Majority Of New PCs Ship Without Windows Vista, Gates (Unintentionally) Reveals

SUBMAN1 · 01-08-08, 12:09 PM

Hahahahaha!!! :rotfl:

http://www.informationweek.com/story...leID=205210375

-S

PS. If you don't want to read the article, new PC's account for 39% Vista, and over 60% XP still.

bookworm_020 · 01-08-08, 08:11 PM

Is anyone realy surprised????:hmm:

Sea Demon · 01-08-08, 08:19 PM

Well, I'll be buying a new machine next month. And I certainly am apprehensive about Vista. I'm hoping that I can purchase my new machine from Dell with the XP option still available. I haven't checked recently. If not, I may have to build my machine myself. Oh well, I enjoyed that last time I did it.

Sea Demon · 01-08-08, 08:58 PM

Well the website still shows XP availability for some of the machines only. Not everything can be purchased with the XP option by what's showing on the website. Perhaps if you ordered, you could convince them to sell anything with XP.

kiwi_2005 · 01-08-08, 10:00 PM

I dont find that all suprising either. Truth is i at times find Vista annoying luckily i got a dual install of xp and V, so i can just reboot to xp when i've had it with vista.

MS biggest mistake although there is software out there such as Vlite, is they should of put out a lite version dont know if Vista home edtion is the lite version?. Vista without the eye candy just the engine and plain old interface look and preinstalled on these OEM PCs with an option to upgrade to eye candy look with a type of service pk update so if they find vista to slow they can at least uninstall the pack - but problem is they're selling new PC's with Vista on and only 512 ram or 1gig which aint enough you need 2gigs or better to run vista well.

A newbie comes along buys a brand new PC with vista goes for the cheapest which usually comes with 512ram few weeks later hes in a straight jacket

Meanwihile Bill Gates sits at home counting his millions...

Etienne · 01-08-08, 11:42 PM

I've been shopping for a new gaming laptop lately (Yes, I realize it's not the best of plan. Try shipping out with a tower and monitor.), and from what I've seen, both Alienware and Dell have XP options (Which I'm going for), while HP only offers Vista, from what I've seen.

Out-of-the-box computers, from Best Buys, Futureshop and the like, seem to ship with Vista these days.

Everybody has the "XXX recommends Windows Vista" thing on the website, but... Not interested.

For anybody interested... I'm leaning toward Dell right now. Alienware doesn't seem to offer the biggest processors on laptops. The HP website pissed me off within seconds, for some reason.

01-09-08, 12:48 AM

Why I hate Gates: his company has spent most of its years creating clone programs of other people's software so that it could shove them out of the market, and then spent the next few years making that clone software into a piece of Junk. In the early 90s there was an inovative C++ program that allowed you to create complex programs with few errors and almost zero typing - sort of like a simple game editor (not something Micro Soft would want around as it would have made their own programmers meaningless). Gates came out with Visual Busted. Then he came out with Visual Busted 2 (indeed a better program). It shoved the other company into the dustbin and then saw to it that when Visual Busted 3 came out that it had lost its simple ease and power. By VB 6 it required about as much typing as an old C program.

Programming is no where near where it should have been by this time. But instead of making it so the average joe could turn out super programs, now its all made easy with India/China/human 1.2

Skybird · 01-09-08, 07:03 AM

Joke of the month, no doubt.

Etienne · 01-09-08, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Joke of the month, no doubt.

I'd say Vista qualifies for joke of the year. Seriously, when users are downgrading en masse... Something's extremely wrong.

SUBMAN1 · 01-09-08, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Wave Skipper

Why I hate Gates: his company has spent most of its years creating clone programs of other people's software so that it could shove them out of the market, and then spent the next few years making that clone software into a piece of Junk. In the early 90s there was an inovative C++ program that allowed you to create complex programs with few errors and almost zero typing - sort of like a simple game editor (not something Micro Soft would want around as it would have made their own programmers meaningless). Gates came out with Visual Busted. Then he came out with Visual Busted 2 (indeed a better program). It shoved the other company into the dustbin and then saw to it that when Visual Busted 3 came out that it had lost its simple ease and power. By VB 6 it required about as much typing as an old C program.

Programming is no where near where it should have been by this time. But instead of making it so the average joe could turn out super programs, now its all made easy with India/China/human 1.2

Just a little clue - Bill Gates quit Microsoft. He no longer works there.

-S

kiwi_2005 · 01-09-08, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Just a little clue - Bill Gates quit Microsoft. He no longer works there.

-S

True, but does he still get a piece of the cake:hmm:. I read not long ago after he left MS he and his wife are on a mission to help charities - he donated millions to one.

SUBMAN1 · 01-09-08, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Just a little clue - Bill Gates quit Microsoft. He no longer works there.

-S

True, but does he still get a piece of the cake:hmm:. I read not long ago after he left MS he and his wife are on a mission to help charities - he donated millions to one.

Actually, he is on a mission to give away his entire fortune. He quit MS to work full time on it. It is actually probably pretty hard to give away a Billion $$$, let alone 40 or 50 Billion.

