and a bit odd.

kiwi_2005 · 01-18-08, 10:17 AM

So he got pawned then

CCIP · 01-18-08, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED

I only had one beef with the guy, why the hell he did not defend his crown. I don't buy his reasons, never the less he was a good player and a bit odd.

Honestly, I don't think he cared. I'm pretty sure that his passion for chess was something that he considered above mere competition.

I say that as someone who was born without a competitive bone in my body, myself, of course :p

Always said when one of the truly bright and original minds in the world passes on

Skybird · 01-18-08, 03:32 PM

I should have been more precise, the tournament he did in Yugoslavia actually was a rematch against his old rival Boris Spasski whose world champion title he had taken in the 70s - the great cold war duel, only the collision between Kortschnoi and Karpov came close to raise that much of international interest - but only close.

Fisher won that rematch again.

U49 · 01-18-08, 03:41 PM

and the story starts maybe here ?...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Fischer

ssshhhhht.. do not dististurb... I'm still reading

joea · 01-18-08, 03:56 PM

Very sad, a great man and legend of chess.

Skybird · 01-18-08, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by U49

and the story starts maybe here ?...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Fischer

ssshhhhht.. do not dististurb... I'm still reading

Look at that strange, almost childlike handwriting of him on the scorecard! :hmm:

XabbaRus · 01-19-08, 10:15 AM

Just reading about him on various sites about his life story, and though he might have ben a chess genius, when reading about the lists of demands he made for the competition with Karpov the phrase "spoiled brat" sprung to mind, which is my conclusion of what he is. Eccentricity is no excuse.

CCIP · 01-19-08, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Just reading about him on various sites about his life story, and though he might have ben a chess genius, when reading about the lists of demands he made for the competition with Karpov the phrase "spoiled brat" sprung to mind, which is my conclusion of what he is. Eccentricity is no excuse.

I think we can all agree that he certainly didn't have the greatest personality. I don't know about "spoiled brat", but between his unsportsmanlike behaviour and his downright paranoid and nasty attitude in later years - I think the least we can say is "antisocial"!

But again, I think what was going on in certain parts of his head was absolutely remarkable and worthy of recognition.

XabbaRus · 01-19-08, 11:33 AM

True but I was reading about the match he was supposed to play against Karpov and he wanted the rules changed so if he drew 9:9 he would retain his title but Karpov had to win 12:8 to gain the title. Seems he wanted it sorted in his favour so it was even harder for Karpov to win.

STEED · 01-19-08, 12:50 PM

He had an air of arrogance's about him, which was wasted in the world of chess. Off the chess scene, he made some very hurtful and insulting remarks which bought him trouble. America's only grandmaster to date who could had gone on in the world of chess without out his crass side that got the better of him.

01-18-08, 06:27 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,604 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	A genius dead German media just have reported in news-alert-style that according to Icelandic news sources former chess world champion and ingenius chess player Bobby Fisher has died at the age of 64. One of the greatest minds and most original players in his sports. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

01-18-08, 06:37 AM	#2
3Jane Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: York. Northern England. Posts: 1,004 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Sad loss. __________________ Fate opposes me in vitality and morality, forced ever onward, burdened, always in shackles. So this very moment, without tarrying, pluck the quivering strings. Because fate punishes the one who plays, all lament with me. (http://hosted.filefront.com/KatherineRowan)

01-18-08, 07:55 AM	#3
Kapitan_Phillips Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swansea Posts: 3,903 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	64 is no age What was the cause? __________________ Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into.

01-18-08, 08:13 AM	#4
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,604 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	He died in a hospital in rejkjavik, that's all so far. and 64 is a good age, imo. I hope I will leave while still being not ill, debile, or dependant. He lived on Icland and was given their citizenship to avoid him being extradited to the US that wanted him to bring to court for having refused to obey the political decision of boykotting Belgrade in the early 90s. He decided to ignore poltiics and instead focussing on sports, played a tournament there back then, and won, earning 3 million prize money. Since then, he was a hunted. Iceland accepted his request for asylum when he was arrested in Japan where he hid for years, trying to leave there with a no longer valid US passport. In his later, anonymous career he earned a reputation to be playxing on the internet without identifying himself, and stun people by his playing style which seemed to have violated all common sense and reason and violated all the golden rules of chess theory, and did not care for things to do and not to do, nevertheless put all the loose ends and the chaos to successful rearrangement and victory, which left most players and experts clueless how he did it. It is said and rumoured that he was driven by hoping to find a chess player that could match his abilities, and thus anonymously haunted the chess servers and played against people and watched matches without revealing his identity. It seems he did not find such a talent. Or brother in soul, if that was what he was looking for - who knows. An excentric, yes, but one who remained loyal to his principles and who was gifted a talent that many players even cannot value. Sometimes these stories remind me of what you have seen in "Rainman", Dustin Hoffman looking at the hundred firematches on the floor and within a split of a second and by just one glance immediately knowing how many there are - exactly. In this way i mean it when saying that Bobby Fisher maybe was not just "normal". His chess certainloy was not - especially after he withdrew from the public scene in the 70s. It seems to me it was a lonely man on a lonely quest, maybe thinking of himself to be the only one of his kind. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

01-18-08, 08:30 AM	#5
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	I only had one beef with the guy, why the hell he did not defend his crown. I don't buy his reasons, never the less he was a good player and a bit odd. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

01-18-08, 10:17 AM	#6
kiwi_2005 Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,382 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	So he got pawned then __________________ RIP kiwi_2005 Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.

01-18-08, 03:32 PM	#8
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,604 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I should have been more precise, the tournament he did in Yugoslavia actually was a rematch against his old rival Boris Spasski whose world champion title he had taken in the 70s - the great cold war duel, only the collision between Kortschnoi and Karpov came close to raise that much of international interest - but only close. Fisher won that rematch again. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

01-18-08, 03:41 PM	#9
U49 Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: D/Niedersachsen Posts: 777 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Fascinating ..... and the story starts maybe here ?... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Fischer ssshhhhht.. do not dististurb... I'm still reading __________________ SH3 battle capability upgrades: GWX2.0, JSGME2.0, SH3Commander 2.7, SH3Gen 0.8.2, TorpDamageMod 2.0, OLC GUI 1.1.5 Awaiting combat readiness for GWX2.0: SH4 effetcs for SH3, SH3Weather 1.5 Following development of: www.subwolves.com Realism: 90%

01-18-08, 03:56 PM	#10
joea Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: At periscope depth in Lake Geneva Posts: 3,512 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Very sad, a great man and legend of chess.

01-19-08, 10:15 AM	#12
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Just reading about him on various sites about his life story, and though he might have ben a chess genius, when reading about the lists of demands he made for the competition with Karpov the phrase "spoiled brat" sprung to mind, which is my conclusion of what he is. Eccentricity is no excuse. __________________

01-19-08, 11:33 AM	#14
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	True but I was reading about the match he was supposed to play against Karpov and he wanted the rules changed so if he drew 9:9 he would retain his title but Karpov had to win 12:8 to gain the title. Seems he wanted it sorted in his favour so it was even harder for Karpov to win. __________________

01-19-08, 12:50 PM	#15
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	He had an air of arrogance's about him, which was wasted in the world of chess. Off the chess scene, he made some very hurtful and insulting remarks which bought him trouble. America's only grandmaster to date who could had gone on in the world of chess without out his crass side that got the better of him. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!