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My 6th patrol was a storm from start to finish. 15mps wind and I almost got seasick myself watching it go up and down like that. Worst weather I have seen yet in SH.
The sonarman picked up some engine-noises while being 10m deep in between the waves (I didn't have to put myself to periscope depth). And when I started following them, at full flank speed, I had a hard time catching up. IID max speed is 13knots, but obviously not during these rough seas. I made an unsteady 10knots, dropping to 6 in huge waves. Are other ships affected like this in the same manner? I did catch up on a passenger-ship, having 1 torp left. Being 800m away, I fired it. After 400 metres it exploded?! ![]() |
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Yes other ships are affected by bad weather
Have come across many ships struggling at low speed in rough seas Rough seas will also affect torpedo stability on mag setting I only use impact settings in high winds\seas |
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Ok I will make that a general rule of thumb then. Torpedoes on impact when in bad weather.
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And what really bites is when you damage a ship with that last eel. With the weather foul against you, no opportunity to use the deck gun to finish 'em off. Sometime later, she sinks, and even though still close by (within hydrophone range at least), you get NO CREDIT! Why, because the omnipotent AI has deemed that the weather did 'em in, not your torpedo blasting a bus sized hole in her hull.
![]() ![]() ![]() I even trailed a group of three small coasties, running in line ahead off the New Jersey coast once in horrendous winter weather. Before I could overtake them and get into position, all 3 sank from the storm - their sad little wreck markings on the chart mocking me for the precious fuel I wasted trying to run them down.
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I've hit ships which subsequently sank in rough seas owing to getting swamped, where in good weather I suspect they might have been okay, or at least it certainly looked that way to me. Mind you, I am talking seriously bad weather where I was having difficulty maintaining contact by anything other than hydrophones and the external view. Which is why I had to watch them sail along, as there was no way I was even going to attempt a torpedo launch in that weather; the depth-keeping of the torpedoes would have been way off. And of course, no one in their right mind would have gone on deck to try and work the pop gun!
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![]() ![]() ![]() If you use the external camera and watch some ships in really nasty weather, you will actually see them taking damage. Some will start to list sometimes, or get low by the bow or stern, or slow down to a crawl. Even, fires will break out on their own! Of course, then you'll also see some little coastie, or a narrow beamed small warship, plowing along beam-on to monstrous waves, and think, what the... Since any ship not taking such waves bow on would surely be in BIG trouble. There's a show on the Discovery channel here, "Deadliest Catch" that's been running for a fair number of years now. It follows the Alaskan crab fisheries in the Bering Sea. The various crab species are fished in the late fall, winter and early spring months, so the weather is, predicably, often unbelievably bad. Watching 90ft to 150ft ships, in seas that may reach 40ft (or one rogue wave caught on tape that had to be 60ft or more - rolled one of the ships clean onto her side, busted the captains ribs, shut off the engines when they lost oil pressure - she righted herself though and they got back without aid). Anyhow, it makes you appreciate how important a skilled helmsman is in heavy seas, and how much the sea can dictate what direction you WILL be steaming in for awhile. That aspect of sea conditons and navigation is not modeled in SHIII or SHIV. I was once in the NE Pacific in a 210ft ship in 35-40ft seas - I cannot imagine hanging out in a storm on a u-boat conning tower - that must almost qualify as insane by some standards I'd suppose. P.S. google for a web site with the key words "Heavy Seas" - amazing images! examples: ![]() ![]()
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Many a time in the typically rough weather off of the north Irish coast, I've picked up a hydrophone contact, mapped out my intercept point, and then sat there and waited, and waited, and waited, and the ship just never seems to get any closer. When I used to use the external camera, it would turn out to be some poor tramp steamer, nose buried in the high seas, prop spinning in the air, making a whopping quarter knot. She would be slowly sinking nose first.
I've restarted my career again (I still maintain that 1944 never arrives, because I've yet to see it) and this trip out, I was following my escort north out of Wilhelmshaven. The escort then turned east, beached itself on the bank and burned. Must have been pretty embarassing for him. |
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Reading this id like to ask another question:
Do the rough seas slow down the torpedos? It looks to me that way. On numerous occasions i witnessed (even at the distance less than 1.5 km) that torpedos do not hit the ship in the intended point. Sometimes when the seas are realy rough , they miss altogether. Should i try deflection shot? |
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I'm in early 1943. I love rough weather. Rough weather is my friend. Good weather is bad. Good weather has this things that fly and drop nasty stuff at my sub.
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I think it is more that rough sea affect the calculated speed of your target.
I usually aim (manual targeting) to much in front of my target, when we are in heavy seas
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Seen small patrolboats go down under due to obvious reason, but since it's always happens during big storms....well....:hmm:
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I encountered this escort, going down in a heavy sea without any intervention from me. It wouldn't sink, it's stern end rising from where it is in this picture to near vertical. But it kept firing.
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