Help with a radio message

Tango589 · 01-04-08, 08:53 AM

Hi guys

I am on my first patrol round the Lerwick sub base at AN21 and got a message through saying that the S.S. Bosnia was at coordinates SSS 45.29 N 09.45 W.

How do I navigate using coordinates to find the ship?

Cheers.

danurve · 01-04-08, 09:00 AM

While historicaly accurate the bulk of radio messages are for emmersion, you may or may not find anything the game files decide to place in the message coordinates. Also SSS is a distress signal. Usually indicates a ship being attacked or sinking.

Abd_von_Mumit · 01-04-08, 09:03 AM

As far as I know this message is only an eye-candy addition, it doesn't give you any real ship coordinates. I'm almost sure of that. Even if the coordinates (and the ship) were real it's quite tricky to calculate the coordinates given only the Kriegsmarine grid map. So… let the ship go her way.

Tango589 · 01-04-08, 09:27 AM

Fair enough, cheers for the info.

Ula Jolly · 01-04-08, 01:06 PM

There is nothing tricky in the least.

If you use the map that came with the DVD case, you may find that 45.29N 09.45W is right around BF7911. If you then use this converter, which yields the coordinates 43°45'00"N 09°02'00"W - that is off the bay of Biscay. In this picture, the red lines are full minutes - the white lines are seconds, to find that BF7556 in truth the closest approximation. Actually I was kind of sloppy with those pixels, so upon retrying, I made a more detailed attempt.

Okay, I lied. It's tricky. But not VERY tricky. Your map has everything you need - the converter is just for convenience. I found this map for my second attempt. It was confusing, and the converter says that BF7227 - at 45°21'00"N 09°50'00"W - is as good as it can get. No maps agree very much to this, so it seems the converter is seriously off. BUT, I am about to reach a conclusion... actually I'm not, I've sat with maps now for an hour, coming to no better conclusion that I've already hinted towards. Map projection is something of a problem. God, I'm gonna quit this crap right now.

This website has some astonishing maps, I'd use these.

According to this, the S.S. Bosnia is in peril... somewhere along the line that runs south from 7288 to 7822 - or 7522 to 7588 to be a little more specific. If I were you, I'd just trail this particular patch of sea north-south or south-north, with occasional dives, hoping she is not already finished off.

What date is this, by the way?

Tango589 · 01-05-08, 08:47 AM

I didn't get a map with the dvd, all I got was the disk in the box with installation instructions on the back of the cover sleeve. The imanuals etc. are files on the disc. Still, what did I expect for £5.99? Cheers for the link to the conversion chart, this should be useful.:hmm:

HW3 · 01-05-08, 09:04 AM

If you put the coordinates from the message you received into the converter posted above by Ula Jolly, it comes back with grid square BF7225. Now the message you received is a actual message from WW II that has been included in a mod for immersion purposes. There may or may not actually be a ship there, most likely not.

Jimbuna · 01-05-08, 12:25 PM

You will find on occasion that you receive a radio message from BDu or another U-boat that just so happens to be your U-boat......DO NOT BE FOOLED BY THE DARK SIDE

01-04-08, 08:53 AM	#1
Tango589 Still crazy as ever! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: A little south of sanity Posts: 3,375 Downloads: 180 Uploads: 1	Help with a radio message Hi guys I am on my first patrol round the Lerwick sub base at AN21 and got a message through saying that the S.S. Bosnia was at coordinates SSS 45.29 N 09.45 W. How do I navigate using coordinates to find the ship? Cheers. __________________ Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way...

01-04-08, 09:00 AM	#2
danurve The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 1,481 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 3	While historicaly accurate the bulk of radio messages are for emmersion, you may or may not find anything the game files decide to place in the message coordinates. Also SSS is a distress signal. Usually indicates a ship being attacked or sinking. __________________

01-04-08, 09:03 AM	#3
Abd_von_Mumit The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Warszawa, Polska Posts: 1,453 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 4	As far as I know this message is only an eye-candy addition, it doesn't give you any real ship coordinates. I'm almost sure of that. Even if the coordinates (and the ship) were real it's quite tricky to calculate the coordinates given only the Kriegsmarine grid map. So… let the ship go her way. __________________ Long, hard, wet and full of seamen. My precious. SH3+GWX+OLC — sunk x4, retired x2; SH5+TDW — still exploring My SH5 mods: EQuaTool - Elite Quality Map Tools, Patrol Routine Scripts, No Logo Intro Menu_Animation, Less Annoying Stopwatch Links: SH5 mods I use, FileFront, Manual plotting how-to

01-04-08, 09:27 AM	#4
Tango589 Still crazy as ever! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: A little south of sanity Posts: 3,375 Downloads: 180 Uploads: 1	Fair enough, cheers for the info. __________________ Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way...

01-04-08, 01:06 PM	#5
Ula Jolly Samurai Navy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 567 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	There is nothing tricky in the least. If you use the map that came with the DVD case, you may find that 45.29N 09.45W is right around BF7911. If you then use this converter, which yields the coordinates 43°45'00"N 09°02'00"W - that is off the bay of Biscay. In this picture, the red lines are full minutes - the white lines are seconds, to find that BF7556 in truth the closest approximation. Actually I was kind of sloppy with those pixels, so upon retrying, I made a more detailed attempt. Okay, I lied. It's tricky. But not VERY tricky. Your map has everything you need - the converter is just for convenience. I found this map for my second attempt. It was confusing, and the converter says that BF7227 - at 45°21'00"N 09°50'00"W - is as good as it can get. No maps agree very much to this, so it seems the converter is seriously off. BUT, I am about to reach a conclusion... actually I'm not, I've sat with maps now for an hour, coming to no better conclusion that I've already hinted towards. Map projection is something of a problem. God, I'm gonna quit this crap right now. This website has some astonishing maps, I'd use these. According to this, the S.S. Bosnia is in peril... somewhere along the line that runs south from 7288 to 7822 - or 7522 to 7588 to be a little more specific. If I were you, I'd just trail this particular patch of sea north-south or south-north, with occasional dives, hoping she is not already finished off. What date is this, by the way? __________________ I shall punish yee, landlubber! C'mere for spankings and popsicles!

01-05-08, 08:47 AM	#6
Tango589 Still crazy as ever! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: A little south of sanity Posts: 3,375 Downloads: 180 Uploads: 1	I didn't get a map with the dvd, all I got was the disk in the box with installation instructions on the back of the cover sleeve. The imanuals etc. are files on the disc. Still, what did I expect for £5.99? Cheers for the link to the conversion chart, this should be useful.:hmm: __________________ Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way...

01-05-08, 09:04 AM	#7
HW3 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gresham Oregon Posts: 6,574 Downloads: 458 Uploads: 0	If you put the coordinates from the message you received into the converter posted above by Ula Jolly, it comes back with grid square BF7225. Now the message you received is a actual message from WW II that has been included in a mod for immersion purposes. There may or may not actually be a ship there, most likely not. __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink...others require our assistance." Nathan Zelk

01-05-08, 12:25 PM	#8
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	You will find on occasion that you receive a radio message from BDu or another U-boat that just so happens to be your U-boat......DO NOT BE FOOLED BY THE DARK SIDE __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!