AA-guns on deck-gun.....

Bulkhead · 12-10-07, 01:51 AM

I have the SH4 gold edition witch contained a recognition manual. In the back pages of this book it looks like some of the subs have 3 AA-guns fittings and only one deck-gun, with one of the AA-guns on the deck in front of the conning tower.
Is this just for teasing or is it possible?

Propy · 12-10-07, 05:39 AM

Good question, I dont think thats possible. I too have seen that and I have seen a pic where the sub had two deckguns! I would rather have that working...

Its strange that they take these pictures, ingame, and then its not possible to play like that...

Bulkhead · 12-10-07, 06:38 AM

Well, two deck-guns is working. What i would like is to replace one of the deck-guns with a AA-gun and have 3 AA-gund. The aft and front in the conning tower and the one in front of the C-tower down at the deck.

Propy · 12-10-07, 06:46 AM

Oh...its working? how did you manage that? Sorry I know that it was you that asked a question...but I really would like to know...

Bulkhead · 12-10-07, 06:51 AM

You just have to wait till the year turns to 1945...

Propy · 12-10-07, 07:31 AM

aha! Thanks a lot! Are you sure its not the same for you with the AA guns?

Bulkhead · 12-10-07, 07:33 AM

I dont know, i cant seem too place any AA-guns down on the deck at all....

Propy · 12-10-07, 08:02 AM

I tried to find any facts about how many AA-guns real subs had, became intrested myself. Couldnt find anything about 3 AA-guns...but all the pics and facts I found shows two at most. I dont think they used more than that...not during WWII anyway.

Bulkhead · 12-10-07, 09:57 AM

Wierd... Looking at the 1944 edition of the gato and it have two 1-man AA-guns, one 40mm flak-gun at the aft part of the C-twr and a deck-gun at the aft deck.
And the 1943 edition of the Sargo class, a deck-gun at the fore deck two 20mm AA-guns at the fore and aft C-twr and a 20mm at aft deck.
Is it just for show in the book?

manucapo · 12-10-07, 10:08 AM

german U-boats as far as i know
by late war
carried 3 flack guns
and sometimes a big vierling flak gun where the aft deck gun in us boats would be.

so it did happen in ww2 atleast for the germans

Bulkhead · 12-10-07, 11:59 AM

Yes, the typeIX flak-gun. I`ve seen it on some videoclips for SH3.
But i want it on SH4 too....Well, probobly not happening anyway.
But just a little change of course. What AA-guns is working best? The 40mm flak or the 20mm machinegun?

Fincuan · 12-10-07, 12:37 PM

You could probably produce any kind of mix of guns via editing the ActiveUserPlayerUnits.upc of the correct savegame in My Documents/SH4. If you wanted the changes to occur as a part of the current upgrade system, then you'd have to edit files in SH4/Data/UPCUnitsData.

Bulkhead · 12-10-07, 06:24 PM

Thanks for the tip

12-10-07, 01:51 AM	#1
Bulkhead 中国水兵 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Norway, Hordaland Posts: 279 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 0	AA-guns on deck-gun..... I have the SH4 gold edition witch contained a recognition manual. In the back pages of this book it looks like some of the subs have 3 AA-guns fittings and only one deck-gun, with one of the AA-guns on the deck in front of the conning tower. Is this just for teasing or is it possible? __________________ KHJ

12-10-07, 05:39 AM	#2
Propy Seaman Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 42 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Good question, I dont think thats possible. I too have seen that and I have seen a pic where the sub had two deckguns! I would rather have that working... Its strange that they take these pictures, ingame, and then its not possible to play like that... __________________ - Chelnak! ---- U3 - Swedish submarine from 1939 (stricken 1965) http://www.malmo.se/kulturbibliotek/...800076850.html

12-10-07, 06:38 AM	#3
Bulkhead 中国水兵 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Norway, Hordaland Posts: 279 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 0	Well, two deck-guns is working. What i would like is to replace one of the deck-guns with a AA-gun and have 3 AA-gund. The aft and front in the conning tower and the one in front of the C-tower down at the deck. __________________ KHJ

12-10-07, 06:46 AM	#4
Propy Seaman Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 42 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Oh...its working? how did you manage that? Sorry I know that it was you that asked a question...but I really would like to know... __________________ - Chelnak! ---- U3 - Swedish submarine from 1939 (stricken 1965) http://www.malmo.se/kulturbibliotek/...800076850.html

12-10-07, 06:51 AM	#5
Bulkhead 中国水兵 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Norway, Hordaland Posts: 279 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 0	You just have to wait till the year turns to 1945... __________________ KHJ

12-10-07, 07:31 AM	#6
Propy Seaman Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 42 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	aha! Thanks a lot! Are you sure its not the same for you with the AA guns? __________________ - Chelnak! ---- U3 - Swedish submarine from 1939 (stricken 1965) http://www.malmo.se/kulturbibliotek/...800076850.html

12-10-07, 07:33 AM	#7
Bulkhead 中国水兵 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Norway, Hordaland Posts: 279 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 0	I dont know, i cant seem too place any AA-guns down on the deck at all.... __________________ KHJ

12-10-07, 08:02 AM	#8
Propy Seaman Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 42 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I tried to find any facts about how many AA-guns real subs had, became intrested myself. Couldnt find anything about 3 AA-guns...but all the pics and facts I found shows two at most. I dont think they used more than that...not during WWII anyway. __________________ - Chelnak! ---- U3 - Swedish submarine from 1939 (stricken 1965) http://www.malmo.se/kulturbibliotek/...800076850.html

12-10-07, 09:57 AM	#9
Bulkhead 中国水兵 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Norway, Hordaland Posts: 279 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 0	Wierd... Looking at the 1944 edition of the gato and it have two 1-man AA-guns, one 40mm flak-gun at the aft part of the C-twr and a deck-gun at the aft deck. And the 1943 edition of the Sargo class, a deck-gun at the fore deck two 20mm AA-guns at the fore and aft C-twr and a 20mm at aft deck. Is it just for show in the book? __________________ KHJ

12-10-07, 10:08 AM	#10
manucapo Gunner Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 100 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	german U-boats as far as i know by late war carried 3 flack guns and sometimes a big vierling flak gun where the aft deck gun in us boats would be. so it did happen in ww2 atleast for the germans

12-10-07, 11:59 AM	#11
Bulkhead 中国水兵 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Norway, Hordaland Posts: 279 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 0	Yes, the typeIX flak-gun. I`ve seen it on some videoclips for SH3. But i want it on SH4 too....Well, probobly not happening anyway. But just a little change of course. What AA-guns is working best? The 40mm flak or the 20mm machinegun? __________________ KHJ

12-10-07, 12:37 PM	#12
Fincuan Admiral Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Suomi, sauna, puukko, perkele Posts: 2,346 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	You could probably produce any kind of mix of guns via editing the ActiveUserPlayerUnits.upc of the correct savegame in My Documents/SH4. If you wanted the changes to occur as a part of the current upgrade system, then you'd have to edit files in SH4/Data/UPCUnitsData.

12-10-07, 06:24 PM	#13
Bulkhead 中国水兵 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Norway, Hordaland Posts: 279 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the tip __________________ KHJ