Strange problem

[clayp]

My game 1.3 with TM 1.6,GFX and TM1.6 patch plays for about 30 minutes and then the screen goes all green and I can hear the game running but all I can see is a green screen.Its not heat the room is air conditioned and I have no problems with any other games..Any ideas?

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[MONOLITH]

The room being air conditioned doesn't necessarily mean the VPU isn't overheating.

I keep my house like the arctic and my X1950 still pushes the celcius boundaries.


It certainly could be something else, but repeated time delayed image failure is usually overheating of the VPU, imo.

[clayp]

Originally Posted by MONOLITH

The room being air conditioned doesn't necessarily mean the VPU isn't overheating.

I keep my house like the arctic and my X1950 still pushes the celcius boundaries.


It certainly could be something else, but repeated time delayed image failure is usually overheating of the VPU, imo.

If so why does it only do it with SH4?

[MONOLITH]

Well, the only answer to that would be that SH4, with GFX enhancements and your settings, is more demanding than the other games you are playing, whatever they are.

I will say that if SH4 is the only game doing this, that does lower the odds of overheating; but the symptoms, especially the time delay, are still symptoms of overheating.

Usuallly though, you will not suddenly just go black/green. As the card starts to heat, you will get artifacting and other strange glitches on the screen before it finally goes out.

Not sure what to say, just offering the only idea I could think of. Try putting in another game that you're certain is as graphically demanding. Crank all the settings ingame, and in your driver, to max, and let it run for 1/2 an hour, and see if it does it then too.

[SteamWake]

It doesent really sound to me like a heat issue more like a driver issue but Im sure ClayP keeps his video drivers up to date.

You dident mention the age of the machine but you might want to knock open the case and check the heat sinks for the cpu and gpu to make sure they arent plugged with dust. If they are vacum them clean. Oh yea make sure all the fans are spinning like they should as well.

Also you might want to try re-seating that video card see if you dont have a flakey connection.

Yes SH4 is very demanding on the video card even more so than some contemporary games supprisingly. I guessing it has something to do with rendering the water.

[clayp]

Originally Posted by MONOLITH

Well, the only answer to that would be that SH4, with GFX enhancements and your settings, is more demanding than the other games you are playing, whatever they are.

I will say that if SH4 is the only game doing this, that does lower the odds of overheating; but the symptoms, especially the time delay, are still symptoms of overheating.

Usuallly though, you will not suddenly just go black/green. As the card starts to heat, you will get artifacting and other strange glitches on the screen before it finally goes out.

Not sure what to say, just offering the only idea I could think of. Try putting in another game that you're certain is as graphically demanding. Crank all the settings ingame, and in your driver, to max, and let it run for 1/2 an hour, and see if it does it then too.

I belive that il2FB's and WWIIOnline are as demanding and I can play them all day..And you are correct there is no artifacting just is fine one second and then green...


It doesent really sound to me like a heat issue more like a driver issue but Im sure ClayP keeps his video drivers up to date.

You dident mention the age of the machine but you might want to knock open the case and check the heat sinks for the cpu and gpu to make sure they arent plugged with dust. If they are vacum them clean. Oh yea make sure all the fans are spinning like they should as well.

Also you might want to try re-seating that video card see if you dont have a flakey connection.

Yes SH4 is very demanding on the video card even more so than some contemporary games supprisingly. I guessing it has something to do with rendering the water.

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Steamwake the case is one of the best CoolerMaster makes there are six huge cooling fans and one exhust.The side is a mesh grill and has 2 12" fans blowing in and another 12 incher blowing in the front and the room is kept at 60 degrees.The whole system is less then six months old....

[SteamWake]

Here lemme clean this up a little no need to splatter my profile in the open forums No one cares :p

Originally Posted by clayp

I belive that il2FB's and WWIIOnline are as demanding ....

Nope sorry not even close I can run IL2 at 'perfect' resolution without a hiccup. My ATI 1800 barely even spools up its cooling fan after hours of play.

SH4 I have to turn down some settings and still get the occasional stutter. And the cooling fan often spools up.

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Also you might want to try re-seating that video card see if you dont have a flakey connection.....

I know that sounds silly but give it a try.

Originally Posted by clayp

Steamwake the case is one of the best CoolerMaster makes there are six huge cooling fans and one exhust.The side is a mesh grill and has 2 12" fans blowing in and another 12 incher blowing in the front and the room is kept at 60 degrees.The whole system is less then six months old....

Well I did say it dident really sound like a heat issue. Still even if your machine is brand spanking new check for driver updates.