-S

nikimcbee · 01-10-08, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Etienne

I've been shopping for a new gaming laptop lately (Yes, I realize it's not the best of plan. Try shipping out with a tower and monitor.), and from what I've seen, both Alienware and Dell have XP options (Which I'm going for), while HP only offers Vista, from what I've seen.

Out-of-the-box computers, from Best Buys, Futureshop and the like, seem to ship with Vista these days.

Everybody has the "XXX recommends Windows Vista" thing on the website, but... Not interested.

For anybody interested... I'm leaning toward Dell right now. Alienware doesn't seem to offer the biggest processors on laptops. The HP website pissed me off within seconds, for some reason.

I solved the problem after haggling with dell( for fun) why I couldn't get xp. So I solved the problem and built my own computer sans vista:rotfl:

I had some priceless conversations with dell techs in India...

Tchocky · 01-10-08, 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Etienne

The HP website pissed me off within seconds, for some reason.

Yeah, it drove me insane when I was buying my laptop.
I think CCIP recently bought a decent HP gaming laptop

kiwi_2005 · 01-10-08, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Just a little clue - Bill Gates quit Microsoft. He no longer works there.

-S

True, but does he still get a piece of the cake:hmm:. I read not long ago after he left MS he and his wife are on a mission to help charities - he donated millions to one.

Actually, he is on a mission to give away his entire fortune. He quit MS to work full time on it. It is actually probably pretty hard to give away a Billion $$$, let alone 40 or 50 Billion.

-S

Hell, good on him for that

01-08-08, 12:09 PM	#1
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Majority Of New PCs Ship Without Windows Vista, Gates (Unintentionally) Reveals Hahahahaha!!! :rotfl: http://www.informationweek.com/story...leID=205210375 -S PS. If you don't want to read the article, new PC's account for 39% Vista, and over 60% XP still. __________________ Last edited by SUBMAN1; 01-08-08 at 12:22 PM.

01-08-08, 08:11 PM	#2
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Is anyone realy surprised????:hmm: __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

01-08-08, 10:00 PM	#5
kiwi_2005 Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,382 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	I dont find that all suprising either. Truth is i at times find Vista annoying luckily i got a dual install of xp and V, so i can just reboot to xp when i've had it with vista. MS biggest mistake although there is software out there such as Vlite, is they should of put out a lite version dont know if Vista home edtion is the lite version?. Vista without the eye candy just the engine and plain old interface look and preinstalled on these OEM PCs with an option to upgrade to eye candy look with a type of service pk update so if they find vista to slow they can at least uninstall the pack - but problem is they're selling new PC's with Vista on and only 512 ram or 1gig which aint enough you need 2gigs or better to run vista well. A newbie comes along buys a brand new PC with vista goes for the cheapest which usually comes with 512ram few weeks later hes in a straight jacket Meanwihile Bill Gates sits at home counting his millions... __________________ RIP kiwi_2005 Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.

01-09-08, 12:48 AM	#7
Wave Skipper Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Hahahahaha!!! I have to second that:Hahahahaha!!! Why I hate Gates: his company has spent most of its years creating clone programs of other people's software so that it could shove them out of the market, and then spent the next few years making that clone software into a piece of Junk. In the early 90s there was an inovative C++ program that allowed you to create complex programs with few errors and almost zero typing - sort of like a simple game editor (not something Micro Soft would want around as it would have made their own programmers meaningless). Gates came out with Visual Busted. Then he came out with Visual Busted 2 (indeed a better program). It shoved the other company into the dustbin and then saw to it that when Visual Busted 3 came out that it had lost its simple ease and power. By VB 6 it required about as much typing as an old C program. Programming is no where near where it should have been by this time. But instead of making it so the average joe could turn out super programs, now its all made easy with India/China/human 1.2

01-09-08, 07:03 AM	#8
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,611 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Joke of the month, no doubt. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

01-08-08, 08:19 PM	#3
Sea Demon Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: USA Posts: 2,552 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	Well, I'll be buying a new machine next month. And I certainly am apprehensive about Vista. I'm hoping that I can purchase my new machine from Dell with the XP option still available. I haven't checked recently. If not, I may have to build my machine myself. Oh well, I enjoyed that last time I did it.

01-08-08, 08:58 PM	#4
Sea Demon Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: USA Posts: 2,552 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	Well the website still shows XP availability for some of the machines only. Not everything can be purchased with the XP option by what's showing on the website. Perhaps if you ordered, you could convince them to sell anything with XP.

01-08-08, 11:42 PM	#6
Etienne Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 695 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I've been shopping for a new gaming laptop lately (Yes, I realize it's not the best of plan. Try shipping out with a tower and monitor.), and from what I've seen, both Alienware and Dell have XP options (Which I'm going for), while HP only offers Vista, from what I've seen. Out-of-the-box computers, from Best Buys, Futureshop and the like, seem to ship with Vista these days. Everybody has the "XXX recommends Windows Vista" thing on the website, but... Not interested. For anybody interested... I'm leaning toward Dell right now. Alienware doesn't seem to offer the biggest processors on laptops. The HP website pissed me off within seconds, for some reason.