[clayp]

Does anyone have a system close to mine? I cant figure out what the heck is going on.I wonder if I just have the settings too high? I have everything maxed out in the Nvidia control panel..If I cant figure it out I will have to stop playing the game....

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NVIDIA GeForce 8800 Ultra BFGE88768UE
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[leovampire]

Originally Posted by clayp

Does anyone have a system close to mine? I cant figure out what the heck is going on.I wonder if I just have the settings too high? I have everything maxed out in the Nvidia control panel..If I cant figure it out I will have to stop playing the game....

Core 2 Duo X6800 @3.24
Asus Motherboard P5BDELUXEWIFI
OCZ 2Gig 15-5-5-5 memory kit DDR2 OCZ2N1066SR2GK 2 x 2 gig kits
(4 gigs total)
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 Ultra BFGE88768UE
Western Digital 160gig sata II 16mb
Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer SB0730VP
Cooler master CM Stacker 830 Silver
OCZ Gamer extreme PS 1010wat OCZ1010GXSSLI
Samsung Optical (DVD/CDRW)
Windows XP Pro 32bit SP2

I found out that the fan stoped running on one of my video card's and was over heating big time. I ended up having to get Nvidia to send me a new video card ASAP especialy since they were brand new.

Check and see if there is a lot of dust build up on the card and vacume it off if there is. Of course with the PC off and unpluged and use a soft brush on the vacume or use one of those AIR cans to blow it off.

[MONOLITH]

Originally Posted by clayp

Does anyone have a system close to mine? I cant figure out what the heck is going on.I wonder if I just have the settings too high? I have everything maxed out in the Nvidia control panel..If I cant figure it out I will have to stop playing the game....

Not to state the obvious, but.... Then turn everything to minimum, and see if it still happens.

[clayp]

Originally Posted by leovampire

I found out that the fan stoped running on one of my video card's and was over heating big time. I ended up having to get Nvidia to send me a new video card ASAP especialy since they were brand new.

Check and see if there is a lot of dust build up on the card and vacume it off if there is. Of course with the PC off and unpluged and use a soft brush on the vacume or use one of those AIR cans to blow it off.

Leo I cant belive its anything like that the system is too new..And if it was that wouldnt it do it in all games etc?

[leovampire]

Originally Posted by clayp

Leo I cant belive its anything like that the system is too new..And if it was that wouldnt it do it in all games etc?

My video card's were a day old when the cooling fan stoped running on one of them to answer the how old question.

Second we are trying to offer you sugestions and solutions seeing you did ask the comunity for possable advice and or help.

Third did you try to take Monolith's advice and see if it made a diference?

Forth did you see about the drivers yet others mentioned?

[clayp]

Originally Posted by leovampire

My video card's were a day old when the cooling fan stoped running on one of them to answer the how old question.

Second we are trying to offer you sugestions and solutions seeing you did ask the comunity for possable advice and or help.

Third did you try to take Monolith's advice and see if it made a diference?

Forth did you see about the drivers yet others mentioned?

I have tried most of the suggestions,I dont have another game to try..I just have il2,COD2,WWIIOL and SH4..I'll look at the card Monday,its REALLY hard for me to get down on the floor and mess with it....I have the one older driver on the card,didnt like the newest one...I still cant belive there is something wrong with the card and it dosent show up in any other game...

[seaniam81]

Is the software overclocking the card. My ati card can be overclocked using software, once while trying it out I triped the safty and it throttled back the card something similar happend to me that is happening to you.

So check the software make sure your not overclocking the card or make sure your not tripping the safty and making your card throttle down

[jdkbph]

Originally Posted by clayp

I have tried most of the suggestions <snip>

Well, let me throw one more at you. Open the case, point a common house fan right at the guts - full blast - and play the game. If the problem does not recur, it's prolly a heat issue. Note that just opening the case will not suffice. Use the fan, Clay.

Now if the problem does recur with the case open and the fan blasting, my next guess would be your video card... may be defective.

That said, my third guess - your power supply - may be easier to troubleshoot. Unless you have access to a spare video card exactly like the one you're using now, swapping it out will also mean a driver change (or reconfiguration) and a host of other variables that will make it difficult to tell what's changed and what caused it. Swapping out the power supply, on the other hand, is straight forward. All you need to watch out for is that it's big enough.

Keep in mind that you do not have to completely rip yours out and install another one. Just unplug the power to your main board and the video card itself (if applicable) and plug in the new (test) unit along side the existing (you'll need them both on). If the problem goes away, then you can start ripping things apart.



JD